Marvel Puzzle Quest: Character Rebalances - Batch #1

@GrimSkald said:

@Seph1roth5 said:

@WhiteBomber said:
Everyone already knows who the next people are to be nerfed. They said it before, they also said there shouldn't be any surprise characters (and there aren't, yet).

Here is you list of next to be nerfed (in no specific order):

1. MThor
2. IronMay
3. Maybe ShangChi

If they're smart, they'll add Sam5 to that list also (it's not Juggernauts fault).

I refuse to believe people don't see how far out of balance any these characters are. So, I will just assume everyone is more just frustrated about their investments, which is valid, they never should have let them go this long unchecked, and they have a rough history with balancing.

I think a lot of people agree that SC is very strong, but not very worrisome. The computer uses his powers stupidly, so he's usually not great on defense. I used to use him all the time when I was new to scl10, but since then...very rarely. If they have numbers that he's being used a lot it's more people with crummier rosters lol, or new people that have been told (rightly) by everyone to make him their first 5* champ.

Also, I think juggs is definitely the bigger problem in the juggs/sam combo. Yeah omega and others can do aoe damage reliably, but juggs can do it multiple times a turn. And he's so damn beefy you kind of have to take down Sam first and hope it's not too late. With other teams, you can take out the aoe person (or OR's CD) first.

I disagree - Juggs without Sam isn't great. Sure you can use another damage booster like Okoye, Apocalpyse, or 5SWitch but all of those are pretty slow and in their own ways fairly limited. While Sam isn't OP otherwise, the fact that Juggs generates an AoE on every match makes Sam's power ludicrously overpowered, particularly when cascades are a thing that happens. If they limited Sam to triggering once per turn, or even once per move/cascade, I think it would be fine.

This guy gets it. Juggs is nothing but a match damage meat shield without Sam or IronMay. Get rid of them, he is no longer top tier.

Have to say I absolutely agree with this. I suspect 90% or more of the characters in this game rarely see play once players have a decently fleshed out roster.
These nerfs, and hopefully adding more team slots, would go a long way to helping people quickly mix up their play styles.
Even if they nerf M’baku, (which I’d be sad about, having heavily invested in him) there are plenty of other viable teams out there for achieving full SCL10 PvE progression, they just might not be as fast

@entrailbucket said:

It's insane. Could you imagine acting like this in real life? Just go eat at a different Applebee's, man, it ain't that deep.

How dare you, sir! I haven't set foot in a Crapplebee's in 10+ years!

I can see the new nerf list for wave 2 now :
1. Moonstone2
2. Hawkeye1

I doubt they'll actually nerf Hawk though.

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:
Played about 20 matches with buff Hawk and I'm not sure his infinite can stop? Definitely easier than Moonstone4's and completely self contained. Some interesting decisions being made over there.

I put him with the new Sunguy for fun:
https://youtube.com/shorts/iQg1C9xCr3Q?si=8vA44jhEbcrYgSXr

I got these traps maaaan.

I wonder if Hawkeye is "allowed" to go infinite like that because he doesn't have any damage acceleration on his own? I haven't messed around with him, but I imagine without some kind of help he's too slow for us competitive players.

Dunno. They do make weird decisions.

Can only guess why they would "allow" it. You do need to be somewhat smart about placement as it's not guaranteed and it can take a bit of time...

He works well with coulson and hobgoblin to speed up the winfinite*

1) No, Coulson doesn't need 1 Hawkeye for winfinite.

*2) Hawkeye doesn't need Coulson either.

*3) But together they speed things up.

I used this team in simulator and easily beat Nova/ihulk, ascended MBaku/Namor, and a list of others. (Actually saw a lot of Polaris teams... Must be being tested)

Anyway with Corvus Glaive and quantum realm supports (and/or AP boosts) starting with 5 purple wasn't difficult. I occasionally needed to survive one round but that was only a concern when facing Nova/ihulk/chasm (I'll get to that at the end)

Fire off arrows with Hawkeye, activate CDs with Hobgoblin, watch the board cascade into oblivion, fire more arrows if needed. It was fairly fast without being instant and mindless.

Back to Nova/ihulk/Chasm...I faced that team because I was facing whatever came up to test my team. I started stunned, enemy Nova went airborne, I ate that damage... Then it was my turn and Chasm was the first to go down, followed by IHulk.... He kept coming back of course, until he didn't.

He went down a few times, then I cleared the team ups with Hobgoblin blue... Hulk went down a few times during the cascades then just stayed down.

Cleared the board of charged tikes with Hawkeye red then waited for Nova to land and fired off purple until she went down. It took longer for me to write this than play it.

Anyway... Not likely a new meta but feels like a solid option.

@concillado said:
I haven’t read all comments, so sry if I am repeating someone else:

SamJugg is STILL dominating Lightning rounds where supports are off limits.

There has been no nerfs to either of those characters

@entrailbucket said:
MPQ isn't a contractor, it's a restaurant (god help me, it's another metaphor).

Yeah, you used to love it, but they fired the chef and changed the menu and now you hate all the food there. Instead of just going to a different restaurant, like a sane person would do, you keep eating food you hate, hoping something will magically change and it'll go back to the way it was.

Oh, and now they're going out of business because nobody pays for the food anymore, but you still won't stop going there and loudly screaming suggestions that they completely ignore. If they'd just make all the changes you want, they could stay in business! You'd start paying again! They could be successful! You keep saying how much you love the place and don't want it to close and love the community there, but you're not giving them any money until they change x, y, and z, and if they close down, oh well.

It's insane. Could you imagine acting like this in real life? Just go eat at a different Applebee's, man, it ain't that deep.

I'll run with that.

In my scenario the tables and chairs are all wobbly, the crockery is chipped and the cutlery is mismatched, the windows are cracked and repaired with tape, and the A/C doesn't work.

But the staff are attentive and make you feel welcomed, and the food is amazing, so you keep going back.

You just wish MANAGEMENT would stop being cheap, do their job, and take the time to ensure everything is fixed.

@JSP869 said:

@entrailbucket said:
MPQ isn't a contractor, it's a restaurant (god help me, it's another metaphor).

Yeah, you used to love it, but they fired the chef and changed the menu and now you hate all the food there. Instead of just going to a different restaurant, like a sane person would do, you keep eating food you hate, hoping something will magically change and it'll go back to the way it was.

Oh, and now they're going out of business because nobody pays for the food anymore, but you still won't stop going there and loudly screaming suggestions that they completely ignore. If they'd just make all the changes you want, they could stay in business! You'd start paying again! They could be successful! You keep saying how much you love the place and don't want it to close and love the community there, but you're not giving them any money until they change x, y, and z, and if they close down, oh well.

It's insane. Could you imagine acting like this in real life? Just go eat at a different Applebee's, man, it ain't that deep.

I'll run with that.

In my scenario the tables and chairs are all wobbly, the crockery is chipped and the cutlery is mismatched, the windows are cracked and repaired with tape, and the A/C doesn't work.

But the staff are attentive and make you feel welcomed, and the food is amazing, so you keep going back.

You just wish MANAGEMENT would stop being cheap, do their job, and take the time to ensure everything is fixed.

So you like the individual developers (the staff) but don't like the decisions the game's management are making? What a bizarre distinction to draw! How can you tell who's responsible for what?

Also it really, really, really doesn't sound like you think the game itself is "amazing."

@concillado said:
I haven’t read all comments, so sry if I am repeating someone else:

SamJugg is STILL dominating Lightning rounds where supports are off limits.

You sure it's not the 799 toons w May or Namor?

@Floater said:

@concillado said:
I haven’t read all comments, so sry if I am repeating someone else:

SamJugg is STILL dominating Lightning rounds where supports are off limits.

You sure it's not the 799 toons w May or Namor?

Definitly not, because as beefy as that sounds it has nothing to do with lightning rounds where no toons are boosted and supports are not available. I am solemnly talking about lightning rounds in my post.