**** Mysterio (Quentin Beck) ****

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  • peterdarkpeterdark Posts: 126 Tile Toppler
    You could probably solo win with his purple and self fuelling but it would take such a loooong time with that damage
  • jameshjamesh Posts: 1,410 Chairperson of the Boards
    MrEd95 said:
    Do his trap tiles do damage if matched by the enemy as well? If so, he could be a bit better.
    The description doesn't mention which team needs to match or destroy the tile, so it should trigger for both.  And since it says "match or destroy", so they will trigger in situations where e.g. Daredevil or Elektra's tiles would simply be gone.
  • bluewolfbluewolf Posts: 3,271 Chairperson of the Boards
    @Brigby
    S.H.I.E.L.D. Training - New Character Event
    • Starts: 7/4/19, 07:00am ET
    • Ends: 7/11/19, 07:00am ET
    • Rewards tokens to Webbed Wonder, Random cover of Mysterio (Quentin Beck), and more
    I'm pretty sure that the Shield Training will reward Unstable Iso-8 tokens, since there won't be a Webbed Wonder store/vault, but the "Mysterio and Friends" vault this time around.  And since that's the way all prior ST's have worked (giving out tokens to the event store that is part of the new release PVE).
  • WarbringaWarbringa Posts: 1,022 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2
    AP manipulation makes him way better than people think.  We already have great damage dealers in the 4* tier.  Blue to yellow conversion and yellow to purple conversion is unique.  He will have his place.

    Would pair well with Red Hulk I think.  Feed Red Hulk's purple easily and then crush away.

    If you had someone with an amazing yellow power, you could feed it with him and Bishop very quickly...

    Would 5* Doom, Mysterio and Bishop be a possible endless team?  Bishop provides the blue, Mysterio converts it to yellow and Doom heals everyone and reshuffles the board every other turn or so?
  • LavaManLeeLavaManLee Posts: 347 Mover and Shaker
    Did I miss something or do we have to pay HP for this upcoming Shield Training?  Don't think I've seen this before:

    "S.H.I.E.L.D. Training - Heroes for Hire
    • Starts: 7/4/19, 07:00am ET
    • Ends: 7/11/19, 07:00am ET
    • Cost: 7,000 Hero Points"
  • BorstockBorstock Posts: 1,207 Chairperson of the Boards
    So.... if you paired him and Bishop together, does that get even more annoying than usual, or is it still just annoying?
  • TPF AlexisTPF Alexis Posts: 3,322 Chairperson of the Boards
    Doesn't look great, but he does look like he could be fun, in an annoying sort of way. Certainly seems like a fitting power set.
    The description for his purple, tho, says "With the wind ever at his back...", which seems wrong. It would make his cape billow much more dramatically if it were coming from a front quarter ;)
  • JormagundJormagund Posts: 65 Match Maker
    edited July 2
    Did I miss something or do we have to pay HP for this upcoming Shield Training?  Don't think I've seen this before:

    "S.H.I.E.L.D. Training - Heroes for Hire
    • Starts: 7/4/19, 07:00am ET
    • Ends: 7/11/19, 07:00am ET
    • Cost: 7,000 Hero Points"
    That's Heroes for Hire, so the shop.  Pay 7,000HP for two four star covers involved in the training.  The training is still free.
  • LavaManLeeLavaManLee Posts: 347 Mover and Shaker
    Jormagund said:
    Did I miss something or do we have to pay HP for this upcoming Shield Training?  Don't think I've seen this before:

    "S.H.I.E.L.D. Training - Heroes for Hire
    • Starts: 7/4/19, 07:00am ET
    • Ends: 7/11/19, 07:00am ET
    • Cost: 7,000 Hero Points"
    That's Heroes for Hire, so the shop.  Pay 7,000HP for two four star covers involved in the training.  The training is still free.
    Thanks!  Wasn't understanding it.
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 3,234 Chairperson of the Boards
    I think we're about to see some Mysterio/Bishop/Okoye teams out there. 
  • YepyepYepyep Posts: 642 Critical Contributor
    edited July 2
    ...
    Also, some noteworthy team possibilities:
    Bishop - generates blue, which gets converted to yellow. Misty's yellow can help make Bishop generate more blue, or Bishop's yellow can generate more blue.
    ...
    How does he do anything but negate Bishop's single greatest asset: his blue stun? According the @Brigby, Mysterio's blue power does this: "if Mysterio has 8 or more Blue AP, convert 5 Blue AP to Yellow" -- but Bishop's blue stun requires 10 blue AP.

    EDITED: I meant to ask if your second sentence was maybe a typo -- I don't think Mysterio helps Bishop generate  more blue. Maybe I'm spacing on something...?

    This character is a gimmick. But a gimmick like Talos, not like Jubilee, I fear... (To be fair, Jubilee is pretty great when boosted. It's just that her powers read is gimmicky, like Mysterio's also do.)
  • WarbringaWarbringa Posts: 1,022 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 2
    Yepyep said:
    ...
    Also, some noteworthy team possibilities:
    Bishop - generates blue, which gets converted to yellow. Misty's yellow can help make Bishop generate more blue, or Bishop's yellow can generate more blue.
    ...
    How does he do anything but negate Bishop's single greatest asset: his blue stun? According the @Brigby, Mysterio's blue power does this: "if Mysterio has 8 or more Blue AP, convert 5 Blue AP to Yellow" -- but Bishop's blue stun requires 10 blue AP.

    EDITED: I meant to ask if your second sentence was maybe a typo -- I don't think Mysterio helps Bishop generate  more blue. Maybe I'm spacing on something...?

    This character is a gimmick. But a gimmick like Talos, not like Jubilee, I fear... (To be fair, Jubilee is pretty great when boosted. It's just that her powers read is gimmicky, like Mysterio's also do.)

    Not quite correct.  Bishop's best ability is the massive blue AP he can generate very quickly and in large chunks.  It happens that he also has a great use for that blue AP in a great stun however if you can find a combo that utilizes that blue AP better or with Mysterio, utilize that once blue AP into yellow AP better, that is what people are considering right now. 

    It may be he doesn't work as well with Bishop as people think but there have been many characters originally panned on the forums and then found out to be amazing.  .
  • VhailorxVhailorx Posts: 4,095 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited July 3
    Mysterio does have some unique abilities, so I expect there will be some interesting synergies.

    But none of them seem remotely competitive for pve or PvP (his AP tricks all take too long to be meta, and nothing else he does is particularly interesting).  So he is a trick character like old devil dino at best.

    Still seems low/mid tier even if he isn't pure trash.

  • AndiTiAndiTi Posts: 81 Match Maker
    Definitely a fun character for the transitioner, or the casual player. Lots of interesting stuff with his kit. Lots of opportunities for pairing, especially down to 3* characters. There is a place for those kind of 4*s in the game.

    Unfortuntely, that’s not me anymore. But, it doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be fun for a while on someone else’s roster. 
  • DeNappaDeNappa Posts: 919 Critical Contributor
    Interesting toolkit, I'm curious how it will work out in practice. Seems like some nifty teams could be constructed with him.

    Warbringa said:
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    Would pair well with Red Hulk I think.  Feed Red Hulk's purple easily and then crush away.
    <snip>
    I thought about that too, but it seems a bit too slow because you will first have to get his yellow tile out before yellow matches generate purple. 
  • AXP_ismeAXP_isme Posts: 579 Critical Contributor
    Doesn't look great, but he does look like he could be fun, in an annoying sort of way. Certainly seems like a fitting power set.
    The description for his purple, tho, says "With the wind ever at his back...", which seems wrong. It would make his cape billow much more dramatically if it were coming from a front quarter ;)
    I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought this! 
  • MirrorKnightMirrorKnight Posts: 51 Match Maker
    5/5/3
    Yepyep said:
    ...
    Also, some noteworthy team possibilities:
    Bishop - generates blue, which gets converted to yellow. Misty's yellow can help make Bishop generate more blue, or Bishop's yellow can generate more blue.
    ...
    I meant to ask if your second sentence was maybe a typo -- I don't think Mysterio helps Bishop generate  more blue. Maybe I'm spacing on something...?

    The way I read Mysterio's yellow, it should be able to damage Bishop, and help him generate additional blue AP
  • YepyepYepyep Posts: 642 Critical Contributor
    Yepyep said:
    ...
    Also, some noteworthy team possibilities:
    Bishop - generates blue, which gets converted to yellow. Misty's yellow can help make Bishop generate more blue, or Bishop's yellow can generate more blue.
    ...
    I meant to ask if your second sentence was maybe a typo -- I don't think Mysterio helps Bishop generate  more blue. Maybe I'm spacing on something...?

    The way I read Mysterio's yellow, it should be able to damage Bishop, and help him generate additional blue AP
    Interesting -- so helps generate blue indirectly. Could be.

    The "stealing" of "bursts of health" is new, I believe. It will be interesting if that counts as damage in-match (relevant to generating Bishop's blue). It also is interesting in that facing off against Mysterio will be less expensive vis-à-vis health packs as that stolen health should reappear post-match.
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