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slidecage
slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards
edited September 2024 in MPQ General Discussion

If i have another 2 star accended to 4 star at level 370 is it worth 25 bucks to buy another one to jack them to 5 star

so far got

wolvie and mag 2 star up to 5

but is any of them worth buying

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  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,722 Chairperson of the Boards

    I'd say the main value of getting one of the Ascended 2|4 deals is not to get the 2|4 itself - it doesn't take that long to advance them to 4 star status, speaking for myself I've got them all ascended to 4 stars at this point -- my highest is wolverine at 341, so "getting there."

    The main value is that you get to pretty much immediately advance your 2|4 to 5 star once you get the main to 370. Because the levels convert to levels (as opposed to covers,) combining Max/Max only makes sense at that character's "native" tier -- after that you put one extra level to get the LT (worth it,) but otherwise do Max/Min.

    With a 2|5 at the very least you're pulling a 5 star reward for every 4 covers for that toon, and that's great. They may be useful in PVE/PVP too -- tbh I suspect they're not going to be great but still, it's another option.

    I'm not doing it myself, I don't really spend more than $10 on this game at a time, but there's at least the above.

  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,722 Chairperson of the Boards

    Incidentally, this above is also the reason that the two ascended 3|4s in the Seasonal Token vaults are worth pulling. Right now, I've got my Kamala and IM30 chugging their way toward 370 -- but once I get IM30 to 370 I then need to rebuild him as a 3, max out that 3, then rebuild him again, put an extra level into him, and then I can ascend him to 5 star status. That will probably take months. While with Kamala, as soon as I get her to 370 I just need 3 covers to bring the dupe to 271 and then bam!

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,984 Chairperson of the Boards

    Ares and Iron Patriot are beasts.

    I, personally, don't find much value in the rest. I know entrail disagrees and I assume will chime in with why.

    Basically, I agree with Grim. You're not really paying for the character. You're paying to unlock the higher level rewards and maybe an extra turn or two of a meat shield in PvP.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,893 Chairperson of the Boards

    Everything @GrimSkald said about the rewards etc is true, and are perfectly good reasons to buy these.

    As for usability, I've got 2* Daken and Ares at 550, and when boosted they're in every single team I run that week, often over other 672s. Nightcrawler is really, really strong -- he's like 530 for me and I run him over higher level guys.

    On the other hand, I also have 2* Captain Marvel at 550, and even when boosted I haven't found a use for her. Captain America is close, and he's basically totally unusable (shocking, I know). So it really varies a lot. Some of the 2* are just awful, though -- the tier is very uneven in general.

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2024

    K thanks .. think I'm pretty close at getting the 2 star widow to 370 and wasn't sure to buy it or not

    Need to check to see who else I got close

    Not sure how I got either wolvie or mag rank so fast

    Same with 4 star America. Some how I got her to 5 star accended. Next 4 is thing since I got one at 366
    And one with 13 covers

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,893 Chairperson of the Boards

    I think 2* Wolverine might be good but I don't have him at a high enough level to know yet. Same with 2* Torch and 2* Thor -- anybody who depends on numbers is going to get monster numbers at 5*.

    I also have 2* Magneto at 550 and really never use him. OBW is close but I haven't tried her out very much. Storm's powers are probably too expensive and the trigger on her passive is probably too high.

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 652 Critical Contributor
    edited August 2024

    @entrailbucket said:
    Everything @GrimSkald said about the rewards etc is true, and are perfectly good reasons to buy these.

    As for usability, I've got 2* Daken and Ares at 550, and when boosted they're in every single team I run that week, often over other 672s. Nightcrawler is really, really strong -- he's like 530 for me and I run him over higher level guys.

    On the other hand, I also have 2* Captain Marvel at 550, and even when boosted I haven't found a use for her. Captain America is close, and he's basically totally unusable (shocking, I know). So it really varies a lot. Some of the 2* are just awful, though -- the tier is very uneven in general.

    Naturally ... and naturally he's the 2* I have closest to 5* ascension. Max+max, naturally.

    Remember way back when, playing PvE vs goons with OBW, 2Cap and Falcon (For some reason I had Falcon usable before 3Cap). Seems so quaint now. Clears took a long, loooooooooong time :D

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,893 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2024

    @JoeHandle said:

    Naturally ... and naturally he's the 2* I have closest to 5* ascension. Max+max, naturally.

    Remember way back when, playing PvE va goons with OBW, 2Cap and Falcon (For some reason I had Falcon usable before 3Cap). Seems so quaint now. Clears took a long, loooooooooong time :D

    Eh, sorry, I should've said that I can't find a use for him, not that he's unusable! Somebody might figure something out, I guess.

    Fwiw his red should do about 70k at 672. And his yellow is still sort of a secret winfinite power, maybe?

    (He's bad)

  • StevO-J
    StevO-J Posts: 754 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    Eh, sorry, I should've said that I can't find a use for him, not that he's unusable! Somebody might figure something out, I guess.

    Fwiw his red should do about 70k at 672. And his yellow is still sort of a secret winfinite power, maybe?

    (He's bad)

    If I may be so bold to ask, since I've been low key interested in the damage comparison between the 2 star and the 3 star variant of Captain America for a while now, you wouldn't happen to have (some of) those numbers on 3Cap ascended to 5 stars?

    I only have a direct comparison on lvl.266 for both, and the 3's red does about 3 times as much damage as the 2 star ascended to 3stars does. My 2s are only just approaching lvl.266 with their dupes for some (Wolverine will likely be my first 2 ascended to 4 stars), so I'm a long way off even getting one base 2 star to lvl.370.

    I'm guessing the trend will hold across all rarities, 2Cap is poor/3Cap is decent for damage, but if you have some numbers to put on it I would be interested to know. Thanks in advance!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,893 Chairperson of the Boards

    @StevO-J said:

    If I may be so bold to ask, since I've been low key interested in the damage comparison between the 2 star and the 3 star variant of Captain America for a while now, you wouldn't happen to have (some of) those numbers on 3Cap ascended to 5 stars?

    I only have a direct comparison on lvl.266 for both, and the 3's red does about 3 times as much damage as the 2 star ascended to 3stars does. My 2s are only just approaching lvl.266 with their dupes for some (Wolverine will likely be my first 2 ascended to 4 stars), so I'm a long way off even getting one base 2 star to lvl.370.

    I'm guessing the trend will hold across all rarities, 2Cap is poor/3Cap is decent for damage, but if you have some numbers to put on it I would be interested to know. Thanks in advance!

    I don't have 3* Cap all the way to 5*, mine is at 4*/lvl 370. His red does 14014 damage.

    (In case you care, 3->4 Cap yellow at lvl370 is 4 protect tiles for 1047 each. 2->5 Cap yellow at lvl544 is 4 protect tiles of 5144 each. Both powers still cost 19ap.)

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 652 Critical Contributor

    @StevO-J said:

    If I may be so bold to ask, since I've been low key interested in the damage comparison between the 2 star and the 3 star variant of Captain America for a while now, you wouldn't happen to have (some of) those numbers on 3Cap ascended to 5 stars?

    I only have a direct comparison on lvl.266 for both, and the 3's red does about 3 times as much damage as the 2 star ascended to 3stars does. My 2s are only just approaching lvl.266 with their dupes for some (Wolverine will likely be my first 2 ascended to 4 stars), so I'm a long way off even getting one base 2 star to lvl.370.

    I'm guessing the trend will hold across all rarities, 2Cap is poor/3Cap is decent for damage, but if you have some numbers to put on it I would be interested to know. Thanks in advance!

    2Cap
    at lvl 266 is 15,402; his red hits for 1,678
    at lvl 370 is 32,031; his red hits for 4,826
    at lvl 550 is 175,480; his red hits for 21,242
    at lvl 672 s.b. ~449,000 and his red dmg ~54,500.

    3Cap
    at lvl 266 is 15,402; his red hits for 4,965
    at lvl 370 is 32,031; his red hits for 14,014
    at lvl 550 s.b. 175,480; his red dmg s.b. ~61,700
    at lvl 672 s.b. ~449,000 and his red dmg ~158,000.

  • StevO-J
    StevO-J Posts: 754 Critical Contributor

    @JoeHandle said:

    2Cap
    at lvl 266 is 15,402; his red hits for 1,678
    at lvl 370 is 32,031; his red hits for 4,826
    at lvl 550 is 175,480; his red hits for 21,242
    at lvl 672 s.b. ~449,000 and his red dmg ~54,500.

    3Cap
    at lvl 266 is 15,402; his red hits for 4,965
    at lvl 370 is 32,031; his red hits for 14,014
    at lvl 550 s.b. 175,480; his red dmg s.b. ~61,700
    at lvl 672 s.b. ~449,000 and his red dmg ~158,000.

    That answered my question. Don't know if I ever get my character there, but something to look forward to I guess.

    Thank you all, awesome info!

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards

    Sad it's been almost 2 months without a 1 star offer for 20

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,370 Chairperson of the Boards

    With what they have learnt in that time expect the next offer to be 100 bucks which is probably nearer the true value

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2024

    @DAZ0273 said:
    With what they have learnt in that time expect the next offer to be 100 bucks which is probably nearer the true value

    100 bucks for all 8 accended. Sold

    Really though I think they mostly gave up on one stars. Seen alot of the 2 stars accended to 4 for 25

    Maybe that is there new sweet spot cause your still going to need tons of covers to get them to 5

    If I had one 2 star already max at 4 star might be tempted

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2024

    Change the topic headline so I can keep all my accended post here. Lol

    Why do I keep buying these 1 stars accended to 3 for 1000hp
    Did juggie again even though got 2. 5 stars
    I will never use them lol

  • ViralCore
    ViralCore Posts: 176 Tile Toppler

    There are 3 reasons to ascend as fast as possible. If you have the money to spare and any of them matters to you then yes it's worth it.

    1. Get a 5* version to help you be more competitive
    2. Get a 550 quicker. Got'ta collect them all.
    3. Get better rewards, as you level them, to advance your overall roster.
  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ViralCore said:
    There are 3 reasons to ascend as fast as possible. If you have the money to spare and any of them matters to you then yes it's worth it.

    1. Get a 5* version to help you be more competitive
    2. Get a 550 quicker. Got'ta collect them all.
    3. Get better rewards, as you level them, to advance your overall roster.

    i thought someone said you should wait till you had 2 max to combine

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,893 Chairperson of the Boards

    @slidecage said:

    i thought someone said you should wait till you had 2 max to combine

    You can get a few extra rewards if you do it this way. Someone has the math. It's not a huge amount of stuff.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,280 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2024

    Going for max-max gets you max rewards but if you want to use the characters at higher tiers sooner, and convert their covers into higher tier rewards sooner, then speeding through the 1-2 and 1-3, and 2-3 tiers via early ascension is highly recommended, by me.

    The 2s especially - we keep getting more of them which dilutes the pool, and you can't favorite them, so effectively you need to collect 23% more generic 2* covers to achieve the same increase in levels today than you did before they added NC, Electro and Iron Patriot.

    One might consider dilution to be inflation in terms of the cost when looking at a specific 2 you were trying to increase, as well as the broad increase in level and power and tier you probably want from your 2*s since what else are you doing with them? Other than farming them, maybe, but even that now takes 23% more covers and time than it did before Feb '24.

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