one 550 screws up your entire pvp

St_Bernadus

Did you mean to say a 270 5 star would stomp on a 270 4-star? Because I respectfully disagree. One of those is maxed and the other not properly covered.

entrailbucket

@St_Bernadus said:
Did you mean to say a 270 5 star would stomp on a 270 4-star? Because I respectfully disagree. One of those is maxed and the other not properly covered.

Not true. Some players (often the ones pushing for stuff like this!) are running 13-cover 5*, levelled at 270/255/whatever.

That's why level isn't necessarily the best metric for strength.

Aweberman

@slidecage said:
I just want to crush 7 noobs so I can get my support thing lol

This is easy enough to accomplish. Simply join a PVP the moment it starts, and you'll get 7-10 "seed" teams. It's the easiest way to get most of the way to the first CP reward.

ThaRoadWarrior

@Aweberman said:

@slidecage said:
I just want to crush 7 noobs so I can get my support thing lol

This is easy enough to accomplish. Simply join a PVP the moment it starts, and you'll get 7-10 "seed" teams. It's the easiest way to get most of the way to the first CP reward.

I think you used to have to check the rewards before joining to get the full allotment of seed teams, but a lot of that stuff felt like "lucky socks" type behavior. I'm not sure if it really mattered or not.

LavaManLee

@entrailbucket said:

@BriMan2222 said:
"Also wouldn't be bad if they were 5 stars but 1 star sort of suck"

Hard disagree on this point. I have a decent amount of natural 5 star 550’s and I will use my boosted 1a5 characters over them all the time. One of the reasons I’m not hating this never-ending boost week as much as others is that I have 1a5 Spider-Man 550 and boosted to level 672 he is an absolute monster. Juggernaut is similarly awesome when boosted. I don’t have Yelena at 5 yet but I have gotten wrecked by lvl 672 yelena blue passive in pvp several times. Black Widow is not quite as good but still great (her stun is always useful). Venom hits like a truck despite his powers being expensive, but AP supports and ap boosts can make him worth using. Iron Man and Storm are usable when boosted if you don’t have better options. The only real dud is hawkeye, and that’s only because he’s shang chi but without the combo points so even boosted, you would get more out of just using Shang.

Plus, with so few 1 stars they get boosted very regularly. I see more and more people in pvp who’s only 550’s are all the 1 stars, but they have 672 teams to run every boost week.

Same. The 1* are absolutely legit, and in many cases are actually better than 550 5*.

And just wait till you start running 550 2*!

I'm looking forward to 2026 to try out my first 550 2*. :-)

Zarqa

@ThaRoadWarrior said:

@Aweberman said:

@slidecage said:
I just want to crush 7 noobs so I can get my support thing lol

This is easy enough to accomplish. Simply join a PVP the moment it starts, and you'll get 7-10 "seed" teams. It's the easiest way to get most of the way to the first CP reward.

I think you used to have to check the rewards before joining to get the full allotment of seed teams, but a lot of that stuff felt like "lucky socks" type behavior. I'm not sure if it really mattered or not.

I never check rewards anymore and I consistently get 8-9 seeds. Some occasions 10, when it goes fast, and sometimes 7 when I get distracted. I am confident that checking rewards is a myth, and it all depends on how many players are present at the opening of the slice.

entrailbucket

@Zarqa said:

@ThaRoadWarrior said:

@Aweberman said:

@slidecage said:
I just want to crush 7 noobs so I can get my support thing lol

This is easy enough to accomplish. Simply join a PVP the moment it starts, and you'll get 7-10 "seed" teams. It's the easiest way to get most of the way to the first CP reward.

I think you used to have to check the rewards before joining to get the full allotment of seed teams, but a lot of that stuff felt like "lucky socks" type behavior. I'm not sure if it really mattered or not.

I never check rewards anymore and I consistently get 8-9 seeds. Some occasions 10, when it goes fast, and sometimes 7 when I get distracted. I am confident that checking rewards is a myth, and it all depends on how many players are present at the opening of the slice.

I doubt checking the rewards would have any effect at all -- we know how matchmaking works and that's not a part of it.

When you first join an event, the game populates your 3 nodes with 3 seed teams (for unknown reasons). After you do a match, the game pulls your next set of matches (I forget how many, but it's more than 3) into a background queue.

If you do your first match fast enough that it can't find any other suitable players, it'll fill up that background queue with more seed teams.

Timemachinego

@Zarqa said:

I never check rewards anymore and I consistently get 8-9 seeds. Some occasions 10, when it goes fast, and sometimes 7 when I get distracted. I am confident that checking rewards is a myth, and it all depends on how many players are present at the opening of the slice.

Anecdotally it works, but it's only good for about 15 minutes past open. I still do it on lightning rounds and get 8 pretty much guaranteed, well past the window when I'd see none otherwise.

entrailbucket

@LavaManLee said:

@entrailbucket said:

@BriMan2222 said:
"Also wouldn't be bad if they were 5 stars but 1 star sort of suck"

Hard disagree on this point. I have a decent amount of natural 5 star 550’s and I will use my boosted 1a5 characters over them all the time. One of the reasons I’m not hating this never-ending boost week as much as others is that I have 1a5 Spider-Man 550 and boosted to level 672 he is an absolute monster. Juggernaut is similarly awesome when boosted. I don’t have Yelena at 5 yet but I have gotten wrecked by lvl 672 yelena blue passive in pvp several times. Black Widow is not quite as good but still great (her stun is always useful). Venom hits like a truck despite his powers being expensive, but AP supports and ap boosts can make him worth using. Iron Man and Storm are usable when boosted if you don’t have better options. The only real dud is hawkeye, and that’s only because he’s shang chi but without the combo points so even boosted, you would get more out of just using Shang.

Plus, with so few 1 stars they get boosted very regularly. I see more and more people in pvp who’s only 550’s are all the 1 stars, but they have 672 teams to run every boost week.

Same. The 1* are absolutely legit, and in many cases are actually better than 550 5*.

And just wait till you start running 550 2*!

I'm looking forward to 2026 to try out my first 550 2*. :-)

I mean, these guys are really strong, and fun to play with, but beyond that they're pretty inconsequential. I still lose to unboosted "meta" guys on defense constantly, so 672 2* are probably still a bit worse than 450 m'Thor/whoever. There's no particular competitive benefit to chasing them.

Dogface

How I hate those 1to5* ascended characters. They have ridiculous HP when boosted, and in PVP there are always some boosted. I sometimes check a person's roster and from time to time the 1to5* are their highest characters.
I get that this game needs to make money, but those 1to5* are such a shortcut and frankly a bit of a slap in the face for people who have worked on their roster for years and years and finally get a max champed true 5*.

LavaManLee

@Dogface said:
How I hate those 1to5* ascended characters. They have ridiculous HP when boosted, and in PVP there are always some boosted. I sometimes check a person's roster and from time to time the 1to5* are their highest characters.
I get that this game needs to make money, but those 1to5* are such a shortcut and frankly a bit of a slap in the face for people who have worked on their roster for years and years and finally get a max champed true 5*.

I totally get it. The good thing, though, is if you have any 2 of the meta at 550, even the boosted 1*s are not a problem. I eagerly seek them out as it generally means it's a noob that put them in and may not even have the right supports.

entrailbucket

@Dogface said:
How I hate those 1to5* ascended characters. They have ridiculous HP when boosted, and in PVP there are always some boosted. I sometimes check a person's roster and from time to time the 1to5* are their highest characters.
I get that this game needs to make money, but those 1to5* are such a shortcut and frankly a bit of a slap in the face for people who have worked on their roster for years and years and finally get a max champed true 5*.

I think it's a slap in the face to those who spend money that free to play players can compete at all.

This game won't die because it runs out of free to play players -- they get plenty of those every day and they're easily replaceable. It'll die because they stop making enough money to pay Marvel for the license. Players spend money because they want to win. They need to sell (even more) stuff that lets you win.

ThisisClemFandango

Capitalism usually ticks along because the people at the top have abundant resource and the ppl at the bottom aspire to be the people at the top.
I'm a grizzled old veteran so I have all characters at varying degrees at being top ended. Does it bother me that 1s can destroy my team? Yeah. Do I resent ppl because they are willing to pay to give them the edge? No.

Way of the world

This was quite a serious post....my god....have I....become....sensible?

entrailbucket

@ThisisClemFandango said:
Capitalism usually ticks along because the people at the top have abundant resource and the ppl at the bottom aspire to be the people at the top.
I'm a grizzled old veteran so I have all characters at varying degrees at being top ended. Does it bother me that 1s can destroy my team? Yeah. Do I resent ppl because they are willing to pay to give them the edge? No.

Way of the world

This was quite a serious post....my god....have I....become....sensible?

These games are just weird. It's not like, say, chess -- imagine if you could pay $19.99 to get a super-knight that moves like a queen and can't be captured. It's not like a $50 console game either (is it $60 now?) where they get a big chunk of money up front and that's it. These games have ongoing costs so they need ongoing revenues. Some of the big ones have gotten away with just selling costumes or whatever, but that ship has sailed with MPQ, a long time ago.

In their defense, they've never lied about what this is. From day one, they've sold stuff that lets you win better and faster, if you spend money. They show it to you the first time you sign in.

ThisisClemFandango

I had an interesting thought that seeing as elon musk is worth 256 billion dollars and there are 8.2 people in the world, if he gave every single person 1 billion how would that effect the world (hypothetically)
Not mpq or marvel related so I'll just name someone so I can stay relevant.
Paste pot pete.

Blazpheme

@ThisisClemFandango said:
I had an interesting thought that seeing as elon musk is worth 256 billion dollars and there are 8.2 people in the world, if he gave every single person 1 billion how would that effect the world (hypothetically)
Not mpq or marvel related so I'll just name someone so I can stay relevant.
Paste pot pete.

I know you probably meant to say that there are 8.2 billion people instead of just 8.2 (although I'd be curious to meet that 0.2 guy). At any rate, 256 billion dollars divided by 8.2 billion people would actually be just over 30 bucks per person. Not exactly world-changing stuff, but I wouldn't say no to that...

Oh, and to stay relevant, Modred the Mystic.

DAZ0273

Probably the only thing that needs looking at with the 1* is the regularity of how often they are boosted. There is a disproportionate advantage there that other equivalent 5* don't get normally.

Dogface

@DAZ0273 said:
Probably the only thing that needs looking at with the 1* is the regularity of how often they are boosted. There is a disproportionate advantage there that other equivalent 5* don't get normally.

Yeah, with the low number of 1*, just to have one boosted could suffice.

entrailbucket

@DAZ0273 said:
Probably the only thing that needs looking at with the 1* is the regularity of how often they are boosted. There is a disproportionate advantage there that other equivalent 5* don't get normally.

I'm not sure they'd still be worth $20 if that was the case. You'd upset a lot of folks who spent money.

DAZ0273

@entrailbucket said:

@DAZ0273 said:
Probably the only thing that needs looking at with the 1* is the regularity of how often they are boosted. There is a disproportionate advantage there that other equivalent 5* don't get normally.

I'm not sure they'd still be worth $20 if that was the case. You'd upset a lot of folks who spent money.

Didn't a lot of folk spend money on other 5* too? Probably a lot more than 20 bucks. 20 bucks should not be worth a never ending advantage.