I do have Lumbercap at twelve covers and lv 435. To me he's okay.
He's LumberCap and he's okay, he sleeps all night and he works all day!
...*ahem* I agree with the analysis. Considering Cap leaves Latest on Monday, there is not enough time to get covers for him right now. Keep hoarding until the next fivestar is announced and make your decision then.
There will always be another 5-star who comes along that everyone will gotta have; Okoye certainly won't be the last of those.
Of your 4*s, Iceman, Peggy, Mockingbird, Valkyrie, America, Iron Fist and MEHulk would be my champ choices.
bk201 said:...but what about Punisher and X-23? Any thoughts?
The usual release Schedule has a fivestar release every six weeks - it's two fourstar releases and then a fivestar release. Sometimes they break the pattern though, Thor and Okoye were both released only four weeks after the previous fivestar.
Dormammu said:Punisher is top-middle tier among the 4-star group. He does some serious damage with his black and green. When he's boosted, MaxPun is an absolute monster. His only downside is he can be a bit slow.I consider X-23 to be a poorly designed character. Her healing ability requires that she tank her colors, which can be frustratingly difficult to arrange depending on her teammates. It severely limits the teams she can be a part of, especially if she's one of your lowest leveled 4-stars. Her purple is is an awful power that often results in no damage ever occurring, despite a the AP cost. Her green is okay... but there are a lot better green options in the 4-star tier.
Dormammu said:Kitty seems neat, but not neat enough for me to chase after right now. I'm hoarding for post-Loki/Wasp. I have a feeling in my gut that there is a 5-star Captain Marvel coming for her movie release that will be meta-defining, so I may even hoard past Kitty. I'll see what opinions are on her after she's been out a while and people report on her performance.
BlackBoltRocks said:As for 5* Captain Marvel, that's my gut feeling as well. In my country Captain Marvel will be released on 7 May; coincidentally, that's exactly 24 weeks after Kitty's release. So assuming they stick to the six-week schedule throughout, Carol would be the fourth 5* after Kitty.
If you have a chance to fully cover Okoye I say go for it, even if it means you'll be getting Loki and Wasp as well. But if you don't have enough pulls to have a decent chance at her, you're better off waiting until after Loki and Wasp leave the latest three and see what the 5-star landscape looks like then.
BlackBoltRocks said:@bk201 looking at your roster, I don't see Okoye there. Do you have her in your roster? If not, I recommend skipping her and continuing to hoard. With 200 LTs, on average you'll get 10 covers for each 5*, and that could include dupes. Skip both her and Wasp (Wasp is rubbish), and continuing hoarding your LTs and CPs until the next 5* kicks Wasp out. Then you can consider pulling for Loki/Kitty/whoever's the next 5*. Loki and Kitty are both very solid; they're not metagame-defining like GladiaThor/Okoye, and not as good as others like Black Bolt, Daredevil, or Jessica, but they're decent choices for your first few 5* champs. Loki can do a lot of damage with his Purple, and his Black might see some use in PvE (his Green sucks). Kitty can create strong Protect and Attack tiles which she can buff (along with your other friendly tiles) and her Purple is a good counter to S/A/P creators/spammers like Carnage, Carol Danvers, R4G, etc.
BlackBoltRocks said:As to your second question, my top seven 4* from your unchamped list (in my opinion, no particular order): Iceman, America Chavez, Mockingbird, Shuri, Valkyrie, Panther, Punisher.
BlackBoltRocks said:Keep in mind that there are A LOT of combinations in 4* land. So your choice of champions is also largely dependent on who you already have champed/planning to champ. Example 1: Luke Cage/Iron Fist/Professor X is a very solid combo. Example 2: Iron Spider/Miles Morales/Spider-Gwen is another very good trio. Example 3: Shuri, Mr Fantastic, and either Black Panther or MEHulk.
As you said earlier, I'm not completely sold on Okoye. She looks very solid on her own but not a game changer. I mean, IMHO, I see her in any team but can't figure out combinations with great synergy. But it's just my impression when I look at her power's description.
Oh believe me, Okoye is an absolute beast. She shines by buffing the attack damage of her allies, and she has significant endurance thanks to her high health and true healing. I use Okoye/Black Bolt/Dr Strange to speed through goons; the main strategy is to match Team-Up tiles. If the board is favourable, by turn 4 onwards I’m dealing at least 20k damage passively.
Dormammu said:She changed my game the second she hit my roster and it hasn't been the same since. In my opinion, she's the best character in the game right now. With 230 pulls, you have a good shot at getting her fully covered. I did it with less. Keep in mind you'll get more pulls out of those from 4-star champ rewards (CP/LT).
bk201 said:Reading her thread, BlackBoltRocks said she boosts Dr Strange's passive Faltine Flames, but not Medusa's Entanglement. So, she only boosts powers that deal direct damage (active or passive), but not powers that create countdowns/repeaters that deal damage? For example, C4rol's Photonic Barrage cd, Vulture's One Fell Swoop cd, etc. Now I can see her with a lot of 4*s that I have championed but not with others.
bk201 said:Reading her thread, BlackBoltRocks said she boosts Dr Strange's passive Faltine Flames, but not Medusa's Entanglement. So, she only boosts powers that deal direct damage (active or passive), but not powers that create countdowns/repeaters that deal damage? For example, C4rol's Photonic Barrage cd, Vulture's One Fell Swoop cd, etc. Now I can see her with a lot of 4*s that I have championed but not with others.Still confused, I have 1 more week to decide if I go for her. (or wait for others, maybe C5rol, who knows)
Dormammu said:Dig this - if you team her with XF Deadpool in PvP against other 5-stars, their match damage will trigger his passive ability that makes 1-turn damaging countdown tiles. Okoye boosts them with her passive and the damage goes through the roof. Add Drax as a third and his passive triggers every time a countdown reaches zero and does more damage... boosted by Okoye. So with Okoye and two 4-stars I can slaughter through any set of champed 5-stars, no matter who they are, in a tiny number of turns. Okoye tanks all colors and true heals off her yellow, so even though she's taking hits I don't use any health packs. I take a large number of losses on retals because they suck on defense, but who cares?In PvE I put her with Medusa and Strange and they'll tear through any set of three goons in about 4-5 turns. If I'm really in a hurry (seeking placement) I swap out Strange for Thanos and Okoye boosts Court Death, so any team (goons or active, it doesn't matter) are wiped out in 2-3 turns as long as there is Team-Up AP available.
With regards to Okoye's thread, I made that comment when it was still not clear what her Black did or did not boost. I think it got fixed a little. For example, when Okoye first came out she boosted Gambit's Red bonus damage when he destroyed Charged tiles; shortly after, it was fixed so that she didn't boost Gambit's Red.@bk201 how goes your current stash? According to your last update, you have 215 LTs and around 375CP. If you've since added to that, and can get a decent amount of CP and LTs in the next 3-4 days, you have a good shot at getting around 11-12 covers for Okoye (that's based on my estimate of you having at least 217 LTs and 400CP). Take into account LTs and CPs from champ rewards, and setting Okoye as your sole 5* BH, and you have a decent chance of covering her. (I don't want to get your hopes up though; RNG is a fickle beast heh.) But yes, as mentioned, you should be able to get 11-12 covers for Okoye, and pray that you don't get dupe covers. Then you can finish her off via Bonus Heroes and/or Shuri feeding her.