one 550 screws up your entire pvp

slidecage

top ones
juggie 550
venom 541
STORM 523
black wid 518
aunt may 499

used to fight teams around 520 to 550 now every team is 600+

used to get 4500pts in pve now lucky to get 2000 since cant find teams to beat

bluewolf

Wait you used to get 4500 in PvP? Like normal events?

I thought you said you barely have time to play.

Are you talking about the season?

Also I would be a bit leery of making assessments of PvP currently as many players are getting tired of this boost list which is finishing its 3rd week straight with one more to go. Probably many are playing less and building scores less.

DAZ0273

He must be talking about overall Season score, coz even if he is putting up cough cough "only" 2k per event then I don't see what there is to complain about!

ThaRoadWarrior

Jean Grey and Ascended Professor X are great, I don’t know what people are complaining about lol

entrailbucket

Yes, like every other PvP game ever, you get matched with your peers. When your roster is in the top 1% of players, you get matched with other top 1%-ers.

ThisisClemFandango

How dare they force you to play others at your level.
I do admit I hate 550 1 stars more than any other character.
So if that's you just know you're on my "not friends" list.

DAZ0273

Maybe Slide shouldn't keep asking for the 1* deals, it seems he didn't realise that anybody could buy them not just him!

KGB

@entrailbucket said:
Yes, like every other PvP game ever, you get matched with your peers. When your roster is in the top 1% of players, you get matched with other top 1%-ers.

It's still a shame you can't opt to limit your roster options by level in order to occasionally play PvP with different teams / characters.

I'm sure 550 land is great for you with a large diverse number of 550s or near 550s but for players just breaking into 550 land like Sidecage its really limiting.

All the game would need is something simple when you joined PvP that would say something like
Unlimited - use any character on your roster
525 - Use any character on your roster L525 or less
500 - Use any character on your roster L500 or less
475 - Use any character on your roster L475 or less
450 - Use any character on your roster L450 or less
370 - Use any character on your roster L370 or less
300 - Use any character on your roster L300 or less
270 - Use any character on your roster L270 or less

Then you'd be matched against similar rosters just like you are now.

KGB

entrailbucket

@KGB said:

@entrailbucket said:
Yes, like every other PvP game ever, you get matched with your peers. When your roster is in the top 1% of players, you get matched with other top 1%-ers.

It's still a shame you can't opt to limit your roster options by level in order to occasionally play PvP with different teams / characters.

I'm sure 550 land is great for you with a large diverse number of 550s or near 550s but for players just breaking into 550 land like Sidecage its really limiting.

All the game would need is something simple when you joined PvP that would say something like
Unlimited - use any character on your roster
525 - Use any character on your roster L525 or less
500 - Use any character on your roster L500 or less
475 - Use any character on your roster L475 or less
450 - Use any character on your roster L450 or less
370 - Use any character on your roster L370 or less
300 - Use any character on your roster L300 or less
270 - Use any character on your roster L270 or less

Then you'd be matched against similar rosters just like you are now.

KGB

You've got WAY too many tiers there -- some of those would have hardly any players in them.

The only way I could see this actually working is to limit it by star tier, not level. A lvl270 5* is generally going to stomp all over lvl270 4*, to say nothing of lvl266 3*. I can't imagine wanting to play 3* -only PvP at this point, but if someone wants to do that I suppose it'd be fair to match them against other 3* players.

In general I'm just suspicious of this type of thing though. A PvP level cap would have a bunch of normal players moving up, and then a bunch of players who've intentionally soft capped their rosters at the top level of their chosen band, who've optimized everything including support stacks. The folks pushing for this are generally the ones who'd optimize that way.

Why do players want to endlessly stomp noobs in PvP? I want to fight players who can fight back. We have PvE for noob-stomping, why does PvP have to be that too?

slidecage

Yea it was 4500 per season. Events ranged 500 to 800

Notice all my high ranks are 1 and 2 stars ascended to 5.

I think my normal 5
Aunt may 499
Woman thor 484
And next 3 are. 47os

I would not have a problem fighting other 550 but when every match is 600+ it's nuts. Maybe cause I haven't got much on boosted

I just want to crush 7 noobs so I can get my support thing lol

Not really ranks but how about pvp
Any
4 stars and below
3 stars and below

Just think how much pain that be

Really though I didn't think I would seen these high team till I got venom to 550

Now wonder how bad it will be once I get 1 or 2 more 550

Also wouldn't be bad if they were 5 stars but 1 star sort of suck

Looks like I'm going to find another group to join. One I'm in ask for 4000 min pvp

Wonder how hard will be find a team don't care about placement in pvp or pve just boss battles

And I still want more 1 stars for 19.99

It may screwed up my pvp but all the free hp cp is nice

DAZ0273

@entrailbucket said:

@KGB said:

@entrailbucket said:
Yes, like every other PvP game ever, you get matched with your peers. When your roster is in the top 1% of players, you get matched with other top 1%-ers.

It's still a shame you can't opt to limit your roster options by level in order to occasionally play PvP with different teams / characters.

I'm sure 550 land is great for you with a large diverse number of 550s or near 550s but for players just breaking into 550 land like Sidecage its really limiting.

All the game would need is something simple when you joined PvP that would say something like
Unlimited - use any character on your roster
525 - Use any character on your roster L525 or less
500 - Use any character on your roster L500 or less
475 - Use any character on your roster L475 or less
450 - Use any character on your roster L450 or less
370 - Use any character on your roster L370 or less
300 - Use any character on your roster L300 or less
270 - Use any character on your roster L270 or less

Then you'd be matched against similar rosters just like you are now.

KGB

You've got WAY too many tiers there -- some of those would have hardly any players in them.

The only way I could see this actually working is to limit it by star tier, not level. A lvl270 5* is generally going to stomp all over lvl270 4*, to say nothing of lvl266 3*. I can't imagine wanting to play 3* -only PvP at this point, but if someone wants to do that I suppose it'd be fair to match them against other 3* players.

In general I'm just suspicious of this type of thing though. A PvP level cap would have a bunch of normal players moving up, and then a bunch of players who've intentionally soft capped their rosters at the top level of their chosen band, who've optimized everything including support stacks. The folks pushing for this are generally the ones who'd optimize that way.

Why do players want to endlessly stomp noobs in PvP? I want to fight players who can fight back. We have PvE for noob-stomping, why does PvP have to be that too?

KGB is (or used to be, dunno now) one of the Forums most well known softcappers so...

Borstock

The 1* 672s really aggravate me, especially now with boosts, so they can fire off a bomb on turn 0. That's as pay-to-win as this game gets, IMO. So, I get the frustrations. But this is the game the devs want. I don't think they can go backwards.

entrailbucket

@DAZ0273 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@KGB said:

@entrailbucket said:
Yes, like every other PvP game ever, you get matched with your peers. When your roster is in the top 1% of players, you get matched with other top 1%-ers.

It's still a shame you can't opt to limit your roster options by level in order to occasionally play PvP with different teams / characters.

I'm sure 550 land is great for you with a large diverse number of 550s or near 550s but for players just breaking into 550 land like Sidecage its really limiting.

All the game would need is something simple when you joined PvP that would say something like
Unlimited - use any character on your roster
525 - Use any character on your roster L525 or less
500 - Use any character on your roster L500 or less
475 - Use any character on your roster L475 or less
450 - Use any character on your roster L450 or less
370 - Use any character on your roster L370 or less
300 - Use any character on your roster L300 or less
270 - Use any character on your roster L270 or less

Then you'd be matched against similar rosters just like you are now.

KGB

You've got WAY too many tiers there -- some of those would have hardly any players in them.

The only way I could see this actually working is to limit it by star tier, not level. A lvl270 5* is generally going to stomp all over lvl270 4*, to say nothing of lvl266 3*. I can't imagine wanting to play 3* -only PvP at this point, but if someone wants to do that I suppose it'd be fair to match them against other 3* players.

In general I'm just suspicious of this type of thing though. A PvP level cap would have a bunch of normal players moving up, and then a bunch of players who've intentionally soft capped their rosters at the top level of their chosen band, who've optimized everything including support stacks. The folks pushing for this are generally the ones who'd optimize that way.

Why do players want to endlessly stomp noobs in PvP? I want to fight players who can fight back. We have PvE for noob-stomping, why does PvP have to be that too?

KGB is (or used to be, dunno now) one of the Forums most well known softcappers so...

I just don't understand the motivation, I guess.

Basically every other role-playing game, or game with RPG elements, scales to your level in some way. Some do it explicitly (all enemies level up as you do) while others do it implicitly (enemies in later areas are stronger).

I can't think of any game where the enemies stay the same difficulty forever, or where you can build your guys up and continue to fight lvl1 enemies forever. Wouldn't it be boring? What's the point of getting stronger if you aren't given an opportunity to struggle?

Borstock

@entrailbucket said:

@DAZ0273 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@KGB said:

@entrailbucket said:
Yes, like every other PvP game ever, you get matched with your peers. When your roster is in the top 1% of players, you get matched with other top 1%-ers.

It's still a shame you can't opt to limit your roster options by level in order to occasionally play PvP with different teams / characters.

I'm sure 550 land is great for you with a large diverse number of 550s or near 550s but for players just breaking into 550 land like Sidecage its really limiting.

All the game would need is something simple when you joined PvP that would say something like
Unlimited - use any character on your roster
525 - Use any character on your roster L525 or less
500 - Use any character on your roster L500 or less
475 - Use any character on your roster L475 or less
450 - Use any character on your roster L450 or less
370 - Use any character on your roster L370 or less
300 - Use any character on your roster L300 or less
270 - Use any character on your roster L270 or less

Then you'd be matched against similar rosters just like you are now.

KGB

You've got WAY too many tiers there -- some of those would have hardly any players in them.

The only way I could see this actually working is to limit it by star tier, not level. A lvl270 5* is generally going to stomp all over lvl270 4*, to say nothing of lvl266 3*. I can't imagine wanting to play 3* -only PvP at this point, but if someone wants to do that I suppose it'd be fair to match them against other 3* players.

In general I'm just suspicious of this type of thing though. A PvP level cap would have a bunch of normal players moving up, and then a bunch of players who've intentionally soft capped their rosters at the top level of their chosen band, who've optimized everything including support stacks. The folks pushing for this are generally the ones who'd optimize that way.

Why do players want to endlessly stomp noobs in PvP? I want to fight players who can fight back. We have PvE for noob-stomping, why does PvP have to be that too?

KGB is (or used to be, dunno now) one of the Forums most well known softcappers so...

I just don't understand the motivation, I guess.

Basically every other role-playing game, or game with RPG elements, scales to your level in some way. Some do it explicitly (all enemies level up as you do) while others do it implicitly (enemies in later areas are stronger).

I can't think of any game where the enemies stay the same difficulty forever, or where you can build your guys up and continue to fight lvl1 enemies forever. Wouldn't it be boring? What's the point of getting stronger if you aren't given an opportunity to struggle?

Maybe some whales can weigh in on why they continue to play despite outclassing every opponent and being able to Max champ new characters immediately.

No matter where you end up with this game, I feel like that boredom you're describing is there. It's just a matter of if it bothers you.

WilliamK1983

Woman Thor....classic slidecage.

entrailbucket

@Borstock said:

@entrailbucket said:

@DAZ0273 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@KGB said:

@entrailbucket said:
Yes, like every other PvP game ever, you get matched with your peers. When your roster is in the top 1% of players, you get matched with other top 1%-ers.

It's still a shame you can't opt to limit your roster options by level in order to occasionally play PvP with different teams / characters.

I'm sure 550 land is great for you with a large diverse number of 550s or near 550s but for players just breaking into 550 land like Sidecage its really limiting.

All the game would need is something simple when you joined PvP that would say something like
Unlimited - use any character on your roster
525 - Use any character on your roster L525 or less
500 - Use any character on your roster L500 or less
475 - Use any character on your roster L475 or less
450 - Use any character on your roster L450 or less
370 - Use any character on your roster L370 or less
300 - Use any character on your roster L300 or less
270 - Use any character on your roster L270 or less

Then you'd be matched against similar rosters just like you are now.

KGB

You've got WAY too many tiers there -- some of those would have hardly any players in them.

The only way I could see this actually working is to limit it by star tier, not level. A lvl270 5* is generally going to stomp all over lvl270 4*, to say nothing of lvl266 3*. I can't imagine wanting to play 3* -only PvP at this point, but if someone wants to do that I suppose it'd be fair to match them against other 3* players.

In general I'm just suspicious of this type of thing though. A PvP level cap would have a bunch of normal players moving up, and then a bunch of players who've intentionally soft capped their rosters at the top level of their chosen band, who've optimized everything including support stacks. The folks pushing for this are generally the ones who'd optimize that way.

Why do players want to endlessly stomp noobs in PvP? I want to fight players who can fight back. We have PvE for noob-stomping, why does PvP have to be that too?

KGB is (or used to be, dunno now) one of the Forums most well known softcappers so...

I just don't understand the motivation, I guess.

Basically every other role-playing game, or game with RPG elements, scales to your level in some way. Some do it explicitly (all enemies level up as you do) while others do it implicitly (enemies in later areas are stronger).

I can't think of any game where the enemies stay the same difficulty forever, or where you can build your guys up and continue to fight lvl1 enemies forever. Wouldn't it be boring? What's the point of getting stronger if you aren't given an opportunity to struggle?

Maybe some whales can weigh in on why they continue to play despite outclassing every opponent and being able to Max champ new characters immediately.

No matter where you end up with this game, I feel like that boredom you're describing is there. It's just a matter of if it bothers you.

I can't speak to those folks, but if you look at my roster you might think I'm in that position.

I'm absolutely not though! I wouldn't say I'm struggling, or facing opponents I can't beat, but I'm generally matched against peers (at least, until I get stuck grinding 5 pointers) and I have to think about what I'm doing or I'll lose. And I lose on defense all the time.

Sometimes I do intentionally handicap myself by running weird stuff, so maybe that's it.

BriMan2222

"Also wouldn't be bad if they were 5 stars but 1 star sort of suck"

Hard disagree on this point. I have a decent amount of natural 5 star 550’s and I will use my boosted 1a5 characters over them all the time. One of the reasons I’m not hating this never-ending boost week as much as others is that I have 1a5 Spider-Man 550 and boosted to level 672 he is an absolute monster. Juggernaut is similarly awesome when boosted. I don’t have Yelena at 5 yet but I have gotten wrecked by lvl 672 yelena blue passive in pvp several times. Black Widow is not quite as good but still great (her stun is always useful). Venom hits like a truck despite his powers being expensive, but AP supports and ap boosts can make him worth using. Iron Man and Storm are usable when boosted if you don’t have better options. The only real dud is hawkeye, and that’s only because he’s shang chi but without the combo points so even boosted, you would get more out of just using Shang.

Plus, with so few 1 stars they get boosted very regularly. I see more and more people in pvp who’s only 550’s are all the 1 stars, but they have 672 teams to run every boost week.

ThisisClemFandango

(Furiously writes Briman to the list)

BriMan2222

@ThisisClemFandango said:
(Furiously writes Briman to the list)

lolol

slidecage

@BriMan2222 said:
"Also wouldn't be bad if they were 5 stars but 1 star sort of suck"

Hard disagree on this point. I have a decent amount of natural 5 star 550’s and I will use my boosted 1a5 characters over them all the time. One of the reasons I’m not hating this never-ending boost week as much as others is that I have 1a5 Spider-Man 550 and boosted to level 672 he is an absolute monster. Juggernaut is similarly awesome when boosted. I don’t have Yelena at 5 yet but I have gotten wrecked by lvl 672 yelena blue passive in pvp several times. Black Widow is not quite as good but still great (her stun is always useful). Venom hits like a truck despite his powers being expensive, but AP supports and ap boosts can make him worth using. Iron Man and Storm are usable when boosted if you don’t have better options. The only real dud is hawkeye, and that’s only because he’s shang chi but without the combo points so even boosted, you would get more out of just using Shang.

Plus, with so few 1 stars they get boosted very regularly. I see more and more people in pvp who’s only 550’s are all the 1 stars, but they have 672 teams to run every boost week.

Boosted yes normal 1 stars nah juggie still can't beat the boosted people

entrailbucket

@BriMan2222 said:
"Also wouldn't be bad if they were 5 stars but 1 star sort of suck"

Hard disagree on this point. I have a decent amount of natural 5 star 550’s and I will use my boosted 1a5 characters over them all the time. One of the reasons I’m not hating this never-ending boost week as much as others is that I have 1a5 Spider-Man 550 and boosted to level 672 he is an absolute monster. Juggernaut is similarly awesome when boosted. I don’t have Yelena at 5 yet but I have gotten wrecked by lvl 672 yelena blue passive in pvp several times. Black Widow is not quite as good but still great (her stun is always useful). Venom hits like a truck despite his powers being expensive, but AP supports and ap boosts can make him worth using. Iron Man and Storm are usable when boosted if you don’t have better options. The only real dud is hawkeye, and that’s only because he’s shang chi but without the combo points so even boosted, you would get more out of just using Shang.

Plus, with so few 1 stars they get boosted very regularly. I see more and more people in pvp who’s only 550’s are all the 1 stars, but they have 672 teams to run every boost week.

Same. The 1* are absolutely legit, and in many cases are actually better than 550 5*.

And just wait till you start running 550 2*!