Week 6 5* boost (Archangel, Gladiator Thor, 5* GhostRider, Samurai Daken)

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  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,275 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited June 2021
    The next 3 weeks should be settled, week 9 is not a good one for me:
    7) JJ, Beardcap Okoye, Wasp,
    8) Loki, Kitty, Cable, KP, 
    9) GED, CM, Hela, Rescue, 
    However if they decide to double dip on Iceman boost week (and later on SamDak) then things start to get a bit chaotic.
    On the one hand they obviously made a manual adjustment to the order for Pride but on the other we have plenty of past evidence of characters featuring in events and then having things like PvP, CotT kept on schedule regardless of the event changes and only just having been featured. See 3* Daken PvP. I particularly remember they ran an Avengers themed PvP and as soon as I finished the Thor one I sold my 3* Thor who was max champed only for them to run it again in short succesion which caught me out.
    Edit: The more I think about it, the more I think Rescue *might* be my best covered of that mob in week 9 and that makes me wonder: what does she even do? Something with shields? That must be able to be made to work with somebody.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    BRB is probably her best partner.

    Based on my memory, she has:

    1) a cheap red (6ap) that strikes twice under certain condition
    2) 9 blue ap power that steals three enemy SAP tiles and turn the rest red, so you have a sea of red.
    3) ?? ap yellow that turns friendly strike/attack into protect tiles.
    4) a passive yellow that gives team burst heal every turn  if you have 2 or 3 friendly protect tiles on the board.

    I like her blue ability the most, but her red power is meh. Yellow passive is fine. I'm not sure how much her team heal would be but it could be irritating.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    Rescue is great with a blue generator to turn all enemy specials red, which depending on the opponent can be very dramatic. She was weak on launch, and then immediately superseded as a red multi-tapper by apocalypse, but boosted she might be fun.
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,275 Chairperson of the Boards
    I have a champed BRB so worth a chuckle.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    Boosted, it’s probably worth using her with Apocalypse. Her red strikes 3 times with enough friendly specials in play, and she has passive burst heal
  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,828 Chairperson of the Boards
    I think the answer to "it takes too long to kill the boosted characters if I don't have them" is "get the boosted characters."

    The meta has changed, except this time it's not a new Latest that changed it.  When players used to complain about not having whatever new character took over the game, people would say it was their own fault for not keeping up, or not hoarding enough to get the new guy.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    The experience of having most of the 5s boosted in a given week vs one or none is pretty night and day. At least since the boost list is "known" to a degree (compared to the 4* boost list), you can kind of target every 4th 5* to try to get at least one for every block of boosted characters. But growing a 5* is still pretty non-trivial in terms of calendar time if you don't have one at all, or you have less than 10 covers. It took me about 125 days to grind 3 covers directly on Havok just chasing shards for an unfed older character (and now that I've done that, I STILL haven't used him lol), and I have a pretty good roster relative to most for spitting out rewards I'd guess. So I'm kind of leery of the "just go get them if you need them" advice, because you kind of can't really.
  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,434 Chairperson of the Boards
    The experience of having most of the 5s boosted in a given week vs one or none is pretty night and day. At least since the boost list is "known" to a degree (compared to the 4* boost list), you can kind of target every 4th 5* to try to get at least one for every block of boosted characters. But growing a 5* is still pretty non-trivial in terms of calendar time if you don't have one at all, or you have less than 10 covers. It took me about 125 days to grind 3 covers directly on Havok just chasing shards for an unfed older character (and now that I've done that, I STILL haven't used him lol), and I have a pretty good roster relative to most for spitting out rewards I'd guess. So I'm kind of leery of the "just go get them if you need them" advice, because you kind of can't really.
    Exactly.  This is absolutely not a "just go get them" mobile game.  Most mobile games you can easily pick and choose the characters you want to focus on.  This one requires a LOT of luck and a LOT of time.  You can't really even "buy" your way to champ a 5* from the past.
  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,828 Chairperson of the Boards
    The experience of having most of the 5s boosted in a given week vs one or none is pretty night and day. At least since the boost list is "known" to a degree (compared to the 4* boost list), you can kind of target every 4th 5* to try to get at least one for every block of boosted characters. But growing a 5* is still pretty non-trivial in terms of calendar time if you don't have one at all, or you have less than 10 covers. It took me about 125 days to grind 3 covers directly on Havok just chasing shards for an unfed older character (and now that I've done that, I STILL haven't used him lol), and I have a pretty good roster relative to most for spitting out rewards I'd guess. So I'm kind of leery of the "just go get them if you need them" advice, because you kind of can't really.
    I agree that it's always been terrible advice to say "go get them if you need them," because it's difficult to get them.

    When I complained about Gambit being too good, the answer people gave me was "why didn't you hoard enough to cover Gambit, you should have been prepared for this, every important character in the metagame comes as a new Latest."

    It's been the same response from that crowd regarding every other meta character.  So now that the shoe is on the other foot and the hoarders/all-in folks are screwed, I'll offer them the same advice.
  • Captain_Trips88
    Captain_Trips88 Posts: 268 Mover and Shaker
    Been happy with the first few weeks of boosted 5s and it has been great fun bringing ghost rider back out as he was either second or third 5* I champed. Hoarding black ap before unleashing 100k of damage is quite fun 
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    I dont' really know what the solution is; I like the boost list because I have enough champs I'm never totally flatfooted, but I think these newer power creep 5*s are going to be a total bloodbath whether you have them or not. iHulk week is going to be a sight to see.
  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,434 Chairperson of the Boards
    Alliance minimum PVP scores are going to be tough to keep.  There is no way I am going to commitment to a score in all PVPs as there are some I just won't want to put time into based on the boosted 5*s.
  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,828 Chairperson of the Boards
    Alliance minimum PVP scores are going to be tough to keep.  There is no way I am going to commitment to a score in all PVPs as there are some I just won't want to put time into based on the boosted 5*s.
    I think if your alliance is forcing you to do something that's not fun, it's time to find a new alliance.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    My alliance is so laid back, we're horizontal. I may as well be playing single player. I have a couple IRL coworkers in it though, and I'm not really into enforcing minimums, so it doesn't bother me.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    Now that Thor is boosted though, is anyone doing anything non-traditional with him at full health? I respecc'd mine to 5/3/5, and have been running him with Heimdall. Thor is still very slow until he hits 50% health, but mine is doing ~66k damage on that second firing of Yellow which is pretty non-trivial actually. His base level is 450. I also attempted running him with iHulk just to see what that might look like, thinking that the green tile feed would be helpful. It wasn't really anything to write home about. 
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    Playing a bit with my baby champed daken. Still he is slow and it looks less effective than the other 3. I had to switch to a faster meta team but it was funny to play him starting climbing..
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    I like old man Daken if the enemy makes SAP tiles, or has an annoying healer, but he is pretty low damage with a not too effective heal for being truly good.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    I like OMD's black ability. At 569, each passive repeater deals ~15380 damage, and he converts 3 black ap to red. Focus on collecting black ap, I guess. Unfortunately, my OMD is so terribly covered that it's doesn't make sense to use him against ~580 opponents. 

    1/2 Thor being boosted made quick work against 130k to 170k health opponents. It took me about 2 minutes on average to win a match again them. Thor/Archangel is really common, followed by Thor/GR, which isn't much. 
  • atomzed
    atomzed Posts: 1,753 Chairperson of the Boards
    I used AA + Thor from 700 and climb to 1200. My AA tanks green, black and blue, while Thor tanks red and yellow. I try to avoid matching Thor’s colour and it work surprisingly well. 

    I can’t believe that I will see AA being use “competitively” in PVP!
  • Tony_Foot
    Tony_Foot Posts: 1,812 Chairperson of the Boards
    atomzed said:


    I can’t believe that I will see AA being use “competitively” in PVP!
    And that’s the clue that the boost is too high. The games a mess when you don’t have a pair of boosted.