Avengers Vs. Ultron - Event Details (11/27/18)

zodiac339

Quebbster said:

ursopro said:

go dd/okoye/xfdp

let dd or okoye eat the bombs and xfdp kill Ultron

Just keep in mind that Ultron cannot be Stunned, so you won't be able to use DD's Purple unless there are enemy special tiles on the board. That question tends to be asked when there's a boss event...

Then XFDP purple. CD 4 Whaaaaaat!
For damage, that’s for what.

shardwick

Fellow people in 4* land don't forget to use Kraven on the side nodes. You can toss in Carnage if you want to get the parade of death going faster. Ahhh, Kraven, I no longer fear the Ultron sentries. As for Ultron I tried Carol and C/D but stupid Cloak and Dagger kept screwing up her yellow matches. Now trying Hulkbuster with C/D and XFDP and it's working well so far.

BigSoftieFF

shardwick said:

Fellow people in 4* land don't forget to use Kraven on the side nodes. You can toss in Carnage if you want to get the parade of death going faster. Ahhh, Kraven, I no longer fear the Ultron sentries. As for Ultron I tried Carol and C/D but stupid Cloak and Dagger kept screwing up her yellow matches. Now trying Hulkbuster with C/D and XFDP and it's working well so far.

Forgot about Kraven. Thanks for the reminder 😉 

DAZ0273

Well I've Hulkbusted Ultron's behind so far but I seem to remember those bombs get pretty hardcore in later rounds. 3* Widow can help but her red colour overlap with 'Busty isn't ideal. I guess I can dust off my 3/1/1 5* Widow and see how she does, she was bored on the bench anyway.

JackTenrec

In the possibly most Rube Goldbergian approach for this event's boosted list, I've been running FalCap, XFDP, Switch.  Use blue matches to accelerate Arcane Incantation, use purple to spam Countdown for What, watch Ultron detonate countdowns and himself (or if you eat a bomb, DP retaliations).

DAZ0273

JackTenrec said:

In the possibly most Rube Goldbergian approach for this event's boosted list, I've been running FalCap, XFDP, Switch.  Use blue matches to accelerate Arcane Incantation, use purple to spam Countdown for What, watch Ultron detonate countdowns and himself (or if you eat a bomb, DP retaliations).

I have to admit that I was trying to think of a way to use FalCap as he is boosted but most of my thoughts were in trying to get out his yellow and then red and really, who can be bothered?

However I do like your team there. I might not run it more than once but I am definitely giving that a try.

Daredevil217

DAZ0273 said:

JackTenrec said:

In the possibly most Rube Goldbergian approach for this event's boosted list, I've been running FalCap, XFDP, Switch.  Use blue matches to accelerate Arcane Incantation, use purple to spam Countdown for What, watch Ultron detonate countdowns and himself (or if you eat a bomb, DP retaliations).

I have to admit that I was trying to think of a way to use FalCap as he is boosted but most of my thoughts were in trying to get out his yellow and then red and really, who can be bothered?

However I do like your team there. I might not run it more than once but I am definitely giving that a try.

I've been using FalCap with half Thor.  Apparently I like living life on the edge, but I still have yet to have a cascade cause a bomb hit the bottom (though I've been close).  Right now, 4* Widow is my third as her yellow can bring down Divebomb's cost and I don't need the shields out to one shot Ultron (yet).  Mine was doing over 20k.  Carol with 2 black batteries (Clagger, Fist, Domino, etc.) is probably going to be needed in later rounds, but for now, yeah I'm trying out other folks while I can.

bluewolf

DAZ0273 said:

It seems a shame that the 5E characters weren't updated with the newer Avengers released on the boost list - Thor and Infini-Cap.

Not that it will stop anyone using Thor but Infini-Cap is missing his time to shine! Punching bosses is what he is good at! I see Widow got her way, the sly sneak that she is! What does poor Cap have to do? He deserves to punch things too!

I loved this comment and just wanted to lament that the boosts for bosses are so minimal in the 5 tier.  A champed CapIW is just as useful, boosted or not, in boss battles.  Although Ultron doesn’t have any ill effects from using Cap’s purple.

DAZ0273

bluewolf said:

DAZ0273 said:

It seems a shame that the 5E characters weren't updated with the newer Avengers released on the boost list - Thor and Infini-Cap.

Not that it will stop anyone using Thor but Infini-Cap is missing his time to shine! Punching bosses is what he is good at! I see Widow got her way, the sly sneak that she is! What does poor Cap have to do? He deserves to punch things too!

I loved this comment and just wanted to lament that the boosts for bosses are so minimal in the 5 tier.  A champed CapIW is just as useful, boosted or not, in boss battles.  Although Ultron doesn’t have any ill effects from using Cap’s purple.

So you are saying that Infini-Cap doesn't deserve to feel special then? It isn't about how many levels he gets, it is about him feeling that he *matters*. He is good at punching bosses but everybody is all ,"Oh I'm using Thorkoye" or whatever that unholy combination is called. Why can't he get to be n that first column? I can't "love" your comment because of it's crass hatred of Cap. I hope you can sleep at night (probably not because you are holding your "I hate Infini-Cap" weekly meeting then). 

DAZ0273

Or maybe...😉

shardwick

DAZ0273 said:

Well I've Hulkbusted Ultron's behind so far but I seem to remember those bombs get pretty hardcore in later rounds. 3* Widow can help but her red colour overlap with 'Busty isn't ideal. I guess I can dust off my 3/1/1 5* Widow and see how she does, she was bored on the bench anyway.

When I was in 3* land I used Switch, 3* Widow at 5/3/5 and IM40. It takes a little while to beat him, and it can be a little tricky to pull off, but I beat him with that team on round 8. About to finish him off if in my next two fights on round 8 with Carol, C/D and Hulkbuster but I'll probably use my 3* team tomorrow when I'm just screwing around and don't care about losing.

For anyone that wants some strategy for that team I try to get IM40's tiles to go off near the top. Use Widow's red to clear out bombs. Use her purples to make straight match 4s if you need to clear out some hard to reach bombs if your red isn't ready otherwise try to connect as many greens as possible. When you have a clear board use her green. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Nick441234

Tony_Foot said:

Thor okoye Chavez, rare a bomb got in the bottom half before it was over. Please push the button on saturdays for the next pve 

No, thank you. 

A) not everyone finishes as quickly. 

B ) even people who have finished, like myself, like time off from this game without having to worry about clears. 

sambrookjm

Dormammu said:

In the late Ultron rounds I've always used Hulkbuster with 3Cyclops and 3Fist. Cyclops can make red and Fist can make black, which HB can convert to more red. Then I simply repulser-punch Ultron into next week. You'll occasionally eat a countdown on a slow board but HB can take it with his boosted health (you don't want to get caught with either of the other two out front though).

For difficult side nodes full of Sentries, I remember having great success with 3Hawkeye and Medusa - they'll make the Sentries pay for everything they'll do.

I've used Nightcrawler in place of Iron Fist.  The purple's more expensive, but fire it off after you use either Hulkbuster's blue or Cyclops's yellow, and you can regularly get 25+ red AP.  More often than not, there will be match 4 and 5 that can take our rows/columns as well.  Plus, there's always the possibility of InfiniBAMF.  Sadly,  Nightcrawler can't take a bomb hit either.

I respec Cyclops to 3/5/5 and Hulkbuster to 5/3/5 for this fight/team only, as the whole point of this team is to get red on the board.

Nick441234

Tony_Foot said:

Nick441234 said:

Tony_Foot said:

Thor okoye Chavez, rare a bomb got in the bottom half before it was over. Please push the button on saturdays for the next pve 

No, thank you. 

A) not everyone finishes as quickly. 

B ) even people who have finished, like myself, like time off from this game without having to worry about clears. 

No one would be forcing you to play it and if you didn’t you wouldn’t be losing out because you’re not getting it now. Same as I never play a single LR. 

Just as no one is forcing you to sit on the game all weekend. Do something else. 

Nick441234

Tony_Foot said:

So because you don’t want to play the game no one else should, er ok.

So because you finish the event early they should open up a new one so you have something to do, er ok. 

bluewolf

In all the time I’ve played (3 1/2 years) the only not-precisely-on-the-same-schedule things have been:

1. One new release during the week (not a weekend)

2. One day of no pve (Sunday) when they ran 2 3-day events in the same 7 day cycle

3.  2? 3? 7-day events that ran through a Thursday.

Let’s say they put some more events in on Saturday during boss events.    A couple results:
1.  People who aren’t in alliances could play these side events.  the developers don’t want that; they want active alliances, and boss events encourage that. 
 2.  People who are already done with Ultron will be able to play these side events, while other people are still struggling, so they get further ahead of the players already behind them, having milked the boss rewards already.

The devs always launch a Sunday event that overlaps the last day of bosses, and even high level ally’s are probably playing some of Saturday, so there really isn’t that much “downtime” in terms of pve. There’s always Simulator or other pvp.  Or a bunch of other fun games. Or actual real life fun and responsibilities....

jamesh

That's probably the cheapest loss I've seen in this event: Ultron destroyed the bottom row, resulting in a board with no available matches.  When the board reshuffled, there were three bombs on the bottom row.  With round 8 damage, that was enough to take out my entire team before I could do anything about it.

sambrookjm

jamesh said:

That's probably the cheapest loss I've seen in this event: Ultron destroyed the bottom row, resulting in a board with no available matches.  When the board reshuffled, there were three bombs on the bottom row.  With round 8 damage, that was enough to take out my entire team before I could do anything about it.

I've had that happen on earlier rounds...and yeah, it's terrible.  I was lucky enough to have a team that could each survive one bomb hit at LVL 8 (Champed 5-star Widow, Champed 5-star Thor, and Boosted Hulkbuster.)  One match I finished up with Thor at 118 health left after a bomb and cascades nearly took him out.  Fortunately, that supercharged Widow's black, letting her ability do about 26K in damage and take Ultron out.

While I'd like to see something preventing that, it is such a corner case that the devs trying to fix it would probably result in breaking a few things that happen more frequently with the board shuffling algorithm.

jamesh

It's the first time I've wiped this way, so I agree it probably isn't worth trying to code a fix for.

With that said, if they were going to change the behaviour, one option would be to keep the bomb locations fixed during the reshuffle.  They do that for the horsemen tiles in the Apocalypse event, but I'm not sure how easy it'd be to reuse that logic.

Vins2

The latest boss events, Sinister 6 and Apocalypse, had a personal max progression of 900k and an alliance max progression of 6 million.  Will the older boss events ever be adjusted to that total, down from the old standard 1.2 million for individual / 9.7 million alliance?    This doesn't affect me, but I remember years ago how dire it felt to grind repeatedly for that last 4 star cover in round 7.