That CL10 challenge node is...

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  • optimus2861
    optimus2861 Posts: 1,233 Chairperson of the Boards
    I only picked SCL 10 this time so I could smash through the easy nodes and still get a 4* cover and some 5* shards. Even the 5E nodes are horrendous. 
  • Mayo
    Mayo Posts: 156 Tile Toppler
    Bad said:
    Truth is I appreciate those challenges. Some of them proved that some 4* like kraven and thanos can be deadly and just force to clear it with a tramp user or whatever but a special tiles user.
    Wolfsbane too deals a lot of damage.
    Even loki 3* show me I understimed him with his trucks turning all the board filled with BRB protects into strike enemy tiles. That was epic!
    Updating and changing characters on pve what does in the end is changing the event.
    I would encourage devs to change some chars on other events, if doing so storytelling is not affected.
    Any character at the levels of scl10 will hurt, see no purpose on playing a game focused on making the player consume resources giving no real challenge at all.

    No motivated to spend time like this. 

    Not even done 60% of all nodes and still near t50 in scl10 so this is a mayor problem for many players.

    Let's hope next pve is not more of this. 
  • Feliz
    Feliz Posts: 180 Tile Toppler
    I love being forced to use new characters, provided I have a chance, but I don't in this story 
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mayo said:
    Not even done 60% of all nodes and still near t50 in scl10 so this is a mayor problem for many players.

    Let's hope next pve is not more of this. 
    Well, personally I enjoyed each and one of the challenges. And I did better than the usual, ranking above 50.
    Furthermore on round 3 I saw 2 fellow forumers(to the point I know) like 20 ranks above me.
    So it seems like it can be done.
  • jp1
    jp1 Posts: 1,081 Chairperson of the Boards
    Bad said:
    Mayo said:
    Not even done 60% of all nodes and still near t50 in scl10 so this is a mayor problem for many players.

    Let's hope next pve is not more of this. 
    Well, personally I enjoyed each and one of the challenges. And I did better than the usual, ranking above 50.
    Furthermore on round 3 I saw 2 fellow forumers(to the point I know) like 20 ranks above me.
    So it seems like it can be done.
    I took rank 60 or so and that was skipping a lot of nodes on day 3. Not saying it can’t be done, and I’m glad you enjoyed it. It felt agonizing to me playing that event. 

    On a more positive note, due to how ridiculous that one was, the current event feels like SCL 9 so much I had to check I didn’t choose incorrectly.
  • jp1
    jp1 Posts: 1,081 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yeah that node is annoying, but I can mirror that and take Kitty or Medusa and make short (long) work of it.
  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,946 Chairperson of the Boards
    OJSP said:
    jp1 said:
    I took rank 60 or so and that was skipping a lot of nodes on day 3. Not saying it can’t be done, and I’m glad you enjoyed it. It felt agonizing to me playing that event. 

    On a more positive note, due to how ridiculous that one was, the current event feels like SCL 9 so much I had to check I didn’t choose incorrectly.
    Wait for Brooklyn Bridge's challenge node with BRB and Carnage.
    There's like 1 node out of all the CNs and essentials that is really bad.  Some of the essentials vs Carnage are pretty annoying (mostly due to time needed due to attack tiles/floating dmg numbers), and the 5E with Sandman/Venom/Doc Ock is a bit tricky.  But nothing like Simulator.

    Also, subs 1 and 2 of VB are actually pretty easy.  It's 3 and 4 when you start wishing it was over already.
  • Mayo
    Mayo Posts: 156 Tile Toppler
    Bad said:
    Mayo said:
    Not even done 60% of all nodes and still near t50 in scl10 so this is a mayor problem for many players.

    Let's hope next pve is not more of this. 
    Well, personally I enjoyed each and one of the challenges. And I did better than the usual, ranking above 50.
    Furthermore on round 3 I saw 2 fellow forumers(to the point I know) like 20 ranks above me.
    So it seems like it can be done.
    As I have stated several times, the problem with most answers are selfish ones focused on what top players can manage. You saw 3 cases of people doing good scoring, i scored t100 in scl10 and did not see many names i usually see but the bottomline is not what position was scored but how many nodes had to be left behind because of the way the pve was given to all players. I would have preferred to Score t200 and accept other players had better ability to win but this is not the case. Events like this that prey on heavy use of resources to advance AND added enemy health pools so high for broken teams to beat you unless you have high levelled meta characters will eventually chip away all motivation from play.
    I myself will not buy any stark this month as I already bought currency for another challenging and better balanced game which i usually did not invest in because i needed my game rig but with forced quarantine new options for playing other games come easy and guiltyless. 
  • 0_Fahrenheit
    0_Fahrenheit Posts: 24 Just Dropped In
    The problem it’s not totally the difficulty of the nodes but that you have to do them over and over.
    The simulator could be the real change to highlight the puzzle side of the game.

    They could keep the first 6 nodes as usual: 6/6
    And then trasform the 3 nodes with the required cover + the green one (or the 4 nodes in the other SL) into 1 round puzzle match.
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    The problem it’s not totally the difficulty of the nodes but that you have to do them over and over.
    The simulator could be the real change to highlight the puzzle side of the game.

    They could keep the first 6 nodes as usual: 6/6
    And then trasform the 3 nodes with the required cover + the green one (or the 4 nodes in the other SL) into 1 round puzzle match.
    Yup, this what I mean when I say difficulty only sucks because of extrinsic factors.  Grinding + extremely challenging nodes is not fun.
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mayo said:
    As I have stated several times, the problem with most answers are selfish ones focused on what top players can manage. 
    I myself will not buy any stark this month as I already bought currency for another challenging and better balanced game which i usually did not invest in because i needed my game rig but with forced quarantine new options for playing other games come easy and guiltyless. 
    You can always do another bombing review. That is kind of selfish too. The only problem with that is once you lowered once you cant still lowering towards negative.
  • Feliz
    Feliz Posts: 180 Tile Toppler
    Sounds like you've found your game Mayo. Mine is MPQ ;)
  • Mayo
    Mayo Posts: 156 Tile Toppler
    Bad said:
    Mayo said:
    As I have stated several times, the problem with most answers are selfish ones focused on what top players can manage. 
    I myself will not buy any stark this month as I already bought currency for another challenging and better balanced game which i usually did not invest in because i needed my game rig but with forced quarantine new options for playing other games come easy and guiltyless. 
    You can always do another bombing review. That is kind of selfish too. The only problem with that is once you lowered once you cant still lowering towards negative.
    It is not a bombing review, Just an appreciation bases in facts selfish would be to say how great this game is doing for everyone when that is not true. I still play mpq Just that now i will not focus si much resources as before.

    Obviously this games priority is to milk players dry but the approach is short sighted. No matter if you invest a lot or near to nothing, when the game is gone you lose time and every thing and all my reviews aim to have a long lasting game funded by a bigger player place rather than a small group of players.

    If I do bad in a pve and rank lower or lose 40% of the possible attainable resources I can take the blame easily but if I get that performance and even then I get the same position as always and my alliance is t50 when that is not the recent mode is a good guess that there are many player very pissed about it and the last time I recall a game has to be fun and challenging to attract players and not be an automated trolling system where you can not play 1/3 of the content or more unless you have to play for boosts and have high levelled specific characters to even try several nodes.

    For now playing for progression and nothing more. 


  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    Is Mayo in 4* land or 5* land? How is MPQ milking players dry? 
  • Mayo
    Mayo Posts: 156 Tile Toppler
    Feliz said:
    Sounds like you've found your game Mayo. Mine is MPQ ;)
    I still will play for progression or when i have to travel and need to kill time but I like playing a game where currencies can be used to advance when needed and are not stored forever, trolling events / bosses are corrected asap, can trade almost every thing between players, communication from developers is fluid and best of all: you can play totally free with the same basic consesions as paying players.

    Good games make you happy (Feliz 😜), not stressed so mpq has still its place in my day, Just that now i don't care as much to a level I will probably will not be collaborating much more in the forums as I see it is futile✌🏻

    Cheers! 
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    Mayo said:
    It is not a bombing review, 

    Obviously this games priority is to milk players dry but the approach is short sighted. No matter if you invest a lot or near to nothing, when the game is gone you lose time and every thing and all my reviews aim to have a long lasting game funded by a bigger player place rather than a small group of players.


    On the thread "I spy rewards- new design?" you said:"1 step forward, 2 steps back, all in the name of profit and wasting the users real life time. This game being play to avance should at least reduce player stress. Time to lower the game rating again it seems."
    I would say that is bombing review. Now you can say whatever and as Im still sucking my thumb surely I will believe you.
    Maybe what you are meaning with the game funded by a bigger group instead of a small group is that players that are above you on ranking stop playing for you can get more rewards. I would say that is a selfish argument too.
    I thought I already had a father, now it seems you will be my new one for to tell me how much I have to play and when.
    Cheers!
  • Mayo
    Mayo Posts: 156 Tile Toppler
    Is Mayo in 4* land or 5* land? How is MPQ milking players dry? 
    I am a transitioning player, need to champ 15 more 4* and have 6+ champed 5*s all at or bellow 460. 

    Lots of examples:
    1. I belong to the buy club and the few weeks with the changes in releases have only made that the same people buy more than usual to keep up being competitive which only will aggravate players that will not up their purchases. It is not good being attacked by 500-550 players in pvp having no opportunity to retaliate succesfully and doing the same en pve is Just sinister. 
    2. In addition to requiring specific characters at certain high levels for some nodes you also need to use máx or lots of boosts and even then you can lose with a bad board. 
    3. Broken systems that do not work such as riso / supports. Why not take them away until they are retooled as done with alliance events and ST? Because:
    4. For months all resources have been reduced or converted to currencies that sit useless in your account or only stimulate more expenditure such as shards. I have more tha 5000 shards shared in characters I never will use, bh gave me covers which at the least I could accumulate until I could champ in the short run. Playing for 2 years with the bh system and I got many more 5* covers than with shards for example and i do not hoard. 

    I myself used to support the game every month, recently i almost doubled my expenditure Just for health packs, boosts and shielding for position. Last month i started to play for progression and cut expenditure and still enjoy the game. 

    I am not against investing in games but the least a consumer needs is a healthy enviroment, for dependant relationships i already have my fiance 😅😂. The money i invest in leisure has not changed but now has been redirected to better game experience for now. Other team mates have already left the game or are near burnout as myself. 

    Another change will be my contributions to this forum, i Just realized it alienates other contributors and i don't like repeating myself for nothing.

    Everyone has their own opinion and expectations for this game so i hope the game owner does the best he can to reach his goals and that those goals intersect as much as possible with the players supporting him. 


    Cheers! 


  • Mayo
    Mayo Posts: 156 Tile Toppler
    edited June 2020
    Bad said:
    Mayo said:
    It is not a bombing review, 

    Obviously this games priority is to milk players dry but the approach is short sighted. No matter if you invest a lot or near to nothing, when the game is gone you lose time and every thing and all my reviews aim to have a long lasting game funded by a bigger player place rather than a small group of players.


    On the thread "I spy rewards- new design?" you said:"1 step forward, 2 steps back, all in the name of profit and wasting the users real life time. This game being play to avance should at least reduce player stress. Time to lower the game rating again it seems."
    I would say that is bombing review. Now you can say whatever and as Im still sucking my thumb surely I will believe you.
    Maybe what you are meaning with the game funded by a bigger group instead of a small group is that players that are above you on ranking stop playing for you can get more rewards. I would say that is a selfish argument too.
    I thought I already had a father, now it seems you will be my new one for to tell me how much I have to play and when.
    Cheers!
    The review i did is true and is something that follows a patern

    We get back alliance events with less rewards
    Nodes that gave covers are downgraded
    Shards that get assigned to characters you will probably use 15 days a year in a pvp or pvp
    Supports that you can not upgrade past lvl 3 but still getting loads of red iso
    Releasing scl10 but if you play it you will spend at least double the time you used in other scls. 
    And the list goes on.

    Is any of the above not 1 step forward and 2 back?

    I do not need higher levels to get more rewards, i am fine playing for progression pve. I even lmao when i read some high level players do not like losing because they levelled up to much their thorkoye meta or because of bishop. 

    Scale economy is the healthiest way to manage services, why coca cola and Mac Donalds where the first in China? Because 4 billions chinesse buying 1 Bottle or burger a week at 20% market penetration gives more money than probably any country in the World. Likewise, is 10% of players invest 200usd better than having 80% investing 50usd? Do you think my arguments are for the player base? Happy players will be more likely to invest 50usd, stressed players don't and that is a fact. 

    The messages are not for you but for the owners of the game, they are free to do what they want and each player has the freedom to choose what they do.

    That does not change the fact that when this game ends the game owner will launch another game and players will lose all the money invested and the time wasted to stay top dog instead of having good time with family, friends or in personal growth.

    Freedom of choice all the way mate, do not take it personal and try not to defend someone that probably does not know you, does not care about you and probably will pass you by in the street if you call him for help. 
  • Feliz
    Feliz Posts: 180 Tile Toppler
    edited June 2020
    Help! Last day reallyl ike hell in spirits of vengeance. Medusa, dog and blackbolt killing me, any ideas?

    Admittedly my Apocalypse far from champed...