When is the next 4* feeder for 5* due?

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  • jtmagee
    jtmagee Posts: 158 Tile Toppler
    Nice!!!!
  • razor14
    razor14 Posts: 37 Just Dropped In
    edited August 2018

    Quebbster said:
    razor14 said:
    Next feeder will probably be Valkyrie -> Thor, going live next week. 


    I love seeing these wild guesses. Have done them myself on occassion.

    The sad truth is that the next feeder is coming when the devs decide it is time, and we will know about it when they announce it.


    That was a good wild guess! ;)
  • Steve111
    Steve111 Posts: 160 Tile Toppler
    Good detective work @razor14 !
  • MrBowers
    MrBowers Posts: 129 Tile Toppler
    edited August 2018
    Suprised these haven’t happened yet although I’m sure they will happen soon enough
    Mordo for strange
    Bucky for bearded cap
    Shuri for Okoye
  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    MrBowers said:
    Suprised these haven’t happened yet although I’m sure they will happen soon enough
    Mordo for strange
    Bucky for bearded cap
    Shuri for Okoye

    Mordo for Strange isn't happening - it'll be Wiccan.
    Iron Spider for Cap.
    Shuri might be happening, she is new enough.
  • gravel
    gravel Posts: 585 Critical Contributor
    It does say Week 1 of the celebration in Brigby's post, so we could be getting more soon.  Sadly, my 5/5/2 Okoye (with 2 saved covers) agrees with Bowgentle on the Shuri feeder.
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2018
    Bowgentle said:
    MrBowers said:
    Suprised these haven’t happened yet although I’m sure they will happen soon enough
    Mordo for strange
    Bucky for bearded cap
    Shuri for Okoye

    Mordo for Strange isn't happening - it'll be Wiccan.
    Iron Spider for Cap.
    Shuri might be happening, she is new enough.
    Objection!  Hearsay!

    No one knows what they'll do.  They've proven time and time again that just cause they start doing something in a logical pattern doesn't mean they'll stick to it to the end.  They've already changed strategy on 5* feeders at least twice if not 3 times already.  In fact one of the devs on discord openly said they don't like people to be able to predict what's coming and occasionally reshuffle with the intention of throwing people off.  Saying Mordo for Strange isn't happening is nonsense.  Either is about as likely as the other. (Unless you want to site a source for definitive statements vs reasonable speculation).
  • Nick441234
    Nick441234 Posts: 1,496 Chairperson of the Boards
    I would happily bet it wont be Mordo, since Mordo has been around a while now so a lot of people will have him champed quite some way. They dont want people getting too many 5* covers. 
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    I would happily bet it wont be Mordo, since Mordo has been around a while now so a lot of people will have him champed quite some way. They dont want people getting too many 5* covers. 
    Tell that to:
    XFW (released 11/2013 feeds OML),
    Kingping (released 3/2015 feeds DD),
    Ant-Man (Released 6/2015 feeds Wasp),
    Drax (released 4/2016 feeds Star-Lord),
    Kate Bishop (released 5/2016 feeds Hawkeye),
    Peggy Carter (released 6/2016 feeds OG Cap),
    Medusa (released 12/2016 feeds BB)

    All of those characters (7 of the 14 total 5* feeders) were released before Mordo who came out in 2/2017...

    To those claiming the sky is falling and there will never be a feeder from an old character did you forget Ant-man and Wasp?  The most recent feeder other than the two announced this week was from a characters that's been out for over 3 years...


  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    Further proof the idea that no older characters will ever be feeders:
    https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/74624/the-first-10-years-celebration-week-2-8-14-18
    Winter Soldier was released 4/2016, pre-Mordo
    50/50 ratio of pre-Mordo to post-Mordo still maintained.
  • The rockett
    The rockett Posts: 2,016 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2018
    Broll what people are saying is the 4* that were in the heart of vaulting will not be used a lot.  Yes they did use some in Gam and Medusa but advioded some too.  It is not Sky is falling but they don’t want to give out a ton of covers either.  That’s why Mordo feels like he will not give Dr S. But at some point these will have to feed at some point so maybe soon. Would be great.  Have a lot of them at 370 and dups champed.  They have to at some point you would think. 
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    Broll what people are saying is the 4* that were in the heart of vaulting will not be used a lot.  Yes they did use some in Gam and Medusa but advioded some too.  It is not Sky is falling but they don’t want to give out a ton of covers either.  That’s why Mordo feels like he will not give Dr S.  
    OK.  Let's list all the ones that have then.
    Peggy Carter (though very briefly she was in the first set)
    Medusa
    Gamora
    Sandman
    Vulture
    MEH Hulk
    Black Panther
    Valkyrie
    Jubiliee
    Black Widow

    10/16, more than half

    Ones that had a full cycle:
    Medusa
    Gamora
    Sandman
    Vulture

    4/16 1/4, still not terrible odds.  (Also sandman got one vs it being a very weak tie in no less..).

    Looking at the full group that went through featured, who makes sense to be a feeder?
    Peggy Carter Yes and is
    Wasp No appropriate character
    Spider-Woman No appropriate character
    Luke Cage No appropriate character
    Gwenpool No appropriate character
    Blade No appropriate character
    Venom (Agent) No appropriate character
    Medusa Yes and is
    Captain Marvel No appropriate character
    Riri Williams Ironman, but a stretch vs hulkbuster
    Mordo Dr. Strange
    Agent Coulson No appropriate character
    Iron Fist No appropriate character
    Cloak & Dagger No appropriate character
    Rocket & Groot Star-Lord (but he already has Drax)
    Gamora Yes and is
    Sandman It's a stretch but he got one
    Vulture Yes and is
    Mockingbird No appropriate character
    Yondu Star-Lord (but he already has Drax)
    Lockjaw Black Bolt (but he already has Medusa)
    Rogue Gambit
    Nightcrawler Technically any X-men but no strong connections
    The Hulk Yes and is
    Nico Minoru No appropriate character (unless you count Dr. Strange)
    America Chavez One of the Caps, but both have feeders
    Kraven The Hunter Spiderman (but already has Vulture)
    Black Panther Yes and is
    Shuri Black Panther (but already has Black Panther)
    Valkyrie Yes and is
    Jubilee Yes and is
    Black Widow Yes and is

    So out of 32 possible characters.  12 have no obvious appropriate character today.  10 are feeders already.  Take out 5 characters that the only obvious feeder is taken.  You're only left with 5 candidates out of the 32...  Mordo, Rouge, Riri, Nico Minoru (huge stretch), Nightcrawler (small stretch)

    So the fact that we aren't seeing many hits from a group of 5 out of a pool of 60 non-feeder characters).  I think it's a major over reaction to nothing, but I've stated my case. 

  • skittledaddy
    skittledaddy Posts: 999 Critical Contributor
    edited August 2018

    Shuri to Okoye next?
    Looks like she'll be featured in MCU-10 Week 3 PvE
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,456 Chairperson of the Boards
    Shuri would seem to have a strong connection to Okoye, no?
  • JSP869
    JSP869 Posts: 822 Critical Contributor
    Rogue will be the next 4* feeder and she'll feed Gambit...now that they've really nerfed him.
  • skittledaddy
    skittledaddy Posts: 999 Critical Contributor
    JSP869 said:
    Rogue will be the next 4* feeder and she'll feed Gambit...now that they've really nerfed him.
    Not until after the MCU-10 celebration is over.
  • DFiPL
    DFiPL Posts: 2,405 Chairperson of the Boards
    broll said:
    Broll what people are saying is the 4* that were in the heart of vaulting will not be used a lot.  Yes they did use some in Gam and Medusa but advioded some too.  It is not Sky is falling but they don’t want to give out a ton of covers either.  That’s why Mordo feels like he will not give Dr S.  
    OK.  Let's list all the ones that have then.
    Peggy Carter (though very briefly she was in the first set)
    Medusa
    Gamora
    Sandman
    Vulture
    MEH Hulk
    Black Panther
    Valkyrie
    Jubiliee
    Black Widow

    10/16, more than half

    Ones that had a full cycle:
    Medusa
    Gamora
    Sandman
    Vulture

    4/16 1/4, still not terrible odds.  (Also sandman got one vs it being a very weak tie in no less..).

    Looking at the full group that went through featured, who makes sense to be a feeder?
    Peggy Carter Yes and is
    Wasp No appropriate character
    Spider-Woman No appropriate character
    Luke Cage No appropriate character
    Gwenpool No appropriate character
    Blade No appropriate character
    Venom (Agent) No appropriate character
    Medusa Yes and is
    Captain Marvel No appropriate character
    Riri Williams Ironman, but a stretch vs hulkbuster
    Mordo Dr. Strange
    Agent Coulson No appropriate character
    Iron Fist No appropriate character
    Cloak & Dagger No appropriate character
    Rocket & Groot Star-Lord (but he already has Drax)
    Gamora Yes and is
    Sandman It's a stretch but he got one
    Vulture Yes and is
    Mockingbird No appropriate character
    Yondu Star-Lord (but he already has Drax)
    Lockjaw Black Bolt (but he already has Medusa)
    Rogue Gambit
    Nightcrawler Technically any X-men but no strong connections
    The Hulk Yes and is
    Nico Minoru No appropriate character (unless you count Dr. Strange)
    America Chavez One of the Caps, but both have feeders
    Kraven The Hunter Spiderman (but already has Vulture)
    Black Panther Yes and is
    Shuri Black Panther (but already has Black Panther)
    Valkyrie Yes and is
    Jubilee Yes and is
    Black Widow Yes and is

    So out of 32 possible characters.  12 have no obvious appropriate character today.  10 are feeders already.  Take out 5 characters that the only obvious feeder is taken.  You're only left with 5 candidates out of the 32...  Mordo, Rouge, Riri, Nico Minoru (huge stretch), Nightcrawler (small stretch)

    So the fact that we aren't seeing many hits from a group of 5 out of a pool of 60 non-feeder characters).  I think it's a major over reaction to nothing, but I've stated my case. 

    No appropriate character on C4ge? Are we ignoring his marriage to Jessica Jones in comics lore? ;)

    Or are you hinging the lack of appropriateness on C4ge not being a "Netflix" iteration of the character?

    Shuri, as has been pointed out, could tie to Okoye as a strong female character from the Pantherverse.

    Some of your 'no appropriate character' tags really hinge on the context of "for first feeder." Wasp could easily feed Wasp, but Ant-Man's already doing that job, so she isn't likely to get doubled soon, as an example.
  • JHawkInc
    JHawkInc Posts: 2,605 Chairperson of the Boards
    JSP869 said:
    Rogue will be the next 4* feeder and she'll feed Gambit...now that they've really nerfed him.
    Not until after the MCU-10 celebration is over.
    More like "not until his special sellback price is gone." Adding a feeder before that would let you convert free Gambit covers into other characters.

    They also might wait until after he's essential (which should be... within a week), so that people are required to chase him normally if they sold him and aren't aided by a feeder replacing covers they sold.
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    DFiPL said:
    broll said:
    Broll what people are saying is the 4* that were in the heart of vaulting will not be used a lot.  Yes they did use some in Gam and Medusa but advioded some too.  It is not Sky is falling but they don’t want to give out a ton of covers either.  That’s why Mordo feels like he will not give Dr S.  
    OK.  Let's list all the ones that have then.
    Peggy Carter (though very briefly she was in the first set)
    Medusa
    Gamora
    Sandman
    Vulture
    MEH Hulk
    Black Panther
    Valkyrie
    Jubiliee
    Black Widow

    10/16, more than half

    Ones that had a full cycle:
    Medusa
    Gamora
    Sandman
    Vulture

    4/16 1/4, still not terrible odds.  (Also sandman got one vs it being a very weak tie in no less..).

    Looking at the full group that went through featured, who makes sense to be a feeder?
    Peggy Carter Yes and is
    Wasp No appropriate character
    Spider-Woman No appropriate character
    Luke Cage No appropriate character
    Gwenpool No appropriate character
    Blade No appropriate character
    Venom (Agent) No appropriate character
    Medusa Yes and is
    Captain Marvel No appropriate character
    Riri Williams Ironman, but a stretch vs hulkbuster
    Mordo Dr. Strange
    Agent Coulson No appropriate character
    Iron Fist No appropriate character
    Cloak & Dagger No appropriate character
    Rocket & Groot Star-Lord (but he already has Drax)
    Gamora Yes and is
    Sandman It's a stretch but he got one
    Vulture Yes and is
    Mockingbird No appropriate character
    Yondu Star-Lord (but he already has Drax)
    Lockjaw Black Bolt (but he already has Medusa)
    Rogue Gambit
    Nightcrawler Technically any X-men but no strong connections
    The Hulk Yes and is
    Nico Minoru No appropriate character (unless you count Dr. Strange)
    America Chavez One of the Caps, but both have feeders
    Kraven The Hunter Spiderman (but already has Vulture)
    Black Panther Yes and is
    Shuri Black Panther (but already has Black Panther)
    Valkyrie Yes and is
    Jubilee Yes and is
    Black Widow Yes and is

    So out of 32 possible characters.  12 have no obvious appropriate character today.  10 are feeders already.  Take out 5 characters that the only obvious feeder is taken.  You're only left with 5 candidates out of the 32...  Mordo, Rouge, Riri, Nico Minoru (huge stretch), Nightcrawler (small stretch)

    So the fact that we aren't seeing many hits from a group of 5 out of a pool of 60 non-feeder characters).  I think it's a major over reaction to nothing, but I've stated my case. 

    No appropriate character on C4ge? Are we ignoring his marriage to Jessica Jones in comics lore? ;)

    Or are you hinging the lack of appropriateness on C4ge not being a "Netflix" iteration of the character?

    Shuri, as has been pointed out, could tie to Okoye as a strong female character from the Pantherverse.

    Some of your 'no appropriate character' tags really hinge on the context of "for first feeder." Wasp could easily feed Wasp, but Ant-Man's already doing that job, so she isn't likely to get doubled soon, as an example.
    Yeah I figured I had to miss some. I typed that up in a hurry. So from 5 to 7. 
  • Nick441234
    Nick441234 Posts: 1,496 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yes, they picked an older character. They also picked one of the least popular ones. Just as they did with Sandman. 

    Lets start seeing them pick older 4*s who many people will have well into the 300's.