Goose (Flerken Family) 5*****

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  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,959 Chairperson of the Boards

    So we actually know that this was changed, or was there a typo in the description (again)?

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2023

    @entrailbucket said:
    So we actually know that this was changed, or was there a typo in the description (again)?

    Does it even matter at this point?
    Either they didn't playtest, or they didn't proofread.

  • MoosePrime
    MoosePrime Posts: 969 Critical Contributor

    @bbigler said:
    @KGB We’ve seen this wording before (each ally in the battle) and I’m pretty sure it includes the character whose power it is. If it said “each other ally in the battle”, I would agree with you.

    The preview is now viewable in game, the ability says "Teammate", so probably doesn't include Goose.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,959 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bowgentle said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    So we actually know that this was changed, or was there a typo in the description (again)?

    Does it even matter at this point?
    Either they didn't playtest, or they didn't proofread.

    Right! They're two very different flavors of incompetence!

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,277 Chairperson of the Boards

    @MoosePrime said:

    @bbigler said:
    @KGB We’ve seen this wording before (each ally in the battle) and I’m pretty sure it includes the character whose power it is. If it said “each other ally in the battle”, I would agree with you.

    The preview is now viewable in game, the ability says "Teammate", so probably doesn't include Goose.

    Which makes 5 star Elektra that much better against Goose since she will steal half the strikes when Goose has 2 team mates and the only strike when Goose has just 1 left.

    KGB

  • Seph1roth5
    Seph1roth5 Posts: 429 Mover and Shaker

    They had to go back and redo magik (slightly better), admitted peggy needs to be fixed, basically right after release. Why not just revert Goose back to her first draft? She looked pretty good but nothing gamebreaking. Still takes a pile of AP to instakill, much more complicated than Kang.

    Honestly, as much as I like seeing a preview on the forums a few days before in-game, it'd be 1000x better if you guys just didn't do that. It's leading to so much disappointment when they get changed.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,959 Chairperson of the Boards

    The character is basically useless in this metagame anyway... everything Goose does puts stuff on the board or requires that stuff is on the board. There's 0 chance you'll ever get the instakill to fire against Thor, those tiles will be gone immediately.

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    Sure you can. You just wait to fire the powers until it’s time to fire black. Pair her with Miles, for example. Fire his green, her pink, then her black. Bring someone along who can use the charged tiles, like ascended Jane 4>5

  • Warbringa
    Warbringa Posts: 1,301 Chairperson of the Boards

    Cute but doesn't seem too amazing at first glance. Will be ok, but not necessarily must have? Now if a combo with the Cat and Kang emerges to get their instakill powers flowing fast, then she may be a must have.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,277 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Jinx said:
    Sure you can. You just wait to fire the powers until it’s time to fire black. Pair her with Miles, for example. Fire his green, her pink, then her black. Bring someone along who can use the charged tiles, like ascended Jane 4>5

    You are assuming Black can change mid turn. It may only switch at start of turn in which case you have to wait and hope the tiles survive.

    KGB

  • SourCream
    SourCream Posts: 104 Tile Toppler

    https://streamable.com/s66l9v

    Not 9, not Kang ?

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    Yeah, just saw black is 11 like you said. Maybe you just play her with SAP buffer and only use use black if you happen to stumble into the AP for it. She’s still good on defense and someone who can generate a bunch of big strike passively is always welcome, especially if they don’t have to use red to do it. Maybe use a buffer and a passive damage dealer like OR or iHulk.

  • Jinx
    Jinx Posts: 295 Mover and Shaker

    Maybe something like Vulture and Ultron. You would get a ton of strikes and attacks and gradually build black for the kill. Ultron buffs a little and it’s full rainbow.

  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 3,988 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2023

    I think the developers saw Rockett and Groot terrorize the four star tier, and were cautious. I wonder if since ascended 5* Grocket is about to make his debut, they were like screw it, might as well make money on a good/consistent (sorry, Wong) five star strike tile engine first.

    But I don’t know if they actually put that kind of thought into these releases. If I was running the company, I would.

    Black at 11 legit saddens me. I saw them as meta at the old cost. At 11 not so much.

  • skittledaddy
    skittledaddy Posts: 1,001 Chairperson of the Boards

    I was interested in trying Goose in place of Grocket on my usual Pick-2 PolGrocket team (especially seeing as how Grocket adds no value at all to the battle after Turn Zero), but that was when the description said strikes were generated on ally damage, not teammate damage. Now Goose will likely tank the damage on 4 of the colors, hence teammates taking damage on much fewer occasions.

  • Grizwald
    Grizwald Posts: 130 Tile Toppler

    Strikes are created on Goose taking damage. Tanking more colors would generate more strikes.

  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 3,988 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2023

    @Grizwald said:
    Strikes are created on Goose taking damage. Tanking more colors would generate more strikes.

    This is correct. When GOOSE takes damage she makes a strike for each teammate in the fight. You want her tanking.

    I think she’s also an upgrade to 5* grocket because Chasm completely nullifies that team and most Polaris teams that rely on beginning of game tile placement. The cat goose steps around that problem.

  • DrClever
    DrClever Posts: 584 Critical Contributor
    edited November 2023

    I think that vid also answers the question of whether the countdowns will get placed on other tiles if there's no basic tile on the diagonal directly next to the corner - looks like they won't.

    Is the black AP cost so high because there's an obvious black battery with further synergies?

    5torm is who I normally use if I need one and she doesn't seem problematic.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,959 Chairperson of the Boards

    @SourCream said:
    https://streamable.com/s66l9v

    Not 9, not Kang ?

    This is weird because they seem to be valuing Kang's Away as less than "instantly kill a guy." In practice, Kang blue is "instantly kill a guy" like 95% of the time. That extra 5% chance seems to be giving him a HUGE break on AP cost and castability compared to this.

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