Which Legacy Sets are you trying to complete?

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  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    Hour of Devastation (HOU)
    jtwood said:
    Mainloop25 said:
    Is there any other answer aside from HOU worth considering?
    You might be massively underestimating the power level of M19. 
    Let me know what I'm missing
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,090 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mainloop25 said:
    jtwood said:
    Mainloop25 said:
    Is there any other answer aside from HOU worth considering?
    You might be massively underestimating the power level of M19. 
    Let me know what I'm missing
    I think they're referring to BSZ
  • jtwood
    jtwood Posts: 1,285 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited June 2022
    Mainloop25 said:
    jtwood said:
    Mainloop25 said:
    Is there any other answer aside from HOU worth considering?
    You might be massively underestimating the power level of M19. 
    Let me know what I'm missing
    I mean... You could open the app and see, but sure...
    • MPs: BSZ, Summoner's Pact, Ball Lightning
    • Mythics: Djinn of Wishes, Apex of Power, Isolate
    • Rares: Vivien's Invocation
    • Uncommons: Scapeshift, Rupture Spire
    That set single-handedly wrecked Standard in its time and is still a major part of Legacy
  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    Hour of Devastation (HOU)
    jtwood said:
    Mainloop25 said:
    jtwood said:
    Mainloop25 said:
    Is there any other answer aside from HOU worth considering?
    You might be massively underestimating the power level of M19. 
    Let me know what I'm missing
    I mean... You could open the app and see, but sure...
    • MPs: BSZ, Summoner's Pact, Ball Lightning
    • Mythics: Djinn of Wishes, Apex of Power, Isolate
    • Rares: Vivien's Invocation
    • Uncommons: Scapeshift, Rupture Spire
    That set single-handedly wrecked Standard in its time and is still a major part of Legacy
    Are those all that great without Omni though? I never see those cards without being paired with them.
  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    Hour of Devastation (HOU)
    Plus you won't see the rares and uncommons in the elite pack anyway
  • BongoTheGrey
    BongoTheGrey Posts: 348 Mover and Shaker
    Kaladesh (KLD)
    Summoner's Pact with Omni is a waste of shields. BSZ doesn't work with Omni because Omni doesn't give cards stored mana. I guess some people play Ball Lightning with Omni but I personally use it with Kalemne HUF/Deploy. Apex is 100% an Omni deck staple.

    Oktagon's question was "Which Legacy set are you trying to complete" but never mentioned anything about Elite Packs. I know that everyone wants Omni and that's why they chose HOD. But is it the best set to complete? I don't know the answer since I've never thought about that before lol
  • jtwood
    jtwood Posts: 1,285 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mainloop25 said:
    jtwood said:
    Mainloop25 said:
    jtwood said:
    Mainloop25 said:
    Is there any other answer aside from HOU worth considering?
    You might be massively underestimating the power level of M19. 
    Let me know what I'm missing
    I mean... You could open the app and see, but sure...
    • MPs: BSZ, Summoner's Pact, Ball Lightning
    • Mythics: Djinn of Wishes, Apex of Power, Isolate
    • Rares: Vivien's Invocation
    • Uncommons: Scapeshift, Rupture Spire
    That set single-handedly wrecked Standard in its time and is still a major part of Legacy
    Are those all that great without Omni though? I never see those cards without being paired with them.
    Totally. I actually have a line in the sand: Omni deck or BSZ loop deck
    My Legacy decks are never both
  • jtwood
    jtwood Posts: 1,285 Chairperson of the Boards
    BongoTheGrey said:
    Oktagon's question was "Which Legacy set are you trying to complete" but never mentioned anything about Elite Packs. I know that everyone wants Omni and that's why they chose HOD. But is it the best set to complete? I don't know the answer since I've never thought about that before lol
    Best set to complete is ORI and PMA :wink:

  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    Hour of Devastation (HOU)
    jtwood said:
    Mainloop25 said:
    jtwood said:
    Mainloop25 said:
    jtwood said:
    Mainloop25 said:
    Is there any other answer aside from HOU worth considering?
    You might be massively underestimating the power level of M19. 
    Let me know what I'm missing
    I mean... You could open the app and see, but sure...
    • MPs: BSZ, Summoner's Pact, Ball Lightning
    • Mythics: Djinn of Wishes, Apex of Power, Isolate
    • Rares: Vivien's Invocation
    • Uncommons: Scapeshift, Rupture Spire
    That set single-handedly wrecked Standard in its time and is still a major part of Legacy
    Are those all that great without Omni though? I never see those cards without being paired with them.
    Totally. I actually have a line in the sand: Omni deck or BSZ loop deck
    My Legacy decks are never both
    Oh ok. I never got an BSZ so I never bothered to see how it worked.. Sometimes I check the battle log and see it in Omni decks though. So I guess it's all about how you use it
  • ambrosio191
    ambrosio191 Posts: 315 Mover and Shaker
    Kaladesh (KLD)
    Mainloop25 said:
    Oh ok. I never got an BSZ so I never bothered to see how it worked.. Sometimes I check the battle log and see it in Omni decks though. So I guess it's all about how you use it

    BSZ needs it's stored mana filled to function.  Because Omni reduces the base cost to 0, BSZ cant draw cards, and possibly cant even cast if it didnt already have some stored mana.  I'm fairly certain it wont gain mana either with Omni out due to how stored mana cards behave when the game thinks they are full (base cost of 0).  They definitely shouldnt be used together.

    I didnt have Omni when it was standard legal so I cant comment on it's usefulness then, but BSZ was an auto-include in any deck running blue.  There was almost never a reason not to include it.  At full strength (full stored mana and no other cards in hand) you get 6 cards that each gain 10 mana.  Even in legacy, if you are running blue, and it's not explicitly an Omni deck, BSZ is almost always an auto-include.  This is all post nerf, where it used to be a whole lot stronger. 

    People forget about it because it doesnt have the splash Omni does when Greg plays it, but in our hands BSZ is incredible.

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