New Character - Baron Zemo (Helmut Zemo) 5*

@SaltyRepertoire48 said:
It's a game. Roster the character or don't. People trying to be victims over a game.

Privilege speaks.

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
Just wanted to give a shoutout to the art team who decided for whatever reason that Zemo needed the most elaborate set of attack animations we'd seen in...awhile. Good job on the visuals.

Not tricking me into turning animations on.

I did however, turn the sound effects on recently, at very low volume. Barely audible. Quite nice, subtle emphasis.

But not the music tho. Mindless droning, nope, nope, nope.

I don't know about all of this back-and-forth debating about the right and wrong of certain characters.

I mean, we have Mephisto - essentially the Marvel equivalent of Lucifer.
He deals in human souls as currency, bringing misery and woe to anyone who has the misfortune of dealing with him. He would happily toss you into a fiery abyss and watch you burn in torment without a second thought. Evil personified...

I don't recall people losing their minds and threatening to leave or boycott when he arrived in the MPQ.

We also have Thanos.
This mofo wants to erase half of all life in the universe. Not just one particular group of people (and you can fill in the blank with anything you want on this one - pizzamakers, Libertarians, barbershop quartets, Idahoans, stamp collectors...), but half of everybody.

How is this dude not the absolute zenith for despicable characters? Nope, he apparently doesn't even move the outrage needle.

My point is that game is already chock full of characters who want to rule the world, or enslave it, or destroy it, or eat it. So I find it really hilarious that a humanoid character, who just so happens to be aligned with one ideology or another, could possibly warrant such an extreme reaction.

Comic book villains are bad (mmkay) - it just comes with the territory. The only thing that matters is how they perform in the game, the rest is just pixels and gratuitous punches.

@Scofie said:

@entrailbucket said:
The entire thread is so weird. Like 2 people expressed some very mild discomfort with a hypothetical future character (seriously, go back and read what they said) and now there's this several-day, increasingly aggressive ongoing dogpile going "suck it up snowflake!"

Why do people get so worked up about any of this? If somebody is uncomfortable let them be uncomfortable. There's no petition campaign, and nobody is holding protests.

I get that point of view. But by discussing discomfort openly, it adds understanding on all sides and that's not a bad thing. It's not a competition or an attempt to convert someone to your point of view, just learning about how other people think.

I think this would hold a lot more weight if anyone was trying to understand why those one or two people were uncomfortable, instead of continuously yelling that they're wussy, whiny victims who should just shut up.

**** @SaltyRepertoire48 said:
It's a game. Roster the character or don't. People trying to be victims over a game.

@Scofie said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Scofie said:

@entrailbucket said:
The entire thread is so weird. Like 2 people expressed some very mild discomfort with a hypothetical future character (seriously, go back and read what they said) and now there's this several-day, increasingly aggressive ongoing dogpile going "suck it up snowflake!"

Why do people get so worked up about any of this? If somebody is uncomfortable let them be uncomfortable. There's no petition campaign, and nobody is holding protests.

I get that point of view. But by discussing discomfort openly, it adds understanding on all sides and that's not a bad thing. It's not a competition or an attempt to convert someone to your point of view, just learning about how other people think.

I think this would hold a lot more weight if anyone was trying to understand why those one or two people were uncomfortable, instead of continuously yelling that they're wussy, whiny victims who should just shut up.

I think it would happen a lot more if people didn't massively exaggerate opposing opinions.

Ah, I'm sorry. Do you mean folks like the poster I quoted above, who's obviously seriously trying to understand another's viewpoint and not just dismissing them as whiny victims?

FWIW, adding Red Skull to the game may get it banned in China. So it may just be a monetary reason. China's Ministry of Culture forbids:

• Gambling-related content or game features
• Anything that violates China’s constitution
• Anything that threatens China’s national unity, sovereignty, or territorial integrity.
• Anything that harms the nation’s reputation, security, or interests.
• Anything that instigates racial/ethnic hatred, or harms ethnic traditions and cultures.
• Anything that violates China’s policy on religion by promoting cults or superstitions.
• Anything that promotes or incites obscenity, drug use, violence, or gambling.
• Anything that harms public ethics or China’s culture and traditions.
• Anything that insults, slanders, or violates the rights of others.
• Other content that violates the law

Also, some replies are a perfect example of how fragile and uninformed certain perspectives can be.

@DAZ0273 said:

@Bustapup said:

@DAZ0273 said:
So now we have had a chance to use him, I definitely didn't find him much fun.

I like him! He's very versatile and works great with characters that have low cost abilities like 5* Hawkeye or those who generate a lot of AP. Not sure how impactful he will be when not boosted though but I'm enjoying him so far with Winter Soldier and Meteorite as well .

Not meta changing by any means but I like that

Oh the Thunderbolts thing! I still haven’t champed K4rla so had forgot about her black AP thing which I guess works well with Zeno. I can’t lie, I am a bit Nova struck but will give Thunderbolts a try when I have more Zemo.

Moonstone is a lovely partner; the first use of her yellow usually nets enough black for Zemo to reduce the cost of all your other abilities by 3 (her yellow infinite included). Still not her best option, but fun and a good partner when it only cost 4 pink to stun 2 people for 3 turns.

I was having a lot of mid/low tier fun with Shuri and Deathlok also; basically nothing cost more than 3AP after their reductions and she fortifies all of his countdowns.