Has there been a lack of comic characters released recently?
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Hugely disappointing, this game should be renamed DPPQ.1
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Marvel used to be a company that sold comics, and now they're a movie studio that happens to occasionally sell a few comic books. If they could get out of the comic business entirely, I'm sure they would. (Warners has talked about doing this with DC for a long time.).
As it stands, comic books are advertisements for the movies and tv shows that actually make money.2 -
WilliamK1983 said:Sweet, another Disney+ quota. Take a couple months off from releasing new characters.I don't get this comment.Disney+ characters:Monica Rambeau (completely new)Scarlet Witch (one of the most requested 5* versions of an existing character asked for that I have seen over the years)Alligator Loki (seemed pretty popular choice from a show about variants)They could have given us lazy version of Sam or Bucky at the 5* tier but didn't.So Hydra Stomper (who isn't even a Captain America variant) is the first one who already has multiple other Steve Rogers at every tier - however you can't really blame MPQ for wanting to do him in the light of their version of Peggy being in the spotlight in that shows episode.Otherwise we have had Electro, Lizard, Mantis, Morbius, Odin, Knull, Ronan so it isn't like it is just complete variants all the time.
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@DAZ0273
I get ya point but I will add to it: Mantis and Ronan aren't comic book versions. Its same coin but the other side of it. So there are more to that problem: we've got plenty of non-comic book versions characters who were mostly released since MCU has become a big thing. Mostly as a Nick Fury example show us a different approach. I still do not know wheter he is MCU or Nick Furt Jr.
Also I've already grew up from being grumpy when we are getting a non-comic book version. Better such than nothing. Or 6th Rogers or Parker.0 -
The reality is that there are multiple different types of Marvel fans from multiple sources, and the devs do a really good job of trying to cater to everybody. And lines aren't just drawn between comics/MCU. I'm sure some people would be glad to never see another X-Men character, and others have a dozen that they feel are painfully missing (before you start getting into the more niche characters).
We've had tons of MCU variants that could have been comic characters in the past two years or so (Ronin, Rescue, Mysterio, Yellowjacket, etc), but we've also had comic characters that COULD have used MCU versions and didn't (Misty Knight, Hellcat, Odin, Maria Hill, etc).
I like the variety. I'm excited when we see another Steve Rogers, because honestly, the game would have been lame if they'd drawn the line at the 2*/3* versions and never added any more to avoid Dupes. I'm doubly excited for Hydra Stomper as a character, simply because he wouldn't exist without OUR Peggy being so popular. That's awesome. And it would have been stupid to miss out on both him and Peggy because they only stuck to the comics. Just like it would be stupid to miss out on the likes of Apocalypse, Adam Warlock, and Emperor Doom if they'd only stuck to the MCU.
Variety is good thing.
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Mr_F said:@DAZ0273
I get ya point but I will add to it: Mantis and Ronan aren't comic book versions. Its same coin but the other side of it. So there are more to that problem: we've got plenty of non-comic book versions characters who were mostly released since MCU has become a big thing. Mostly as a Nick Fury example show us a different approach. I still do not know wheter he is MCU or Nick Furt Jr.
Also I've already grew up from being grumpy when we are getting a non-comic book version. Better such than nothing. Or 6th Rogers or Parker.I would love them to use the Introducing storyline for comic book Mantis - a Vietnamese hooker turned assassin who married a tree!Ronan is one of those characters who had no personality in the comic book and so his MCU counterpart who likewise has no personality isn't really a huge swerve ball.1 -
I'm indifferent to it for the most part. I haven't engaged with a paper marvel comic since 1992, so I don't really mind the cinematic versions showing up. It just bugs me when they are lame mechanically right out of the box. I do love some classic comic references though. I loved it when 5* Dr Octopus came out looking like Roy Orbison in his real clothes, I was hoping for awhile that variants at the 5* tier would be like that leaving the more attainable tiers to be where the more entry level cinematic versions were kept.0
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I’m trying to remember the last character we’ve had introduced that truly was a classic Marvel character not butchered by Disney . Electro may not be Disney but neither is she the classic villain. Kate Pryde I never heard of in the spin-off persona . I’m thinking Knull as the closest to fitting the description. ( Hopefully Disney won’t delete this post either ).0
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Odin. It's barely been a month.
But if you're going to split hairs and try and disqualify comic characters and make weird claims like Disney would delete your post, it doesn't seem you're interested in the actual answer to begin with.6 -
Whoah! Throwing some real shade Ronan's way! Who's The Accuser now? YOU ARE!DAZ0273 said:Ronan is one of those characters who had no personality in the comic book and so his MCU counterpart who likewise has no personality isn't really a huge swerve ball.
But yeah, I agree. Ronin being so bland and generic is one of the key reasons I rank GotG Volume 2 ahead of Volume 1. Also Nebula, who goes on to have one of the best arcs in the MCU, is only really developed starting in Volume 2.
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Kate Pryde is 100% from the comics.TheEyeDoctorsWife said:I’m trying to remember the last character we’ve had introduced that truly was a classic Marvel character not butchered by Disney . Electro may not be Disney but neither is she the classic villain. Kate Pryde I never heard of in the spin-off persona . I’m thinking Knull as the closest to fitting the description. ( Hopefully Disney won’t delete this post either ).0 -
I agree , and I didn’t read the hundreds of X titles , so I’m unfamiliar with this character , although I know the Marauders well and she was never with them in the classic era .MegaBee said:
Kate Pryde is 100% from the comics.TheEyeDoctorsWife said:I’m trying to remember the last character we’ve had introduced that truly was a classic Marvel character not butchered by Disney . Electro may not be Disney but neither is she the classic villain. Kate Pryde I never heard of in the spin-off persona . I’m thinking Knull as the closest to fitting the description. ( Hopefully Disney won’t delete this post either ).Odin , a classic Marvel ,has been in the MCU since original Thor .I’m talking about everyone from Absorbing Man and Annihilus to Hercules and Zzzax0 -
Comics were in a years-long death spiral before the MCU brought interest back to them. The MCU is almost definitely why this game managed to survive so long, and why it continues to be successful.
Someone could theoretically take a stand and create a game that just caters to hardcore comic book fans, ignoring the millions of people who *only* know these characters from movies and tv shows.
That game would make like 10% as much money as this one and would probably exist for a few months before closing down.3 -
If you give it time, all those deep cuts will show up onscreen. People can say what they want about the MCU, but they are definitely rooting around into the corners of the toy box and not just taking out whatever batman family thing is on top like Warner Bros (shots fired!).0
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Zzzax? Ha ha seriously?!?!? If we are going to Zzzax levels of barrel scraping then please please please can we have Turner D Century, Drom the Backwards Man and of course Paste Pot Pete!1
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We've already got half of the Frightful Four in game...Waddles_Pines said:3 -
I'm hoping that the new She-Hulk series has Awesome Andy... though currently only Titania is confirmed, so that would make 3 Frightful Four members....MegaBee said:
We've already got half of the Frightful Four in game...Waddles_Pines said:1 -
I only used the reference as the omega listed Marvel character alphabetical but you get the idea . And I’d take TrapsterDAZ0273 said:Zzzax? Ha ha seriously?!?!? If we are going to Zzzax levels of barrel scraping then please please please can we have Turner D Century, Drom the Backwards Man and of course Paste Pot Pete!0 -
This is definitely going way off topic, but the creator of MODOK was told he could use any Marvel character except for three: Paste Pot Pete, Stilt Man and Turner D Century. Go figure.
https://www.ign.com/articles/modok-series-co-creators-on-why-they-chose-modok-and-which-marvel-cameos-werent-allowed
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