ElfNeedsFood said: Well I’d even compare the new vehicles to Smuggler’s Copter and come up with “what just happened?”
Matthew said: I I have a hunch that this will be the new norm moving forward. That is, unless Oktagon falls victim to the same power creep traps that befell Hibernum.If that is indeed their intent, then I guess I don't have a problem with that. But it will be annoying to deal with until the more absurd cards, like Heart of Kiran, Metalwork Colossus, Rishkar's Expertise, Baral, etc, fall off into the Legacy block.
Matthew said:And I actually rather like Smuggler's Copter. It was alright at best before we got AKH/HOU, but with the arrival of Embalm/Eternalize/Aftermath, it's actually serving a purpose by discarding cards for you.
Matthew said: ElfNeedsFood said: Well I’d even compare the new vehicles to Smuggler’s Copter and come up with “what just happened?” The two vehicles we've seen so far are laughably unimpressive. Of course, I'm saying that as I look at them essentially in the context of some stupidly OP vehicles. Perhaps once the KLD/AER monsterships cycle out, these vehicles and any future ones will be more useful.And I actually rather like Smuggler's Copter. It was alright at best before we got AKH/HOU, but with the arrival of Embalm/Eternalize/Aftermath, it's actually serving a purpose by discarding cards for you.
khurram said: Bad cards are bad regardless of existence of other cards that are powerful. Majority of the cards that have been spoiled so far seem very weak and would still be weak if HoK, Colossus, Rex and baral did not exist.
Mburn7 said: I like the idea to reduce power creep. It will be much better once Kaladesh rotates out.
Stormcrow said:I do agree that the previewed cards could use an editing pass for clarity/consistency of language use.
Mburn7 said: khurram said: Bad cards are bad regardless of existence of other cards that are powerful. Majority of the cards that have been spoiled so far seem very weak and would still be weak if HoK, Colossus, Rex and baral did not exist. I'm not sure about that. Power is relative. Rashimi is useless in a vacuum, but with assorted gem changers (from every set) she becomes one of the most powerful in the game. Some cards that were staples back when Zendikar was the newest set became useless once Innistrad came out.And quite a few of the cards that have been spoiled seem fun and useful, even if they aren't as stupidly overpowered as Baral and stuff. Sure I don't see the next Olivia here (not to say it isn't, just not obviously), but I wouldn't mind using some of these.
Tilwin90 said:So no i don't think an op environment filled with colossus and such is super healthy but I'd rather my colossus still cost the same and were smaller thant the other way around.Cheers!
khurram said: Tilwin90 said:So no i don't think an op environment filled with colossus and such is super healthy but I'd rather my colossus still cost the same and were smaller thant the other way around.Cheers! How about if your colossus were smaller and it cost 10 more Mana? Because that's how most of the new spoiled cards feel.