After 1 Year and $1200 this is what I got

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  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,397 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:

    @Scofie said:

    @Bowgentle said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    If Shang Chi was in Latest legends when he was champed then this can't be a 1 year period surely? Shang was released in August 2021meaning he would have rotated out of Latest before the end of 2021? Not looking to have a dig at anybody but the timeframe is confusing.

    OP played from October 21 to May 22, then again from July 23 to now.
    Skipping Chasm.

    Oh, that was not clear from the OP. Assumed it was FF store, not LL.

    He says so in the OP.

    I can see why some people think I don't read people's posts.... 😉

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,342 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Scofie said:
    @HowDoIUnlockBatman

    What an odd post. Just because your experience was different doesn't make the OP wrong. Especially because you've spent more but you can't quantify how much more. If I bought everything, every day for a year I'd have a better new roster than you. Also you've been paying for an extra 20 days, which, whilst not hugely significant, may also account for the differences.

    Also interesting that you don't want to interact with "[us] people". I can take it from that that you didn't want to engage in a conversation, and your only intent was to pointlessly brag and insult others. Being respectful is not difficult - please bear that in mind for future posts.

    And while I've got the floor, if you do quit, don't go back to the drugs. Not sure they'll help your sense of perspective.

    It's a pretty strange path: drugs -> Marvel Puzzle Quest but by the power of Excelsior, another life has been saved.

    I guess possibly Marvel Puzzle Quest does cater to people who like to get high coz otherwise how do you explain Doctor Bong?

    It's good to know that MPQ is there as an alternative to Dianetics as a recovery program, at least when MPQ drains your bank account it gives you a picture of Silver Surfer or a super animal instead of a forced confession.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,342 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    If Shang Chi was in Latest legends when he was champed then this can't be a 1 year period surely? Shang was released in August 2021meaning he would have rotated out of Latest before the end of 2021? Not looking to have a dig at anybody but the timeframe is confusing.

    OP played from October 21 to May 22, then again from July 23 to now.
    Skipping Chasm.

    Oh he skipped Chasm? That is quite a big thing!

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,342 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:

    @Scofie said:

    @Bowgentle said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    If Shang Chi was in Latest legends when he was champed then this can't be a 1 year period surely? Shang was released in August 2021meaning he would have rotated out of Latest before the end of 2021? Not looking to have a dig at anybody but the timeframe is confusing.

    OP played from October 21 to May 22, then again from July 23 to now.
    Skipping Chasm.

    Oh, that was not clear from the OP. Assumed it was FF store, not LL.

    He says so in the OP.

    Oh wait we were supposed to read ALL of that? Ooops.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,342 Chairperson of the Boards

    Did OP skip Bagman too? Coz if so then phooey! You can't call yourself minted until you have a champed Bagman, it is The Way!

  • Crowl
    Crowl Posts: 1,581 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Captain_Trips88 said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    That's not what I was saying.

    The reason you can play this game without spending money is that folks like bbigler do support the game financially. He's not cheating, he's literally allowing others to play this game. It wouldn't exist at all without folks like him and the money they spend.

    I know this the classic ‘I’ve been called out on something so I’ll change what I meant’ response and I should just leave it be but really? You referred to people who don’t pay for a mobile game that can be played for free as hilarious. How is that not meant as an insult?

    I believe the challenge to OP was not that he was cheating by spending money but pointing out that by spending a large sum of money it has benefitted their progress significantly. If this is a guide for new players then there is a very heavy caveat of the money spent, and any casual gamer picking this up after it’s been out for 10 years is unlikely to think that they will be spending over a grand on it

    I've changed absolutely nothing about what I said.

    I find it hilarious that some free to play MPQ players look down on and denigrate spenders, rather than acknowledging the fact that the game they play is only "free" because others spend.

    Every free to play player should be thanking bbigler for the $1200 he spent, because it allows them to continue enjoying the game without contributing financially to its continued existence.

    Did anyone denigrate the spending, it seemed more to be the case that people were dismissing his fairly arrogant claim that it was down to skill rather than money, obviously knowing and understanding the game played a big part, but trying to downplay the impact of the spending just seems silly.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:

    @Bowgentle said:

    @Scofie said:

    @Bowgentle said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    If Shang Chi was in Latest legends when he was champed then this can't be a 1 year period surely? Shang was released in August 2021meaning he would have rotated out of Latest before the end of 2021? Not looking to have a dig at anybody but the timeframe is confusing.

    OP played from October 21 to May 22, then again from July 23 to now.
    Skipping Chasm.

    Oh, that was not clear from the OP. Assumed it was FF store, not LL.

    He says so in the OP.

    Oh wait we were supposed to read ALL of that? Ooops.

    Nah I stopped where he said he was a genius for recognizing Shang as meta.

  • HowDoIUnlockBatman
    HowDoIUnlockBatman Posts: 44 Just Dropped In

    If the mod had anything about them, they would have immediately questioned the guy who was trying to flex and advising new players that they too could be like him if they dropped $1k+ and played the game 5 hours a day.

    Instead they jump on the guy who has actually been playing for a year and provides multiple examples of why the op is full of it. I'm not trying to flex my roster, i even advise new players to not spend money but because i roast on his choice of language and awful roster. Somehow I'm the bad guy.

    Even when faced with evidence, he doubles down and says 'yeah i think he favourited those 5' he had champed'. And then what comes next? Shards don't magically appear. You need to pull a lot to champ those 5s. He can't be pulling LL because he doesn't have any 5* until gwenom. And he can't have hoarded because he'd have a higher level omega red. He can't have gotten the shards from vaults because that would cost more than $1200 even if you only pull the 40x and 1x each day and there wouldn't be a lot left after roster slots anyway.

    You just assume that op is right and i am wrong and then make a snide comment about the drugs altering my personality. You also assume that the drugs i had been spending all my money on were the illegal kind and not the 'you need this for them to stay alive' kind and you wonder why you don't get any respect? Not that it's any of your business either way

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,342 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Crowl said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Captain_Trips88 said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    That's not what I was saying.

    The reason you can play this game without spending money is that folks like bbigler do support the game financially. He's not cheating, he's literally allowing others to play this game. It wouldn't exist at all without folks like him and the money they spend.

    I know this the classic ‘I’ve been called out on something so I’ll change what I meant’ response and I should just leave it be but really? You referred to people who don’t pay for a mobile game that can be played for free as hilarious. How is that not meant as an insult?

    I believe the challenge to OP was not that he was cheating by spending money but pointing out that by spending a large sum of money it has benefitted their progress significantly. If this is a guide for new players then there is a very heavy caveat of the money spent, and any casual gamer picking this up after it’s been out for 10 years is unlikely to think that they will be spending over a grand on it

    I've changed absolutely nothing about what I said.

    I find it hilarious that some free to play MPQ players look down on and denigrate spenders, rather than acknowledging the fact that the game they play is only "free" because others spend.

    Every free to play player should be thanking bbigler for the $1200 he spent, because it allows them to continue enjoying the game without contributing financially to its continued existence.

    Did anyone denigrate the spending, it seemed more to be the case that people were dismissing his fairly arrogant claim that it was down to skill rather than money, obviously knowing and understanding the game played a big part, but trying to downplay the impact of the spending just seems silly.

    People should be free to spend what they like but the spending is not insignificant if it gave the estimated 15% speed boost in progress. It's like saying Manchester City are top of the league but they only spend 15% more on wages than second place. 15% is massive!

  • Crowl
    Crowl Posts: 1,581 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:

    @Crowl said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Captain_Trips88 said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    That's not what I was saying.

    The reason you can play this game without spending money is that folks like bbigler do support the game financially. He's not cheating, he's literally allowing others to play this game. It wouldn't exist at all without folks like him and the money they spend.

    I know this the classic ‘I’ve been called out on something so I’ll change what I meant’ response and I should just leave it be but really? You referred to people who don’t pay for a mobile game that can be played for free as hilarious. How is that not meant as an insult?

    I believe the challenge to OP was not that he was cheating by spending money but pointing out that by spending a large sum of money it has benefitted their progress significantly. If this is a guide for new players then there is a very heavy caveat of the money spent, and any casual gamer picking this up after it’s been out for 10 years is unlikely to think that they will be spending over a grand on it

    I've changed absolutely nothing about what I said.

    I find it hilarious that some free to play MPQ players look down on and denigrate spenders, rather than acknowledging the fact that the game they play is only "free" because others spend.

    Every free to play player should be thanking bbigler for the $1200 he spent, because it allows them to continue enjoying the game without contributing financially to its continued existence.

    Did anyone denigrate the spending, it seemed more to be the case that people were dismissing his fairly arrogant claim that it was down to skill rather than money, obviously knowing and understanding the game played a big part, but trying to downplay the impact of the spending just seems silly.

    People should be free to spend what they like but the spending is not insignificant if it gave the estimated 15% speed boost in progress. It's like saying Manchester City are top of the league but they only spend 15% more on wages than second place. 15% is massive!

    Their downplaying the boost as being only 15% also seems very optimistic as well, any spending, especially during the early days of your roster has a huge impact, regardless of the time spent on the game or the skill of the player doing so.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,342 Chairperson of the Boards

    @HowDoIUnlockBatman said:
    If the mod had anything about them, they would have immediately questioned the guy who was trying to flex and advising new players that they too could be like him if they dropped $1k+ and played the game 5 hours a day.

    Instead they jump on the guy who has actually been playing for a year and provides multiple examples of why the op is full of it. I'm not trying to flex my roster, i even advise new players to not spend money but because i roast on his choice of language and awful roster. Somehow I'm the bad guy.

    Even when faced with evidence, he doubles down and says 'yeah i think he favourited those 5' he had champed'. And then what comes next? Shards don't magically appear. You need to pull a lot to champ those 5s. He can't be pulling LL because he doesn't have any 5* until gwenom. And he can't have hoarded because he'd have a higher level omega red. He can't have gotten the shards from vaults because that would cost more than $1200 even if you only pull the 40x and 1x each day and there wouldn't be a lot left after roster slots anyway.

    You just assume that op is right and i am wrong and then make a snide comment about the drugs altering my personality. You also assume that the drugs i had been spending all my money on were the illegal kind and not the 'you need this for them to stay alive' kind and you wonder why you don't get any respect? Not that it's any of your business either way

    As far as I am aware there is nothing in the rules of this Forum that prevent posters from talking about amounts of money spent or posting tips or guides (although in the old days they would have been moved to that section).

    Attacking the Moderators here is a folly, they actually are good at what they do but they are also just players also and are capable of commenting in that capacity - not every post involves moderation. I can't speak on Scofie's behalf but it seems to me he has addressed you directly as another poster on the forum rather than in any formal capacity as "the law".

    To be fair you offered up the comment on drugs without any further context.

    As somebody who has been moderated many many times on this forum I can advise that so far you are being treated with exceptional kid gloves!

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,282 Chairperson of the Boards

    @HowDoIUnlockBatman said:
    If the mod had anything about them, they would have immediately questioned the guy who was trying to flex and advising new players that they too could be like him if they dropped $1k+ and played the game 5 hours a day.

    As an FYI, the guy who wrote this article has been playing for many years. This is the 3rd time he's restarted his roster from scratch. The second and third (this time) he's documented his progress and compared it to prior times (you can search back find earlier posts on his 3rd restart progress from a year or so ago) to illustrate how much the game has changed for new player experience. That's why he wasn't immediately questioned, because he's a longtime known poster.

    This particular time, he split the 365 days into 2 parts which is why his 5 stars and the rest of his rosters looks like it does (missing characters during the break in the middle).

    KGB

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,397 Chairperson of the Boards

    @HowDoIUnlockBatman said:
    If the mod had anything about them, they would have immediately questioned the guy who was trying to flex and advising new players that they too could be like him if they dropped $1k+ and played the game 5 hours a day.

    Instead they jump on the guy who has actually been playing for a year and provides multiple examples of why the op is full of it. I'm not trying to flex my roster, i even advise new players to not spend money but because i roast on his choice of language and awful roster. Somehow I'm the bad guy.

    Even when faced with evidence, he doubles down and says 'yeah i think he favourited those 5' he had champed'. And then what comes next? Shards don't magically appear. You need to pull a lot to champ those 5s. He can't be pulling LL because he doesn't have any 5* until gwenom. And he can't have hoarded because he'd have a higher level omega red. He can't have gotten the shards from vaults because that would cost more than $1200 even if you only pull the 40x and 1x each day and there wouldn't be a lot left after roster slots anyway.

    You just assume that op is right and i am wrong and then make a snide comment about the drugs altering my personality. You also assume that the drugs i had been spending all my money on were the illegal kind and not the 'you need this for them to stay alive' kind and you wonder why you don't get any respect? Not that it's any of your business either way

    Sure, I can start questioning everything everyone posts on here and assume its a lie. Seems an odd starting point, but I could. Not my style.

    At any point, have I said I disbelieve your roster or how far you got in the game in a year but the OP was entirely right? No. So I treated your opinions of roster progress identically. If someone came in here saying about your post "that guys talking rubbish because there's no way you can get 26 5*s champed in a year and I spent way more money and only have 60 after 2 years, his roster is useless and he's got no right to offer an opinion" I'd be the same way to them.

    The OP might have got shards from Classics, which negates your other thoughts around the 5*. I'm offering options here - I don't know the ins and outs of what the OP did, but saying it's a lie seems bonkers to me unless you know them and you're just trolling them. Disagree by all means, but do so respectfully.

    You started your post with a tone of arrogance and putting someone else down. I don't care if you'd been here 5 minutes or 5 years, you were being obnoxious. You recognise you were being so and are on all the other platforms too (hence "everyone will attack me if they know who I am in game") but you seem to take exception to the fact that I called you out, and not what you perceive to be a false account of someone's progress. Then you continue to act that way whilst claiming some sort of "let's attack the new guy" conspiracy theory.

    As @DAZ0273 says - I'm a player who just likes people to be respectful on the forum. I don't Mod opinion, I Mod behaviour. If you want to be respectful, great. But that's not how you're coming across.

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,328 Chairperson of the Boards

    @HowDoIUnlockBatman said:
    No, what makes OP wrong is that his experience didn't take place within the last year, whereas mine did. Do you think he favourited the five stars he has champed or do you think it may be slightly more possible he pulled those covers when they were in latest legends, consecutively over a period of six months from sep21 onwards?

    He literally says Shang chi was in latest the post above mine. Do you even read peoples posts or are you just waiting to jump on new members to flex your mod powers that nobody cares about?

    You've pretty much just proved the point why i don't want to interact with you people in the game. I said nothing about the forum did i? I just don't want to have to shield 24/7 to prevent the constant attacks from whichever of the discord/line clique I've offended today.

    If you're worried about forumites attacking you in game, I think you've vastly over-estimated our power and our level of care. There's like 20 of us that are active here, and I really don't think any of us would go to the lengths to find out what slice you play pvp and then try to manipulate MMR to find you repeatedly. Even if somone was offended enough to want to do that, I think there's like 2 people here who would know how to do that.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Funniest part is, like half of the current posters are current or ex-Dorm.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,342 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:
    Funniest part is, like half of the current posters are current or ex-Dorm.

    So you're saying there's a chance!

  • bbigler
    bbigler Posts: 2,111 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2023

    It’s pure coincidence that I started this roster when Shang was in Latest, then I quit and missed Chasm & MThor, but if I stuck around I would have champed Chasm & MThor and finished my year.

    I wanted to stress that skill and hard work make a bigger difference than money & resources when it comes to being successful. This is certainly true in real life and that’s easy to observe. I also do woodworking and having a bunch of expensive tools does not guarantee that your projects will be great, it comes down to your own personal skill and effort. A car enthusiast can modify a car to be faster than anything you could buy, which is due to their skill and effort. An artist cannot create great work by simply buying expensive tools & supplies. I also do freediving and your performance in that sport has little to do with your equipment but is almost entirely based on your skill and effort. The same goes with cooking - success is based on skill.

    If you put an unskilled cook in an expensive kitchen with expensive ingredients, they will still fail. If you give an irresponsible 18 yr $50,000 and send them off, they will surely waste it. If you give a new MPQ player $1200, there’s no guarantee that they will have a strong 5-star roster after a year.

    Money does not buy success!, it is simply a resource, which can either be used wisely or wasted. Time is the same way. Making good decisions (skill) and putting in the effort (hard work) is what usually brings success. So, what skill is involved in MPQ? …

    • Knowing which Classic characters to add to your current roster to improve its strength
    • Knowing which new characters will be great (before a general consensus) so that you can focus your resources on them
    • Knowing which PVP battles you can easily win and avoiding the ones that will hurt you
    • Knowing the best times and order to play PVE & PVP events
    • Knowing how to win battles against enemies 2 - 3 times bigger than you
    • Knowing the best way to spend your resources, including HP, ISO, CP, tokens and even how to use your covers (duping or not)
    • Knowing the fastest way your roster can win battles

    Of course, none of the above knowledge matters if you don’t put in the work. And money can only assist you in this. It would take an unreasonable amount of money to literally buy a 5-star roster. Success is a combination of skill, work & resources. The game already gives you these resources for free, so purchases just give you more, sometimes a little more and sometimes a lot more. And $20 - $25 a week is just a little more.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,971 Chairperson of the Boards

    Money actually CAN buy success in this game, but I've only seen it happen once. It takes such an obscene, ridiculous amount of money that nobody in their right mind would ever do it.

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