MPQ at Marvel.com (Ghost Rider - Robbie Reyes) (1/23/18)
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broll said:JHawkInc said:Huh. How about that.
I was sure they'd go back to the "old" 5/4/4 schedule, give us another 4, and save the 5 for a Black Panther movie tie-in.
This is way better, to be honest. I'm down for a Ghost Rider 5*.
I was surprised to see them go with GR particularly Robbie Reyes, especially when there's a number of MCU Avengers that still haven't gotten 5* treatment. But they're likely saving those for later tie-ins.0 -
Sm0keyJ0e said:It depends on the length of stun of GR's red. If it's a 3+ turn stun, I think he's a good counter to Gambit, particularly if paired with <50% health Thor. That red is easy to come by and Gambit can be stun-locked.
But if it's at most a 1- or 2-turn stun it's going to be disappointing. The 5* tier desperately needs a cheap stun a la G4mora or Bobby.
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JHawkInc said:broll said:JHawkInc said:Huh. How about that.
I was sure they'd go back to the "old" 5/4/4 schedule, give us another 4, and save the 5 for a Black Panther movie tie-in.
This is way better, to be honest. I'm down for a Ghost Rider 5*.
I was surprised to see them go with GR particularly Robbie Reyes, especially when there's a number of MCU Avengers that still haven't gotten 5* treatment. But they're likely saving those for later tie-ins.
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DAZ0273 said:JHawkInc said:broll said:JHawkInc said:Huh. How about that.
I was sure they'd go back to the "old" 5/4/4 schedule, give us another 4, and save the 5 for a Black Panther movie tie-in.
This is way better, to be honest. I'm down for a Ghost Rider 5*.
I was surprised to see them go with GR particularly Robbie Reyes, especially when there's a number of MCU Avengers that still haven't gotten 5* treatment. But they're likely saving those for later tie-ins.Cactus_Jack_87 said:Sm0keyJ0e said:It depends on the length of stun of GR's red. If it's a 3+ turn stun, I think he's a good counter to Gambit, particularly if paired with <50% health Thor. That red is easy to come by and Gambit can be stun-locked.
But if it's at most a 1- or 2-turn stun it's going to be disappointing. The 5* tier desperately needs a cheap stun a la G4mora or Bobby.
Also, you only need 7 red AP to stun again, if you can get rid of that countdown.0 -
It seems that his AP generation is a bit situational, since his green repeater tiles only destroy surrounding tiles, not randoms across the board like Thor's. I'm guessing that he'll be able to throw out more repeaters as his level increases, but there will still be times that the board is full of purple or yellow and it won't be doing anything. His black looks like it should be a solid nuke, with it doing around 1.4x extra damage under the right conditions. I'm guessing it'll land at around 25K (maybe more) at level 450? Very solid for 10AP. Teamed up with Thor, I could see them making a crazy amount of AP. But of course, you'll have to take down Gambit first.
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JHawkInc said:DAZ0273 said:JHawkInc said:broll said:JHawkInc said:Huh. How about that.
I was sure they'd go back to the "old" 5/4/4 schedule, give us another 4, and save the 5 for a Black Panther movie tie-in.
This is way better, to be honest. I'm down for a Ghost Rider 5*.
I was surprised to see them go with GR particularly Robbie Reyes, especially when there's a number of MCU Avengers that still haven't gotten 5* treatment. But they're likely saving those for later tie-ins.
I could possibly see them doing an Infinite War 5* Cap because his appearance (and possibly even his shield) are significantly different to the Civil War version but there isn't much to suggest that BP will be much altered compared to the Civil War version.
Of course complete conjecture on my part.
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Cactus_Jack_87 said:Wow, Ghost Rider's design is really cool. He looks like a lot of fun, and his AP generation will help his already cheap moves. It's just too bad that, since Ghostie relies heavily on special tiles, he'll be completely irrelevant out of the gate thanks to Gambit. I appreciate the thought behind most of these new 5*s, but Gambit is a jerk and ruins all their fun. Good thing I have him champed! See the video below for an example (Gambit is Indy, the swordsman is...well, everyone else).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKrmDLvijo
Fun fact: In the script, this scene was an extended whip-vs-sword battle between Indy and the swordsman. But when it was time to shoot the scene Harrison Ford suffered from dysentery and wasn't up to shooting a physically demanding scene, so he asked "Can't I just shoot the [expletive] instead?". And that worked out well.I feel this entire story works as an analogy for Gambit as well.
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He sounds cool, my frustration just lies in how soon I may expect him to become an essential character. My hoard still hasn't recovered from when I was forced to try and pull Archangel in time for Strange Sights, and my subsequent efforts to get America covered, so now I'm very wary of 5* releases. I would assume that they wouldn't make him an Essential until he at least enters tokens, which technically shouldn't be for a little while, but I could easily be wrong.0
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Quebbster said:Cactus_Jack_87 said:Wow, Ghost Rider's design is really cool. He looks like a lot of fun, and his AP generation will help his already cheap moves. It's just too bad that, since Ghostie relies heavily on special tiles, he'll be completely irrelevant out of the gate thanks to Gambit. I appreciate the thought behind most of these new 5*s, but Gambit is a jerk and ruins all their fun. Good thing I have him champed! See the video below for an example (Gambit is Indy, the swordsman is...well, everyone else).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKrmDLvijo
Fun fact: In the script, this scene was an extended whip-vs-sword battle between Indy and the swordsman. But when it was time to shoot the scene Harrison Ford suffered from dysentery and wasn't up to shooting a physically demanding scene, so he asked "Can't I just shoot the [expletive] instead?". And that worked out well.I feel this entire story works as an analogy for Gambit as well.
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Fun fact: In the script, this scene was an extended whip-vs-sword battle between Indy and the swordsman. But when it was time to shoot the scene Harrison Ford suffered from dysentery and wasn't up to shooting a physically demanding scene, so he asked "Can't I just shoot the [expletive] instead?". And that worked out well.
I do mainly play this game when I'm suffering from dysentery, which is all the time. So the analogy works!I feel this entire story works as an analogy for Gambit as well.
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Very nice looking abilities at low cost. Love the repeater ability. I'm not sure if he can be a good counter against Gambit since he will overwrite all the special tiles. The good news might be that Gambit's abilities might be updated next month.
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broll said:Quebbster said:Cactus_Jack_87 said:Wow, Ghost Rider's design is really cool. He looks like a lot of fun, and his AP generation will help his already cheap moves. It's just too bad that, since Ghostie relies heavily on special tiles, he'll be completely irrelevant out of the gate thanks to Gambit. I appreciate the thought behind most of these new 5*s, but Gambit is a jerk and ruins all their fun. Good thing I have him champed! See the video below for an example (Gambit is Indy, the swordsman is...well, everyone else).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKrmDLvijo
Fun fact: In the script, this scene was an extended whip-vs-sword battle between Indy and the swordsman. But when it was time to shoot the scene Harrison Ford suffered from dysentery and wasn't up to shooting a physically demanding scene, so he asked "Can't I just shoot the [expletive] instead?". And that worked out well.I feel this entire story works as an analogy for Gambit as well.
More that he is like dysentery...
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*Please keep all comments on the topic of Ghost Rider (Robbie Reyes). Thank you!0
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On the topic of Ghost Rider (Robbie Reyes) are any numbers out and about yet?
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Thanks Brigby!0
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And Ghost Rider excells in hiding someone's HP stash0
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If its anything like his CP total, it isn't worth hiding!0
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Is there anything in the fiction to support making Robbie Reyes and Johny Blaze mutually exclusive?
They are separate characters, and as I understand it are bound to different demons. It seems particularly surprising given the Angel/Archangel split for two characters who are actually different versions of the same person.
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jamesh said:Is there anything in the fiction to support making Robbie Reyes and Johny Blaze mutually exclusive?
They are separate characters, and as I understand it are bound to different demons. It seems particularly surprising given the Angel/Archangel split for two characters who are actually different versions of the same person.
They get some right (Eddie and Flash can't fight together because there's only one Venom Symbiote, same logic for Banner and Cho being Hulk; likewise, Peggy Carter and Sam Wilson being Captain America doesn't prohibit the other or Steve Rogers from being Cap as well, same logic for Miles and Peter both being Spider-Man).
Then they get some wrong (it makes sense for Angel to fight alongside Archangel because they actually exist side by side in the comics; even if they're technically the same person, time travel has made it so they could fight together; the problem is that this should also apply to Teen Jean and Phoenix, as well as OML once he joins 616, compared to the other Wolverines).
Robbie and Johnny are wholly separate. They barely even share similar Ghost Rider abilities (where Danny Ketch and Johnny Blaze are very similar, even some basic bits like "floating flaming skull" are different with Robbie, who has a larger "flaming skull helmet" thing going on). Robbie doesn't even have a Spirit of Vengeance. Hell, one of his first comic arcs (if not THE first, I don't remember and am too lazy to check) is about him kicking up enough dust to draw Johnny Blaze's attention, and they meet in the first ten issues of Robbie's solo comic.0
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