Kinesia said: Am I allowed to say "Just don't play _just_ spells"?Who are you running this 10 spell deck with anyway? (Amused smile)
babar3355 said: Kinesia said: Am I allowed to say "Just don't play _just_ spells"?Who are you running this 10 spell deck with anyway? (Amused smile)Honestly, it's just one of those things. He had a really well placed "paper" on my "rock". However, the more I thought about it, the more I realized that my only REAL option to ensure this didn't happen, was to NOT run T2 at all.
Mburn7 said: ZW2007- said: Mburn7 said:I agree that the card is powerful, and probably should be a rare, but lets not get crazy. It has 1 shield, after all, so barring incredibly bad luck you should be ok with some gem converters (which most decks run anyway) Would just like to point out the irony in this statement. You can't really pop it with the most common form of gem converters: green spells. I am aware that there are supports that convert and some creatures but let's be real, the vast majority are spells (or a cycled quasi-dino).I still disagree with the comparison to Hixus or Cast Out shutting down creature decks. Yes, those shut down decks piloted by Greg because he doesn't replace his creatures but humans can. Same with the support removal spells/Vraska argument. Yes, those destroy your supports. They also don't target specific supports (Vraska kind of sorta does but you can use this to your advantage by making less valuable supports have larger stacks.) Playing against Vraska or a deck with lots of support destruction? Hold a bunch of different supports in hand and try to flood the board all at once instead of casting one per turn and getting it nuked once per turn.Point is, I don't have to destroy Hixus or Cast Out to still win with creatures. I don't have to prevent support destruction from happening to win with a support only deck (of which very few possible decks even exist: Ob, Angrath, and T2 ults mainly). I do have to deal with Sphinx's Decree to win with a spell deck. It is literally impossible to win with a spell deck against Sphinx's Decree without first destroying Sphinx's Decree.That said, I'm not opposed to its existence. It's one of my favorite cards in the set. I look forward to finding new ways to continually abuse it. Babar isn't wrong about its power though. I think some are either being overprotective of it or willfully ignorant of its power just for the sake of argument. Do you run more than 3 creatures in a deck? I almost never do, and am thus usually unable to replace creatures. I just kill them if I can and move on (a move the AI does quite well), or ignore mana gains and just try to set up matches to pop the supports.And I was referring to supports that convert gems, since almost every deck has at least 1 or 2 of them in anyway. Even if they aren't converting to white, you can try to match other gems to set up a pop. Its slow, but usually works
ZW2007- said: Mburn7 said:I agree that the card is powerful, and probably should be a rare, but lets not get crazy. It has 1 shield, after all, so barring incredibly bad luck you should be ok with some gem converters (which most decks run anyway) Would just like to point out the irony in this statement. You can't really pop it with the most common form of gem converters: green spells. I am aware that there are supports that convert and some creatures but let's be real, the vast majority are spells (or a cycled quasi-dino).I still disagree with the comparison to Hixus or Cast Out shutting down creature decks. Yes, those shut down decks piloted by Greg because he doesn't replace his creatures but humans can. Same with the support removal spells/Vraska argument. Yes, those destroy your supports. They also don't target specific supports (Vraska kind of sorta does but you can use this to your advantage by making less valuable supports have larger stacks.) Playing against Vraska or a deck with lots of support destruction? Hold a bunch of different supports in hand and try to flood the board all at once instead of casting one per turn and getting it nuked once per turn.Point is, I don't have to destroy Hixus or Cast Out to still win with creatures. I don't have to prevent support destruction from happening to win with a support only deck (of which very few possible decks even exist: Ob, Angrath, and T2 ults mainly). I do have to deal with Sphinx's Decree to win with a spell deck. It is literally impossible to win with a spell deck against Sphinx's Decree without first destroying Sphinx's Decree.That said, I'm not opposed to its existence. It's one of my favorite cards in the set. I look forward to finding new ways to continually abuse it. Babar isn't wrong about its power though. I think some are either being overprotective of it or willfully ignorant of its power just for the sake of argument.
Mburn7 said:I agree that the card is powerful, and probably should be a rare, but lets not get crazy. It has 1 shield, after all, so barring incredibly bad luck you should be ok with some gem converters (which most decks run anyway)