card effects: needed animations and superfluous animations (pt 2)

starfallstarfall Posts: 1,081 Chairperson of the Boards
edited 5:47PM in MtGPQ General Discussion
Continued from this thread:
https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/77026/card-effects-needed-animations-and-superfluous-animations/p1
Most of the animation issues from that thread have not been addressed, and it's a couple of months old now.

Let's add some more!

Gruul War Plow does something very interesting. If you have 3 creatures in play, it pumps up your first creature, and then pumps up creatures 2 and 3 *simultaneously*. (So does Ethereal Absolution)

We've already addressed in the previous thread how stream effects are superfluous, but in addition, pumping creatures simultaneously would also save a hell of a lot of time! Not just on Gruul War Plow, you understand, there are many other cards  that could benefit from it; The first that leaps to mind is the Combine Guildmage I'm currently mastering. I'm sure we players can think up a big old list of these things.

Edit: Other cards that buff one at a time:
  • High Alert
  • 'The Simic Combine' support in RT
  • Spawnsire of Ulamog
  • Plague Boiler
  • Crown of Convergence
  • End-Raze Forerunners
  • Song of Freyalise
  • Decimator of the Provinces
  • Sarkhan the Masterless

Comments

  • MatthewMatthew Posts: 576 Critical Contributor
    First one that comes to mind for me is Decimator of the Provinces. It buffs everything in sequence, when (apparently) it could just do them all in one go. That'd save me some time in the long run, as I use that card with some frequency.
  • Mburn7Mburn7 Posts: 2,570 Chairperson of the Boards
    Matthew said:
    First one that comes to mind for me is Decimator of the Provinces. It buffs everything in sequence, when (apparently) it could just do them all in one go. That'd save me some time in the long run, as I use that card with some frequency.
    Same issue with the Djinn that buffs on spellcast.  I've stopped using him specifically because the animation takes so long it triggers the LPS
  • TheDude1TheDude1 Posts: 162 Tile Toppler
    Can the mods merge in the other discussion posted in Bugs here: https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/comment/867326?

    Specific other instances:
    • Tolsimir Wolfblood's Voja token does the same thing that starfall is describing - it buffs one, then the other two creatures simultaneously
    • Jace Unraveler's ultimate buffs each creature individually on each card draw
    • Last time I used Ajani's Welcome and Valor in Akros they both buffed each creature individually
    Plenty of others that I would have taken note of had the other thread gotten any attention
  • andrewvanmarleandrewvanmarle Posts: 658 Critical Contributor
    just to repeat myself from the part 1 thread:

    having to click each ribbon before you cab continue after winning a game

    Not being able to all your packs in one go
  • wereotterwereotter Posts: 2,030 Chairperson of the Boards
    Not an animation, but related.... the death sound effect that will play multiple times when you kill a creature with multiple reinforcements.
  • starfallstarfall Posts: 1,081 Chairperson of the Boards
    How do people sit through that March of the Multitudes/Path of Discovery combo?! It takes forever.
  • TheDude1TheDude1 Posts: 162 Tile Toppler
    edited June 12
    starfall said:
    How do people sit through that March of the Multitudes/Path of Discovery combo?! It takes forever.
    To that end, can instances with multiple tokens entering the battlefield as one effect be consolidated into one combined entrance rather than being run individually?  I'm not advocating that they count as one ETB, but rather that all X entrances occur simultaneously, and all separate ETB effects accumulate into one big effect. 

    For example, for the March/Path combo, you would still get 12x the Explore from the tokens entering, but it would happen all at once (convert 24 gems one time) rather than 12 separate instances of converting 2 gems as each token enters separately.  Probably a slight nerf compared to the current mechanics, but a much better quality of life feature.
  • starfallstarfall Posts: 1,081 Chairperson of the Boards
    Here's an interesting thing I discovered today!

    Dovin, Grand Arbiter's 3rd ability reinforces your creatures twice with a single animation!

    Can we have literally anything that reinforces creatures do that as well, please?!
  • stikxsstikxs Posts: 360 Mover and Shaker
    edited June 18
    TheDude1 said:
    starfall said:
    How do people sit through that March of the Multitudes/Path of Discovery combo?! It takes forever.
    To that end, can instances with multiple tokens entering the battlefield as one effect be consolidated into one combined entrance rather than being run individually?  I'm not advocating that they count as one ETB, but rather that all X entrances occur simultaneously, and all separate ETB effects accumulate into one big effect. 

    For example, for the March/Path combo, you would still get 12x the Explore from the tokens entering, but it would happen all at once (convert 24 gems one time) rather than 12 separate instances of converting 2 gems as each token enters separately.  Probably a slight nerf compared to the current mechanics, but a much better quality of life feature.
    That could be a significant loss of loyalty/mana, possibly even moreso on a board that has a fair number of unchangeable gems as the cascades could open up more. I could see them also citing clarity as a problem ('how many were changed? was it really 2 per creature?'). Also with that you wouldn't ever get the explore buff as 24 changes will all but guarantee a match. But they could certainly speed the timing up. Maybe not on the auto setting but certainly on the 'skip' option. Like how fast supports come out currently with the 'skip' option set, change the gems that fast. And if you wanted to know what happened (not sure if the engine could handle this) but maybe there could be like a rewind button you could tap and hold and the last cascade would play in reverse, and maybe double tap the button to go back to 'live' like you would with your tv remote. Or instead of reverse the button could just change the board back to last swap and replay it a little slower.

    There is so much they could change to speed the game up, the 'skip' option is just a really inaccurate scratch at the surface.
  • TheDude1TheDude1 Posts: 162 Tile Toppler
    stikxs said:

    That could be a significant loss of loyalty/mana, possibly even moreso on a board that has a fair number of unchangeable gems as the cascades could open up more. I could see them also citing clarity as a problem ('how many were changed? was it really 2 per creature?'). Also with that you wouldn't ever get the explore buff as 24 changes will all but guarantee a match. 
    I guess I see all that as a feature, not a bug.  Put another way: if the original design was that all tokens ETB at once rather than the current one-at-a-time, I don't think anyone would believe there was a mana/loyalty "loss", it would just be the way it is.  You'd make different choices on your deck building, but I don't believe it would be generally viewed as a "problem".  It's a fundamentally different definition of how tokens/ETB would behave - not inaccurate, just different compared to the current.

    As it stands, this case is specific to Explore, which will likely rotate out of standard before any of these suggested changes would ever take place anyway.
  • starfallstarfall Posts: 1,081 Chairperson of the Boards
    When targeting Greg's PW multiple times, you need to wait for the animation to disappear before you can target him again.

    Examples: Avacyn's Judgment, casting multiple Beacon Bolts (which happens a lot!)
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