Galactus' Super-Nuke

skittledaddy

I couldn't find this anywhere else in the forum. Apologies if I missed it...

Can Galactus' 28- Black Super-Nuke be avoided in any way?

If you're airborne?

Is it considered an AoE , thus allowing Nightcrawler to avoid?
If it's not considered AoE, then can you avoid it by being invisible?

jredd

down him before it fires...

Dragon_Nexus

I'm trying to remember if it does 1,000,000 points AoE still or if they changed it to a code that just kills your characters regardless of what state they're in.

shardwick

Probably works like Deadpool's super whales where it ends the fight instantly no matter what. I believe that it mentions in the description for that ability that it counts as an instant win for Galactus.

TPF Alexis

There are three effects. The first, destroying the entire board, is probably survivable, by some characters at least. The second, doing 1,000,000 damage to your entire team, should be avoidable by Airborne characters. The third, tho, is that Galactus instantly wins the fight, which I'm pretty sure there's no way to stop.

Magipink

I"m not sure of the instant win. I think Hulk comes back as Banner. I'm also pretty sure the damages are made first because when Phoenix is down her countdown is swipe by the renewal of the board.

And for airborne i think that"s works but not sure. No clue for Nightcraler.

Alfje17

Magipink said:

I"m not sure of the instant win. I think Hulk comes back as Banner. I'm also pretty sure the damages are made first because when Phoenix is down her countdown is swipe by the renewal of the board.

And for airborne i think that"s works but not sure. No clue for Nightcraler.

I can confirm that Hulk coming back as Banner survived Galactus, but I only managed to do that once in May 2018, so this might be a glitch or working as planned.

https://imgur.com/gallery/T4tHaQ8

Banner tends to survive quite a few of these nukes, which is why I keep using him in Boss battles.

EDIT: this time Banner didn't survive Cosmic Wraith, so maybe this was indeed a bug.

Quebbster

Can LumberCap stop him from firing the ability with his purple?

Alfje17

Quebbster said:

Can LumberCap stop him from firing the ability with his purple?

Haven't tried that one, but Thanos' purple stops Galactus' purple, so you can at least delay it.

Jexman

LumberCap's purple doesn't stop the power that creates the new countdown tiles (I forget which color that is), so I suppose it doesn't stop the final blast.

sambrookjm

Jexman said:

LumberCap's purple doesn't stop the power that creates the new countdown tiles (I forget which color that is), so I suppose it doesn't stop the final blast.

The ability that creates the countdown tiles is a passive blue.  The ability that destroys the "Cosmic tiles" and gives him AP is a passive purple.  Cap's purple doesn't stop passives, so these should be unaffected.  As I said in a different thread, and Alfje17 confirmed, 5-star Thanos's Infinite Power will prevent the countdowns from being created, so that will give you some spare time.  The final blast is an active ability that's powered by 28 Black AP, so I think LumberCap should stop that ability from firing.

And don't forget, Rogue can knock the damage down to 500,000 if she's in front and both of her teammates are still alive.   That...might help?

Edit - Whoa.  Post #1000 for me.  Yay!

ZeiramMR

There's also Shuri as a possibility.

St_Bernadus

ZeiramMR said:

There's also Shuri as a possibility.

Both her and Peggy cause Galactus to need 30 black AP rather than 28. I believe that did work before so a loop hole closed.

CT1888

Tried it with Nightcrawler. 

He died. 

Dormammu

He eats Earth. Being airborne ain't gonna help anyone, where will they land?

sambrookjm

Dormammu said:

He eats Earth. Being airborne ain't gonna help anyone, where will they land?

His small intestine?

kk3thess

CT1888 said:

Tried it with Nightcrawler. 

He died. 

RIP Nightcrawler. You'll be missed.

skittledaddy

CT1888 said:

Tried it with Nightcrawler. 

He died. 

I wonder it that holds true for anyone Airborne BEFORE the nuke?

Oh well... more to consider (or not) next time he comes around.

MegaBee

In the past, I'd use Colossus specifically because he could throw someone just before Galactus's black went off. This no longer works.

professorplum9

Since I was bored after the event ended I tried various possibilities...

My memories a bit foggy but I thought the reduction to 28 black from the initially announced 30 was to prevent 4* Star-Lord (whose yellow at the time I believe increased enemy power cost) from blocking Galactus from firing. I tried with Peggy and even with 5 on yellow she didn't stop him from firing at 28. I tried with Shuri and had enough fortified tiles out to satisfy her increase enemy AP requirements. It did stop him from firing at 28, but then he consumed more tiles and even though the counter showed 30 (and Shuri should have made it cost 31) my only theory is that behind the scenes something is counting his excess because he fired (or it's a bug). Cap's purple worked well and stopped him from firing even at 30. Archangel's black did prevent Galactus AP generation.

Personally, I think they should rephrase the ability to just say it wipes out the enemy team and not mention any AOE damage numbers because I feel as worded Nightcrawler should have dodged (I tried it as well). It should also be reworded to say he is immune to enemy powers that raise AP costs if he really isn't going to honor them. I personally think that would have been better from the get go rather than reducing the cost to 28 to satisfy the only person who could stop him at the time. Given the precedence that Bosses are immune to stun (which already nullifies a number of character's with that power) and things of that nature and in this cases are supposed to be super powerful I don't have a problem with it. I'd rather that than ambiguous wording that doesn't match reality.

ThaRoadWarrior

Not really apropos of surviving it, but I really like this animation; too bad seeing it means you're getting stomped...