I am a 1478 day player with my highest 5* at 494. With every 2 weeks, except when 5* are released, we get a new 4*. I have to admit, I have no idea what most of them do. I am at the point, I really don't even look at their powers.
The last one I looked at was close was Valkyrie for her Black Passive. I used her the last PVE on the 5*E node just messing around to she how she would do and it was a nice change. Before that it was Nico and American Chavez. I use AC almost every PVE with 1/2 Thor. Can make very quick work of the node.
After that, not so much.
Wiccan-Oh look. You jumped to the front in a PVP match and die.
Spider-man IF/Iron Spider-Hey there is web tiles on the board.
Black Widow-I guess the yellow could do something for me as a Team Up.
Jubilee-Oh she makes charged tiles. Guess she could work with Gambit.....oh wait, it is a green power. Sorry would rather use that for 5*Thor AOE
Black Panther-Look shield tiles, strike tiles and fortified tiles. Not sure what else.
Shuri-That is a cool cover. Oh she makes fortified tiles and...
Kraven-Um...what do you do?
I am not trying to be negative, but these really mean nothing but a 4* farm. Some like American Chavez is made to really work with 5* and some just are not. I know I am not the only one that feels like this but it just seems like such a waste that they come out, get covers and then will show up as an essential for PVE. Otherwise than that, they will fall into the dark abyss that is a massive roster doing nothing except if I select you to be Thanos fodder in PVE.
Any other 5* players feel this way? Am I way off base? Just real no desire to keep chasing 4*, and now with token dilution back in full force, that truly wont do anything at all expect do champ rewards and will never use them again.
I'm not as high a 5* player as you, but you have a better grasp on what any of the new 4*s do than I do. They are almost as instantly forgettable as Supports...
I also discovered Valk in the last PVE and went through some of this PVE with 50Thormerica, works out pretty quick even when she's not boosted. Great in wave nodes as you can usually save enough green to fire Thor green for last couple of waves.
I find in the Yellow loaner node I usually rely on the 3* and 2* powers cos I know what they do.
Punter1 said: I'm not as high a 5* player as you, but you have a better grasp on what any of the new 4*s do than I do. They are almost as instantly forgettable as Supports...I also discovered Valk in the last PVE and went through some of this PVE with 50Thormerica, works out pretty quick even when she's not boosted. Great in wave nodes as you can usually save enough green to fire Thor green for last couple of waves.I find in the Yellow loaner node I usually rely on the 3* and 2* powers cos I know what they do.
Dartmaster01 said: Not really but every once in a while a R&G or America pops up and that will peek your interest. I do grab whatever covers are convenient upon release but don't worry about it beyond that. It's been that way for like 8 months probably.
It's really a long compounding problem with this game.
Speed is still "required" to play at the higher tiers, which means you need to use the limited few characters that actually achieve that.
I have 173 rostered Characters, I have a knowledge of a good number of them due to using them over time when in 3* and 4* land, but since hitting 5* world the number I use regularly has dwindled.
There is very limited opportunities where we're encouraged to experiment. DPD has 2 fights, but I still just want that over and done with so rarely experiment.
Bring back the Gauntlet or God forbid Heroics, refresh DPD, offer rewards for using a variety of Characters, set challenges with the new Characters and so on and so forth. Shield Training does that a little but the character is so under powered initially it's easier to just win with TU.
Sm0keyJ0e said: High level 4*'s can be fun when boosted, and the new rotation of PVP that seems to be including 4*'s more regularly are a welcomed sign. The problem is, once again... Gambit. His purple neutralizes just about any toon that does something fun with CD's or special tiles. I am not going to list every one of them, but just think about what the best 4*'s do and how Gambit completely neutralizes them. The ones that create fortified tiles actually work against that team as Gambit now has fortified CD tiles that are going to hurt. I saw (and used) boosted 4*'s quite a bit in PVP before Gambit came along. Now they're mostly useless.
Punter1 said: It's really a long compounding problem with this game. Speed is still "required" to play at the higher tiers, which means you need to use the limited few characters that actually achieve that. I have 173 rostered Characters, I have a knowledge of a good number of them due to using them over time when in 3* and 4* land, but since hitting 5* world the number I use regularly has dwindled. There is very limited opportunities where we're encouraged to experiment. DPD has 2 fights, but I still just want that over and done with so rarely experiment.Bring back the Gauntlet or God forbid Heroics, refresh DPD, offer rewards for using a variety of Characters, set challenges with the new Characters and so on and so forth. Shield Training does that a little but the character is so under powered initially it's easier to just win with TU.
The rockett said: Punter1 said: It's really a long compounding problem with this game. Speed is still "required" to play at the higher tiers, which means you need to use the limited few characters that actually achieve that. I have 173 rostered Characters, I have a knowledge of a good number of them due to using them over time when in 3* and 4* land, but since hitting 5* world the number I use regularly has dwindled. There is very limited opportunities where we're encouraged to experiment. DPD has 2 fights, but I still just want that over and done with so rarely experiment.Bring back the Gauntlet or God forbid Heroics, refresh DPD, offer rewards for using a variety of Characters, set challenges with the new Characters and so on and so forth. Shield Training does that a little but the character is so under powered initially it's easier to just win with TU. HEROICS FOR THE WIN!!!!! With limited rosters!!!!! Yes yes yes yes!! Now we are talking. You had to know them inside and out to pick the best team and quickest team to win. That would make many care about them again...well at least for that pve event. Lol
I think there's good mileage to be had in re-introducing the heroic limited roster mechanic. I remember hating them as it was an endless cycle of Dark Avengers usually with available characters that had limited synergy.
Sometimes in the DPD Burrito you get surprised by some neat combos they choose. If they could apply that logic to a tailored group of 4* and 3* that you'd have to use in a Heroic style event, I think those of us in 5* land could have a fun time experimenting.