All ascended offers In the store topic

slidecage
slidecage Posts: 3,447 Chairperson of the Boards
edited 6 September 2024, 18:02 in MPQ General Discussion

If i have another 2 star accended to 4 star at level 370 is it worth 25 bucks to buy another one to jack them to 5 star

so far got

wolvie and mag 2 star up to 5

but is any of them worth buying

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  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,639 Chairperson of the Boards

    I'd say the main value of getting one of the Ascended 2|4 deals is not to get the 2|4 itself - it doesn't take that long to advance them to 4 star status, speaking for myself I've got them all ascended to 4 stars at this point -- my highest is wolverine at 341, so "getting there."

    The main value is that you get to pretty much immediately advance your 2|4 to 5 star once you get the main to 370. Because the levels convert to levels (as opposed to covers,) combining Max/Max only makes sense at that character's "native" tier -- after that you put one extra level to get the LT (worth it,) but otherwise do Max/Min.

    With a 2|5 at the very least you're pulling a 5 star reward for every 4 covers for that toon, and that's great. They may be useful in PVE/PVP too -- tbh I suspect they're not going to be great but still, it's another option.

    I'm not doing it myself, I don't really spend more than $10 on this game at a time, but there's at least the above.

  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,639 Chairperson of the Boards

    Incidentally, this above is also the reason that the two ascended 3|4s in the Seasonal Token vaults are worth pulling. Right now, I've got my Kamala and IM30 chugging their way toward 370 -- but once I get IM30 to 370 I then need to rebuild him as a 3, max out that 3, then rebuild him again, put an extra level into him, and then I can ascend him to 5 star status. That will probably take months. While with Kamala, as soon as I get her to 370 I just need 3 covers to bring the dupe to 271 and then bam!

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,640 Chairperson of the Boards

    Short answer no.

    Unless you want to use that as a base to jump to 5 then maybe? I still highly doubt it.
    Almost all 2a have basic kits that don’t translate up. I think Ares could move up and maybe Daken. Everyone else in the tier is at too expensive.

    Unless you really love the character I think the deals are a hard pass

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,733 Chairperson of the Boards

    Ares and Iron Patriot are beasts.

    I, personally, don't find much value in the rest. I know entrail disagrees and I assume will chime in with why.

    Basically, I agree with Grim. You're not really paying for the character. You're paying to unlock the higher level rewards and maybe an extra turn or two of a meat shield in PvP.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards

    Everything @GrimSkald said about the rewards etc is true, and are perfectly good reasons to buy these.

    As for usability, I've got 2* Daken and Ares at 550, and when boosted they're in every single team I run that week, often over other 672s. Nightcrawler is really, really strong -- he's like 530 for me and I run him over higher level guys.

    On the other hand, I also have 2* Captain Marvel at 550, and even when boosted I haven't found a use for her. Captain America is close, and he's basically totally unusable (shocking, I know). So it really varies a lot. Some of the 2* are just awful, though -- the tier is very uneven in general.

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,447 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 23 July 2024, 16:51

    K thanks .. think I'm pretty close at getting the 2 star widow to 370 and wasn't sure to buy it or not

    Need to check to see who else I got close

    Not sure how I got either wolvie or mag rank so fast

    Same with 4 star America. Some how I got her to 5 star accended. Next 4 is thing since I got one at 366
    And one with 13 covers

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards

    I think 2* Wolverine might be good but I don't have him at a high enough level to know yet. Same with 2* Torch and 2* Thor -- anybody who depends on numbers is going to get monster numbers at 5*.

    I also have 2* Magneto at 550 and really never use him. OBW is close but I haven't tried her out very much. Storm's powers are probably too expensive and the trigger on her passive is probably too high.

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 519 Critical Contributor
    edited 1 August 2024, 03:47

    @entrailbucket said:
    Everything @GrimSkald said about the rewards etc is true, and are perfectly good reasons to buy these.

    As for usability, I've got 2* Daken and Ares at 550, and when boosted they're in every single team I run that week, often over other 672s. Nightcrawler is really, really strong -- he's like 530 for me and I run him over higher level guys.

    On the other hand, I also have 2* Captain Marvel at 550, and even when boosted I haven't found a use for her. Captain America is close, and he's basically totally unusable (shocking, I know). So it really varies a lot. Some of the 2* are just awful, though -- the tier is very uneven in general.

    Naturally ... and naturally he's the 2* I have closest to 5* ascension. Max+max, naturally.

    Remember way back when, playing PvE vs goons with OBW, 2Cap and Falcon (For some reason I had Falcon usable before 3Cap). Seems so quaint now. Clears took a long, loooooooooong time :D

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 31 July 2024, 22:37

    @JoeHandle said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Everything @GrimSkald said about the rewards etc is true, and are perfectly good reasons to buy these.

    As for usability, I've got 2* Daken and Ares at 550, and when boosted they're in every single team I run that week, often over other 672s. Nightcrawler is really, really strong -- he's like 530 for me and I run him over higher level guys.

    On the other hand, I also have 2* Captain Marvel at 550, and even when boosted I haven't found a use for her. Captain America is close, and he's basically totally unusable (shocking, I know). So it really varies a lot. Some of the 2* are just awful, though -- the tier is very uneven in general.

    Naturally ... and naturally he's the 2* I have closest to 5* ascension. Max+max, naturally.

    Remember way back when, playing PvE va goons with OBW, 2Cap and Falcon (For some reason I had Falcon usable before 3Cap). Seems so quaint now. Clears took a long, loooooooooong time :D

    Eh, sorry, I should've said that I can't find a use for him, not that he's unusable! Somebody might figure something out, I guess.

    Fwiw his red should do about 70k at 672. And his yellow is still sort of a secret winfinite power, maybe?

    (He's bad)

  • StevO-J
    StevO-J Posts: 751 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    @JoeHandle said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Everything @GrimSkald said about the rewards etc is true, and are perfectly good reasons to buy these.

    As for usability, I've got 2* Daken and Ares at 550, and when boosted they're in every single team I run that week, often over other 672s. Nightcrawler is really, really strong -- he's like 530 for me and I run him over higher level guys.

    On the other hand, I also have 2* Captain Marvel at 550, and even when boosted I haven't found a use for her. Captain America is close, and he's basically totally unusable (shocking, I know). So it really varies a lot. Some of the 2* are just awful, though -- the tier is very uneven in general.

    Naturally ... and naturally he's the 2* I have closest to 5* ascension. Max+max, naturally.

    Remember way back when, playing PvE va goons with OBW, 2Cap and Falcon (For some reason I had Falcon usable before 3Cap). Seems so quaint now. Clears took a long, loooooooooong time :D

    Eh, sorry, I should've said that I can't find a use for him, not that he's unusable! Somebody might figure something out, I guess.

    Fwiw his red should do about 70k at 672. And his yellow is still sort of a secret winfinite power, maybe?

    (He's bad)

    If I may be so bold to ask, since I've been low key interested in the damage comparison between the 2 star and the 3 star variant of Captain America for a while now, you wouldn't happen to have (some of) those numbers on 3Cap ascended to 5 stars?

    I only have a direct comparison on lvl.266 for both, and the 3's red does about 3 times as much damage as the 2 star ascended to 3stars does. My 2s are only just approaching lvl.266 with their dupes for some (Wolverine will likely be my first 2 ascended to 4 stars), so I'm a long way off even getting one base 2 star to lvl.370.

    I'm guessing the trend will hold across all rarities, 2Cap is poor/3Cap is decent for damage, but if you have some numbers to put on it I would be interested to know. Thanks in advance!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards

    @StevO-J said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @JoeHandle said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Everything @GrimSkald said about the rewards etc is true, and are perfectly good reasons to buy these.

    As for usability, I've got 2* Daken and Ares at 550, and when boosted they're in every single team I run that week, often over other 672s. Nightcrawler is really, really strong -- he's like 530 for me and I run him over higher level guys.

    On the other hand, I also have 2* Captain Marvel at 550, and even when boosted I haven't found a use for her. Captain America is close, and he's basically totally unusable (shocking, I know). So it really varies a lot. Some of the 2* are just awful, though -- the tier is very uneven in general.

    Naturally ... and naturally he's the 2* I have closest to 5* ascension. Max+max, naturally.

    Remember way back when, playing PvE va goons with OBW, 2Cap and Falcon (For some reason I had Falcon usable before 3Cap). Seems so quaint now. Clears took a long, loooooooooong time :D

    Eh, sorry, I should've said that I can't find a use for him, not that he's unusable! Somebody might figure something out, I guess.

    Fwiw his red should do about 70k at 672. And his yellow is still sort of a secret winfinite power, maybe?

    (He's bad)

    If I may be so bold to ask, since I've been low key interested in the damage comparison between the 2 star and the 3 star variant of Captain America for a while now, you wouldn't happen to have (some of) those numbers on 3Cap ascended to 5 stars?

    I only have a direct comparison on lvl.266 for both, and the 3's red does about 3 times as much damage as the 2 star ascended to 3stars does. My 2s are only just approaching lvl.266 with their dupes for some (Wolverine will likely be my first 2 ascended to 4 stars), so I'm a long way off even getting one base 2 star to lvl.370.

    I'm guessing the trend will hold across all rarities, 2Cap is poor/3Cap is decent for damage, but if you have some numbers to put on it I would be interested to know. Thanks in advance!

    I don't have 3* Cap all the way to 5*, mine is at 4*/lvl 370. His red does 14014 damage.

    (In case you care, 3->4 Cap yellow at lvl370 is 4 protect tiles for 1047 each. 2->5 Cap yellow at lvl544 is 4 protect tiles of 5144 each. Both powers still cost 19ap.)

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 519 Critical Contributor

    @StevO-J said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @JoeHandle said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Everything @GrimSkald said about the rewards etc is true, and are perfectly good reasons to buy these.

    As for usability, I've got 2* Daken and Ares at 550, and when boosted they're in every single team I run that week, often over other 672s. Nightcrawler is really, really strong -- he's like 530 for me and I run him over higher level guys.

    On the other hand, I also have 2* Captain Marvel at 550, and even when boosted I haven't found a use for her. Captain America is close, and he's basically totally unusable (shocking, I know). So it really varies a lot. Some of the 2* are just awful, though -- the tier is very uneven in general.

    Naturally ... and naturally he's the 2* I have closest to 5* ascension. Max+max, naturally.

    Remember way back when, playing PvE va goons with OBW, 2Cap and Falcon (For some reason I had Falcon usable before 3Cap). Seems so quaint now. Clears took a long, loooooooooong time :D

    Eh, sorry, I should've said that I can't find a use for him, not that he's unusable! Somebody might figure something out, I guess.

    Fwiw his red should do about 70k at 672. And his yellow is still sort of a secret winfinite power, maybe?

    (He's bad)

    If I may be so bold to ask, since I've been low key interested in the damage comparison between the 2 star and the 3 star variant of Captain America for a while now, you wouldn't happen to have (some of) those numbers on 3Cap ascended to 5 stars?

    I only have a direct comparison on lvl.266 for both, and the 3's red does about 3 times as much damage as the 2 star ascended to 3stars does. My 2s are only just approaching lvl.266 with their dupes for some (Wolverine will likely be my first 2 ascended to 4 stars), so I'm a long way off even getting one base 2 star to lvl.370.

    I'm guessing the trend will hold across all rarities, 2Cap is poor/3Cap is decent for damage, but if you have some numbers to put on it I would be interested to know. Thanks in advance!

    2Cap
    at lvl 266 is 15,402; his red hits for 1,678
    at lvl 370 is 32,031; his red hits for 4,826
    at lvl 550 is 175,480; his red hits for 21,242
    at lvl 672 s.b. ~449,000 and his red dmg ~54,500.

    3Cap
    at lvl 266 is 15,402; his red hits for 4,965
    at lvl 370 is 32,031; his red hits for 14,014
    at lvl 550 s.b. 175,480; his red dmg s.b. ~61,700
    at lvl 672 s.b. ~449,000 and his red dmg ~158,000.

  • StevO-J
    StevO-J Posts: 751 Critical Contributor

    @JoeHandle said:

    @StevO-J said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @JoeHandle said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Everything @GrimSkald said about the rewards etc is true, and are perfectly good reasons to buy these.

    As for usability, I've got 2* Daken and Ares at 550, and when boosted they're in every single team I run that week, often over other 672s. Nightcrawler is really, really strong -- he's like 530 for me and I run him over higher level guys.

    On the other hand, I also have 2* Captain Marvel at 550, and even when boosted I haven't found a use for her. Captain America is close, and he's basically totally unusable (shocking, I know). So it really varies a lot. Some of the 2* are just awful, though -- the tier is very uneven in general.

    Naturally ... and naturally he's the 2* I have closest to 5* ascension. Max+max, naturally.

    Remember way back when, playing PvE va goons with OBW, 2Cap and Falcon (For some reason I had Falcon usable before 3Cap). Seems so quaint now. Clears took a long, loooooooooong time :D

    Eh, sorry, I should've said that I can't find a use for him, not that he's unusable! Somebody might figure something out, I guess.

    Fwiw his red should do about 70k at 672. And his yellow is still sort of a secret winfinite power, maybe?

    (He's bad)

    If I may be so bold to ask, since I've been low key interested in the damage comparison between the 2 star and the 3 star variant of Captain America for a while now, you wouldn't happen to have (some of) those numbers on 3Cap ascended to 5 stars?

    I only have a direct comparison on lvl.266 for both, and the 3's red does about 3 times as much damage as the 2 star ascended to 3stars does. My 2s are only just approaching lvl.266 with their dupes for some (Wolverine will likely be my first 2 ascended to 4 stars), so I'm a long way off even getting one base 2 star to lvl.370.

    I'm guessing the trend will hold across all rarities, 2Cap is poor/3Cap is decent for damage, but if you have some numbers to put on it I would be interested to know. Thanks in advance!

    2Cap
    at lvl 266 is 15,402; his red hits for 1,678
    at lvl 370 is 32,031; his red hits for 4,826
    at lvl 550 is 175,480; his red hits for 21,242
    at lvl 672 s.b. ~449,000 and his red dmg ~54,500.

    3Cap
    at lvl 266 is 15,402; his red hits for 4,965
    at lvl 370 is 32,031; his red hits for 14,014
    at lvl 550 s.b. 175,480; his red dmg s.b. ~61,700
    at lvl 672 s.b. ~449,000 and his red dmg ~158,000.

    That answered my question. Don't know if I ever get my character there, but something to look forward to I guess.

    Thank you all, awesome info!

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,447 Chairperson of the Boards

    Sad it's been almost 2 months without a 1 star offer for 20

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,272 Chairperson of the Boards

    With what they have learnt in that time expect the next offer to be 100 bucks which is probably nearer the true value

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,447 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 2 August 2024, 17:24

    @DAZ0273 said:
    With what they have learnt in that time expect the next offer to be 100 bucks which is probably nearer the true value

    100 bucks for all 8 accended. Sold

    Really though I think they mostly gave up on one stars. Seen alot of the 2 stars accended to 4 for 25

    Maybe that is there new sweet spot cause your still going to need tons of covers to get them to 5

    If I had one 2 star already max at 4 star might be tempted

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,447 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 7 August 2024, 20:56

    Change the topic headline so I can keep all my accended post here. Lol

    Why do I keep buying these 1 stars accended to 3 for 1000hp
    Did juggie again even though got 2. 5 stars
    I will never use them lol

  • ViralCore
    ViralCore Posts: 168 Tile Toppler

    There are 3 reasons to ascend as fast as possible. If you have the money to spare and any of them matters to you then yes it's worth it.

    1. Get a 5* version to help you be more competitive
    2. Get a 550 quicker. Got'ta collect them all.
    3. Get better rewards, as you level them, to advance your overall roster.
  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,447 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ViralCore said:
    There are 3 reasons to ascend as fast as possible. If you have the money to spare and any of them matters to you then yes it's worth it.

    1. Get a 5* version to help you be more competitive
    2. Get a 550 quicker. Got'ta collect them all.
    3. Get better rewards, as you level them, to advance your overall roster.

    i thought someone said you should wait till you had 2 max to combine

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards

    @slidecage said:

    @ViralCore said:
    There are 3 reasons to ascend as fast as possible. If you have the money to spare and any of them matters to you then yes it's worth it.

    1. Get a 5* version to help you be more competitive
    2. Get a 550 quicker. Got'ta collect them all.
    3. Get better rewards, as you level them, to advance your overall roster.

    i thought someone said you should wait till you had 2 max to combine

    You can get a few extra rewards if you do it this way. Someone has the math. It's not a huge amount of stuff.