**** Silver Samurai (Kenuichio Harada) ****

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  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,273 Chairperson of the Boards

    The wording on his black refers to "evading" - is the effect of that like Spider Woman's black?

  • Seph1roth5
    Seph1roth5 Posts: 426 Mover and Shaker

    Also, the black power's block chance goes up but the % damage taken gets worse as you level?

  • pepitedechocolat
    pepitedechocolat Posts: 249 Tile Toppler
    edited July 2023

    @Bzhai said:
    Just imagine how irritating he will be paired with Moondragon.

    Not sure his dmg reduction works with moony, as technically damage is kinda friendly fire.

    I'm curious what is the difference between evade and block?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards

    The way I read it, "evade" means he takes zero damage and "block" means he takes %reduced damage.

    I don't know if that's actually how it works though. Someone will have to test to see.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,235 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2023

    I read it same as EB does.

    When you fire the active Black, the next time he successfully blocks (30% at 5 covers), he takes zero damage, does double counter attack damage (810x2 at L270) and steals 2 Red AP.

    Otherwise the passive part of his Black just constantly gives him 30% chance to successfully block and take only 30% damage and deal 810 (at 270) counter attack damage (so 70% of the time, his passive does nothing).

    The active part of his Black is very expensive for what it does (saves 30% damage, extra 810 counter damage and steal 2 Red AP at 5 covers L270). Probably could have been a 3 AP power and been costed just fine assuming it could not stack (which we have no idea if it can).

    KGB

  • ElectricVasting
    ElectricVasting Posts: 26 Just Dropped In

    The only time it says that he evades is in the active Black description. So if we're correct, that would mean that when you cast the active black, it saves 100% damage along with other effects. I read it as -- he evades the next attack (100% damage reduction), BUT -- if his yellow kicks in first and he jumps in front of an ally to block damage before he gets attacked, then you get the bonus counter damage at that time (i.e. before he actually does any evading).

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,235 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2023

    If the active Black evades at 100% then it at least has value as a nuke avoider if you know the enemy has AP to fire a power and you can get him in front.

    I don't think it matters at all about his Yellow. The active Black just reduces his next damage to 0, doubles his counter attack damage and generates 2 Red AP. Shouldn't matter whether that next damage was because he leaped in front, took an AOE or direct damage (match/power/passive).

    All in all, not quite as good as 4* Elektra's Black (which for 10 AP generates 5 traps that can potentially block 5 attacks, do approximately the same counterattack damage and generate Black AP). No one really values Elektra's Black power that much so I assume this too won't have much value.

    KGB

  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2023

    (1) why the talk of evading or blocking when his black passive only provides for blocking? Is "blocking" when he jumps in front and "evading" is when he is the target? Or does his black active give him 1 stack of 100% "evade" DR and his black/yellow passive gives him a 35-45% chance at 65% "block" DR?

    (2) at best he has a 45% chance of only taking 35% of the damage? That seems less effective than Rogue's DR on paper, and she is minor annoyance to be sure, but nothing that stops a decent 4* roster, let alone a 5* one. But the passive counterattack damage could be interesting

    (3) red damage seems too low to be viable. Is BCS starting to overvalue active board-control powers the way demi did?

    (4) if he ever ends up in a pve challenge node, I expect the passive counterattack damage will cause some headaches for distracted players. But unboosted it's only going to do 1.6-3.2k damage (even with a rank 5 black) so I can't see it being that big a deal on its own.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,235 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2023

    @Vhailorx

    I read the passive part of his Black (5 covers) as giving him a 30% chance to block any and all incoming damage (match, AOE, power, jump in front from Yellow etc) and when he successfully blocks he takes only 30% of that damage and does 810 (L270) counter attack damage. So if he is in front and the enemy team makes a match that does 1000 damage he will 30% of the time block (taking 300 damage and doing 810 counter attack damage to the enemy character in front) and 70% of the time take the full 1000 damage. This seems pretty straight forward.

    I read the active part of his Black as he 100% evades the next damage he takes (match, AOE, power, jump in front from Yellow) and he does 2x counter attack damage and generates 2 Red AP. So if he fires his Black and he is in front and the enemy team makes a match that does 1000 damage he will take 0 damage (evades thanks to the Ring) and he does double counter attack damage (1620 L270) and generates 2 Red AP. This part of the power is a bit less clear but that's what I read from the sentences (evade = avoid damage entirely).

    KGB

  • Domsouth04
    Domsouth04 Posts: 54 Match Maker

    Has anyone got his cover yet?

  • Bzhai
    Bzhai Posts: 506 Critical Contributor
    edited July 2023

    @Domsouth04 said:
    Has anyone got his cover yet?

    I'd give it another day. Patch notes say fan favourites celebrations starts on the 14th. Or when MRG slice 2 starts, that's usually when in-game announcements are triggered.

  • Scorpion201
    Scorpion201 Posts: 66 Match Maker

    So what's the verdict on him is he good, decent or Black Knight bad?

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  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,273 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Scorpion201 said:
    So what's the verdict on him is he good, decent or Black Knight bad?

    He seems to have a theme to his powers (even though the descriptions are again a bit confusing) so I at least understand why I would want to use him and how. That doesn't mean he will be good but at least he makes sense. Black Knight seems to have nearly every power in the game and none of them make any sense or do anything. So SS for the win?

  • RealMonkeyMax
    RealMonkeyMax Posts: 9 Just Dropped In

    Who is he going to feed?

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,363 Chairperson of the Boards

    @RealMonkeyMax said:
    Who is he going to feed?

    Hit Monkey

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Hm.
    Any reason why Welcome to shield was shifted back a few hours?

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,434 Chairperson of the Boards

    Not sure but his 1:1 with Colleen Wing was very unfun. His yellow is useless in 1:1. Not sure why his yellow couldn't be adjusted to at least allow him to place the countdown to increase block damage by 20% even if there are no other allies. That at least would kind of make it useful.

  • allen_koholic
    allen_koholic Posts: 103 Tile Toppler

    Is his yellow supposed to not overwrite a new tile if the CD for it already exists? Seems wrong.

  • ThisisClemFandango
    ThisisClemFandango Posts: 836 Critical Contributor

    Wow wow wow, you just hang on.
    Are you seriously implying that this character may not work as intended?