Chasm Stealth Buff

entrailbucket
entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards
in MPQ General Discussion

Pointed out in another thread...it deserves its own. Chasm was updated with no announcement. He now drains 4AP per turn instead of 3.

Is this the balance change they teased? Why on Earth would he need a buff?

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  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 603 Critical Contributor

    Is it possible it pushes Chasm more towards support while buffing Kang, who will still get back the AP?

  • waywreth
    waywreth Posts: 303 Mover and Shaker

    But the green is now 75% on the low end instead of 90%, surely that extra AP drain won't matter?
    ... sigh

  • fight4thedream
    fight4thedream GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,973 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2023

    @Blackstone said:
    Is it possible it pushes Chasm more towards support while buffing Kang, who will still get back the AP?

    I don't think so. Chasm will still do decent damage and now that it drains 4AP it should still keep him hovering at the higher end of his damage potential against most teams. It may slow him down a tad bit more but it does nothing to address his interaction with iHulk and makes it more difficult for most 5* teams that rely on acquiring AP to deal with him.

    I suppose it does align with my theory that they see Chasm as key to keeping certain supports in check when they are introduced in PvP but it probably would have been wiser to wait and see how things fell into place instead of acting beforehand considering the character's lack of popularity. Of course, that's just a pet theory of mine but that's the only thing that makes sense to me.

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 603 Critical Contributor

    @fight4thedream said:

    @Blackstone said:
    Is it possible it pushes Chasm more towards support while buffing Kang, who will still get back the AP?

    I don't think so. Chasm will still do decent damage and now that it drains 4AP it should still keep him hovering at the higher end of his damage potential against most teams. It may slow him down a tad bit more but it does nothing to address his interaction with iHulk and makes it more difficult for most 5* teams that rely on acquiring AP to deal with him.

    I suppose it does align with my theory that they see Chasm as key to keeping certain supports in check when they are introduced in PvP but it probably would have been wiser to wait and see how things fell into place instead of acting beforehand considering the character's lack of popularity. Of course, that's just a pet theory of mine but that's the only thing that makes sense to me.

    I was hoping there was some other tweak that just wasn't spotted yet to even it out.

    Guess I'll go back to being cynical.

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Well we're back to draining 3 after the DP.
    Which apparently was so urgent they broke the green description.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,275 Chairperson of the Boards

    His AP drain is the thing that makes him the most obnoxious so why on earth they chose that particular aspect to increase I am at a complete loss. I mean he tortured us in so many ways but they chose his spear to the balls method to ramp up so now it is barbed too.

    Guess this is a big incentive to pull for Kang before he goes bye bye next week. Get pulling kiddos!!!!!

  • BlackBoltRocks
    BlackBoltRocks Posts: 1,187 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited May 2023

    Chasm’s Black is now back to its original numbers after the data push, while his Green is now code.

    Poor guy’s really going through a lot right now. Sending him thoughts and prayers :praying hands emoji:

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,275 Chairperson of the Boards

    Did anybody check to make sure iHulk didn't get buffed too?

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 603 Critical Contributor

    .........

    "Sorry about that guys. It was bring your kids to work day and the person that writes the abilities left their 9 year old alone at the computer."

    That's the only logical thing I can assume right now.

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 603 Critical Contributor

    It's back to normal

  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 978 Critical Contributor

    Still doesn't heal when web tiles are matched.

  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards

    The most logical explanation I could think up is that effectively they wanted to do a big nerf for chasm, but because everything they do ends backwards, they ended doing a big buff.
    Luckily their QA testers were quick enough realizing the mistake (us).

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,275 Chairperson of the Boards

    Yeah but...why would there be code that increases his AP drain, mistakenly sent live or not?

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Yeah usually when stuff like this happens it's not a mistake in intent, just in timing.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards

    If this is the "nerf" it will possibly increase Chasm's usage overall. We've pointed out several problems consistently: his excessive, every-turn passive AP drain, his infinite resurrection ability, his full-team stun at the start of a match and any time he's downed.

    He also does too much damage, but if they'd addressed any of the actually-problematic stuff he does, I could have lived with the current damage.

    Choosing to BUFF one of the most problematic abilities, while slightly nerfing the least problematic one... is certainly a choice. Remember, these guys nerfed Magik because she was supposedly so good that she'd have broken the game. Why is Chasm special?

  • DevpoolMPQ_BCS
    DevpoolMPQ_BCS ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 136 Tile Toppler

    This was a partial data update for Chasm that slipped in alongside our Lightning Round fix. The Chasm rebalance is still undergoing testing and what went live for a bit wasn’t the complete picture.

  • Colognoisseur
    Colognoisseur Posts: 806 Critical Contributor

    If I’m going to take a leap from what leaked out I suspect if the AP drain is going up to 4 it is also going to change to random color. I sincerely hope this is not what is being considered as history will repeat it self with Chasm 2.0 being similar to Gambit 2.0. I hope my crystal ball is malfunctioning but if the rebalance looks like this we are in for a rough ride.

  • tonypq
    tonypq Posts: 557 Critical Contributor

    @DevpoolMPQ_BCS said:
    This was a partial data update for Chasm that slipped in alongside our Lightning Round fix. The Chasm rebalance is still undergoing testing and what went live for a bit wasn’t the complete picture.

    So is BC ever going to comment on Chasm not always healing when matching web tiles ?

    If there's a rebalance still in the works it would be nice to have heard something about his healing being broken. It's been 3 months since myself and others brought this up and nothing but silence.

  • pepitedechocolat
    pepitedechocolat Posts: 249 Tile Toppler

    maybe they get rid of chasm healing altogether to fix the bug >:) .

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