Week 17 Boosted list Black Widow (Natasha Romanoff), Hawkeye (Clint Barton), Heimdall, Hela

Sekilicious

Mr_F said:

TheEyeDoctorsWife said:

Sekilicious said:

Well if Polaris is going to be boosted I’m going to SCL10 PvE again 

Even with her boosted it means she’ll most likely be KO in 3 turns instead of the usual first 2 moves . I actually like finding her on defense teams it’s basically a 3 on 2 battle

PVE, not PVP.

@HoundofShadow I am transitioning from 4* to 5* so I can tell: heavily depends on roster. What ya have or not highly covered and leveled. Like I still wait for Wasp and I used a lot Yelena when she was boosted but last week was hard cause my Iron Man 2/0/3 or Surfer 0/3/2 are not leveled and therefore not usable. The rest has 1-2 covers so ya know. Next week will be similar: I will have to rely on 4* and maybe my highly leveled non-boosted 5*. This week I'm using Juggs/Karnak. Juggs is awesome cause he can tank all those 5* match dmg. Propably will have to use him again. Strangly, Spider-Man PVP "has allowed" me to use Wasp 451/Yelena 405.

I definetly will rely on Polaris/BRB and boosted Wolfsbane this week. Maybe Peggy will replace Karnak and wil rock. Will see. But definetly 4* and maybe Wasp and Yelena.

There are definitely times I get match damaged to death in SCL 10 PvE as well. Normally after the 3rd clearing of the challenge or 5* node it can be a bit of a struggle getting even the J1ggernaut winfinite engine going, especially when I forget that Juggs tanks two colors.  

Bad

Luckily there is a bit of diversity in 5* releasing order and I can use Heimdall if wanted. Another job for SW.
However usually if polaris is buffed then the event is a brolaris fest.

Mr_F

@Sekilicious Of course. But with right setup she can be/may be protected.

Actually I may have more "info" how 4*->5* players POV is.

I chase Electro so I will soon find out how hard is SCL 10 on my own. It will be my 1st attempt and I am going for full progression and whatever placement.

That might be a right question here. I have Polaris 285 an BRB 300 (2/1/1). I need a 3rd wheel here to survive in SCl10 to get full progression. My options are:

• boosted 5* Heimdall is 1/1/2 lv 255 and Widow is 2/1/1 lv 285. Propably not worth to pack ISO into them now.
• Wasp 451, Storm 5/2/4 lv 420, Yelena 4/3/3 lv 405 and Professor 3/2/4 lv 390.
• Boosted 4* - propably Wolfsbane for her Black and Red or Gamora.

What ya think, guys? 

Bad

Mr_F said:

My options are:

• boosted 5* Heimdall is 1/1/2 lv 255 and Widow is 2/1/1 lv 285. Propably not worth to pack ISO into them now.
• Wasp 451, Storm 5/2/4 lv 420, Yelena 4/3/3 lv 405 and Professor 3/2/4 lv 390.
• Boosted 4* - propably Wolfsbane for her Black and Red or Gamora.

What ya think, guys? 

You would need a special tiles spammer for to help polaris. Possibly kitty 5* or 4*,or nico.

Sekilicious

Mr_F said:

@Sekilicious Of course. But with right setup she can be/may be protected.

Actually I may have more "info" how 4*->5* players POV is.

I chase Electro so I will soon find out how hard is SCL 10 on my own. It will be my 1st attempt and I am going for full progression and whatever placement.

That might be a right question here. I have Polaris 285 an BRB 300 (2/1/1). I need a 3rd wheel here to survive in SCl10 to get full progression. My options are:

• boosted 5* Heimdall is 1/1/2 lv 255 and Widow is 2/1/1 lv 285. Propably not worth to pack ISO into them now.
• Wasp 451, Storm 5/2/4 lv 420, Yelena 4/3/3 lv 405 and Professor 3/2/4 lv 390.
• Boosted 4* - propably Wolfsbane for her Black and Red or Gamora.

What ya think, guys? 

What is your Th4nos like? My first foray into SCL10 I relied heavily on my undercovered BRB (now 2/2/3 lvl 280, which he has been at for a couple months now) with Polaris and 1* Juggernaut. Against non-tile movers you just need to fill the board and they are helpless. I haven't tried this arrangement against multiple Dark Avengers yet. Th4nos should be better than Juggs against tile movers, but hey, once the board is filled with protects created by a boosted Polaris you should be safe with either. I expect I will need health packs regardless. 

ThaRoadWarrior

You can use Rocket/Polaris/Juggernaut to do 4x clears of all the "easy" nodes in SCL10 in a single swipe so long as you arrange to hit the target with the highest health first.

After that, you can switch to Wa5p/Polaris/G4mora and try to do the stunlock->Deadliest Woman combo by chasing blue and specials potentially. Just make sure that you're prioritizing matching blues and purples to keep everyone stunned until all your purple tiles have friendly specials to insta-kill whoever is in front. Polaris/G4mora may even be able to do enough clears on pick-2 nodes to hit full progression. Keep in mind that you only have to do 3x clears of everything (including the challenge node) at full points to hit full progression across the event in SCL 10, it's pretty forgiving. Also there are only 4x clears worth of node rewards.

Sekilicious

ThaRoadWarrior said:

You can use Rocket/Polaris/Juggernaut to do 4x clears of all the "easy" nodes in SCL10 in a single swipe so long as you arrange to hit the target with the highest health first.

After that, you can switch to Wa5p/Polaris/G4mora and try to do the stunlock->Deadliest Woman combo by chasing blue and specials potentially. Just make sure that you're prioritizing matching blues and purples to keep everyone stunned until all your purple tiles have friendly specials to insta-kill whoever is in front. Polaris/G4mora may even be able to do enough clears on pick-2 nodes to hit full progression. Keep in mind that you only have to do 3x clears of everything (including the challenge node) at full points to hit full progression across the event in SCL 10, it's pretty forgiving. Also there are only 4x clears worth of node rewards.

The challenge node can be unforgiving, lol. I have also been curious about how Mantis and C4rnage would handle the Pick 2 but not enough to try it out. 

ThaRoadWarrior

I like G4mora for it because of Deadliest Woman. A pure stunlock team is a fairly long road given the health pools you're up against. It is pretty reliable though. Vulture/iHulk, so long as you have at least one color on What Does Kill Me can sometimes do it to, so long as Hela isn't on the other team.

Srheer0

entrailbucket said:

I tried the combo out when Heimdall was released and it's ok but it really suffers from a lack of stuff to do on other colors.  If you can't get blue or red AP you can't do anything.

With Hawkeye boosted, out of arrows will hit much harder so it may be more viable.

Hey, has anyone ever used Hela for anything?  What does she even do???

Replaces enemy specials with your own strikes.  

Boosts your attack tiles when you down an enemy.  

And deals random damage 4 times, similar to BrB. But weaker.  @entrailbucket

Out of everyone in that list, I have hela champed, and everyone else at 4-8 covers. So looks like I will be finding efficient Hela teams. Or relying on colossus and Wanda again.

entrailbucket

I'm always interested in the forgotten 5* and why they were forgotten.  I think Hela showed up during the Okoye Thor meta (her green draining power seems like a (bad) attempt at a Thor counter).

Revisiting some of these characters has been pretty cool, because they were forgotten/overlooked for reasons that had nothing to do with them -- they just never got a shot because of the oppressive meta at the time. 

Some if them are still quite bad, but lots of them do have redeeming qualities.

ThaRoadWarrior

Hela could have been a Thor and/or Hulk counter if her black had populated all the greens with attack tiles. Thor can only break basic greens, same as hulk. I really don't know why they chose to put them all over blue. 

Mr_F

TLDR: my roster is on gamependium, weekly updated (link below).

NON-TLDR: Sadly My Grocket and Thanos are fully covered yet not champed. Thanos i level 78 so... Kitty is not an option: one cover. So propaby my only option is BRB/Polaris and Gamora/Wolfsbane/Peggy (in that order). Maybe Wasp in a pinch. Unless ya have other ideas.

helix72

Mr_F said:

TLDR: my roster is on gamependium, weekly updated (link below).

NON-TLDR: Sadly My Grocket and Thanos are fully covered yet not champed. Thanos i level 78 so... Kitty is not an option: one cover. So propaby my only option is BRB/Polaris and Gamora/Wolfsbane/Peggy (in that order). Maybe Wasp in a pinch. Unless ya have other ideas.

There there are lots of other characters that have tile destruction powers to go winfinite paired with BRB/Polaris besides 4* Thanos and 1* Juggernaut. 1* Juggs gets going the fastest, and Th4nos starts slower but finishes faster (in the SCL10 CN), thus those are the two most commonly discussed. But you can look at others like 2* Storm or 4* Thing as slower but still effective alternatives.

Mr_F

Which reminds me about Howard the Duck. Will see. I have to do it... lets say  by expierence.

Sekilicious

Mr_F said:

Which reminds me about Howard the Duck. Will see. I have to do it... lets say  by expierence.

I liked Howard as part of the winfinite but unfortunately he only breaks green. Not ideal in so many ways. C4rnage and X-Wolvie are also good. Wolvie brings two tile destruction options to the table if your board is starved for green. 

HoundofShadow

I was pretty high on Hela because to me she's anti-BRB. Back then, there wasn't a lot of 5* who can replace special tiles.

And Gamepedium is not working for me. BRB/Polaris/Bishop can be fun. Your blue aps will be stacked with those blue match-4 and 5. Remember to slap those appropriate supports.

Mr_F

Yeah. There are some options. I mentioned Howard cause in his last PVP I used him as a winfinite. I have quite a few options (TA Hulk, Quake, Skrull, Venom etc.). Good that I asked - Not only I forgot the other options but also I like the idea of going of the meta a bit with that combo.

Mr_F

SCL 10 is a beast. The easy nodes went with Wasp/Proff/Yelena, the hard nodes with Polaris/BRB/Gamora. Gamora went out for featured. The challenge node... 1st attempt and Wolvie was down too fast. I switched him to Skrull and 2 more were done. But the Thing was the shine on last two. Enough HP to survive and winfinite on green is sweet.

All togheter it takes to much time. As for now I can go from time to time to clear SCL 10 but regularly is not an option yet. Although if... I will finish decently I may consider it.

As for now I have two event straight with SCL10: the current one to get more Electro Shards from placement and the next for her progression shards. I

shardwick

I can't see your roster but I would use Rocket, Polaris and Nico, and if you have it then put Carol's Communicator on the one that tanks the most. Unstable Iso is pretty easy and goon heavy so you shouldn't have much of a problem clearing most of the nodes.

Mr_F

@shardwick LInk is in my signature. I will use Polaris, BRB and Thing for a winfinite. Communicator is on BRB,