Catering to heavy spenders

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  • Beta-Ray Bill
    Beta-Ray Bill Posts: 124 Tile Toppler
    shartattack said:
    Hoarders? Yes 
    Whales?  yes, but not to that degree

    This will just encourage saving for 300 pulls on the day a 5 is added, pull until that 5 is champed and then hoard again for 6 more weeks
    Definitely to the whales. Do you know how many pulls you’d have to do to max the new 5* every release. Not to mention the pace they are releasing them.

    thor is right around the corner. You have like 2 weeks to hoard another 200-250 pulls for him..

    good luck without being a whale
  • Pinko_McFly
    Pinko_McFly Posts: 282 Mover and Shaker
    So we're down to a 4 week release cycle on 5*s.
    Wonderful, just what we were asking for.
  • Avalancher
    Avalancher Posts: 125 Tile Toppler
    Could be only because of Anniversary and Thor being so close together.
  • Beta-Ray Bill
    Beta-Ray Bill Posts: 124 Tile Toppler
    Vhailorx said:
    I see the problem:  you people are all playing PVP.  Ha!  Didn't you get demi's latest message:  PVP is no longer intended to be fun.  It's all about grinding to boost their engagement numbers.  Enjoy!

    (and yes, the absurd 5* boosting is a more than a little disruptive to the game, especially in PVP.  But it seems that someone at demi or d3 has decided that we players weren't pressured enough to cover and level everyone immediately.  So this seems likely to stick around).
    Jokes on you fella. The huge push of players quitting pvp and moving to competing in pve will also have a huge effect here. You think you can compete with a well built roster that clears 15 minute faster than you?
  • Beta-Ray Bill
    Beta-Ray Bill Posts: 124 Tile Toppler
    Wonko33 said:
    why would they not cater to people who pay the bills?
    Why would you only cater to those people. For starters those people will pay regardless of what this game does.

    following that they new to generate new income, as well as, the steady current. They have lost others who won’t buy VIP. $10 a month over 4 years I’ve played so far will add up.

    its bad business to target one market of people. Putting all your eggs in one basket. Cater to everybody and you have more business and new business from word of mouth
  • Beta-Ray Bill
    Beta-Ray Bill Posts: 124 Tile Toppler
    Avalancher said:
    Could be only because of Anniversary and Thor being so close together.
    Normally I’d agree but it sounds like their are ready to fire off hulk shortly after too. So these two will be either released closely together or overlap each other
  • Brigby
    Brigby ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 7,757 Site Admin
    *Please do not attack other players, nor deviate from the original topic! Thank you
  • Beta-Ray Bill
    Beta-Ray Bill Posts: 124 Tile Toppler
    Brigby said:
    *Please do not attack other players, nor deviate from the original topic! Thank you
    I hardly see all of what I said as an attack but alright.
  • corytutor
    corytutor Posts: 414 Mover and Shaker
    You'll get jailed like me
  • Beta-Ray Bill
    Beta-Ray Bill Posts: 124 Tile Toppler
    zonatahunt said:
    Brigby said:
    *Please do not attack other players, nor deviate from the original topic! Thank you
    Brigby,

    Ive been playing loyaly since the first week of release.  Every day.  EVERY day!  This move to a wins-based system is 100% a punishment to all of this game's loyal players.  I realize you aren't a developer, but there is no way you aren't aware of the general mood of the developers as they watch their player base up in arms.  Since you've been with us you've been pretty awesome, but would you please be transparent with us and let us know if this horrible change is working as they've intended it to?  I'm in shock that a company would either be this idiotic and naive, or this malicious towards the people that have kept their lights on for four years.  I'm ready to move on, and that's a shame because it's a wonderful game that I love...but these changes are simply awful, and nefariously nasty!

    TheDude_Abides (...and TheDude medicates, so I'm pretty chill about things)
    Preach it brother
  • Beta-Ray Bill
    Beta-Ray Bill Posts: 124 Tile Toppler
    BlackBoltRocks said:
    Beta-Ray Bill said:
    Avalancher said:
    Could be only because of Anniversary and Thor being so close together.
    Normally I’d agree but it sounds like their are ready to fire off hulk shortly after too. So these two will be either released closely together or overlap each other
    Not sure if Main Event Hulk will be a 4* or 5*. I'd be very shocked if it was a 5* though. Him being a 4* seems more in line with Nightcrawler's release. Although, D3 loves throwing curveballs at us...
    Very true, but I wouldn’t put it passed them for a 5* hulk too. Like the dual release of cap and IM. 
  • AndrewLordVader_2099
    AndrewLordVader_2099 Posts: 2 Just Dropped In
    I like whales. Whales are people too! In the best case scenario they keep working hard for their money so freeloaders like me can play MPQ for zilch all day long. And even if they are spoiled little rich brats it will have a positive effect on world economy overall: By spending all their family-fortunes on new 5 *s all the big companies behind them will probably go bankrupt in about 2-3 years time. Mindless capitalism will be defeated! All thanks to Gambit! That's a reassuring thought don't you think? So chill and put the greater good of the planet over your petty quibbles about who gets to be in the top ten and who not...   
  • Nick441234
    Nick441234 Posts: 1,496 Chairperson of the Boards
    Beta-Ray Bill said:
    Wonko33 said:
    why would they not cater to people who pay the bills?
    Why would you only cater to those people. For starters those people will pay regardless of what this game does.

    following that they new to generate new income, as well as, the steady current. They have lost others who won’t buy VIP. $10 a month over 4 years I’ve played so far will add up.

    its bad business to target one market of people. Putting all your eggs in one basket. Cater to everybody and you have more business and new business from word of mouth
    They do cater to everyone. You get to play the game for free. Thats catering to everyone. 
  • corytutor
    corytutor Posts: 414 Mover and Shaker
    Nick441234 said:
    Beta-Ray Bill said:
    Wonko33 said:
    why would they not cater to people who pay the bills?
    Why would you only cater to those people. For starters those people will pay regardless of what this game does.

    following that they new to generate new income, as well as, the steady current. They have lost others who won’t buy VIP. $10 a month over 4 years I’ve played so far will add up.

    its bad business to target one market of people. Putting all your eggs in one basket. Cater to everybody and you have more business and new business from word of mouth
    They do cater to everyone. You get to play the game for free. Thats catering to everyone. 
    Thats pretty short sighted. 

    For one, beta has paid a good amount. 

    Second, even if he hadnt, does that somehow invalidate his opinion?

    As a 4 year player, free or not, his opinion should be considered
  • babinro
    babinro Posts: 771 Critical Contributor
    This is a straight up pay to win game.  There's never been any delusions about that.
    PvP in spirit was always supposed to be a competitive mode of play.

    So whales getting better rewards SHOULD be the norm.  That's the logical end point of these things.

    Personal Note:  I hate that progression CP was taken away...I feel that it should have stuck around while also increasing the top 10 CP rewards.  This would have kept progression players like myself happy while also giving out meaningful rewards to competitive players.    Maybe we'll get there with CL9 pvp though.
  • corytutor
    corytutor Posts: 414 Mover and Shaker
    It is play to win. Absolutely. And they made a bad move by taking away the one resource the people willing to pay desire. I dont play for 3 or 4* covers. Thats nice and all but my goal is always cp
  • Nick441234
    Nick441234 Posts: 1,496 Chairperson of the Boards
    corytutor said:
    Nick441234 said:
    Beta-Ray Bill said:
    Wonko33 said:
    why would they not cater to people who pay the bills?
    Why would you only cater to those people. For starters those people will pay regardless of what this game does.

    following that they new to generate new income, as well as, the steady current. They have lost others who won’t buy VIP. $10 a month over 4 years I’ve played so far will add up.

    its bad business to target one market of people. Putting all your eggs in one basket. Cater to everybody and you have more business and new business from word of mouth
    They do cater to everyone. You get to play the game for free. Thats catering to everyone. 
    Thats pretty short sighted. 

    For one, beta has paid a good amount. 

    Second, even if he hadnt, does that somehow invalidate his opinion?

    As a 4 year player, free or not, his opinion should be considered
    Not really, not if he doesn't pump money into the game. Those people are the ones that keep it going, not the freeloaders. I purchase VIP each month, and thats it. I dont expect my opinion to be taken too seriously because I dont pump thousands of dollars into the game. 
  • corytutor
    corytutor Posts: 414 Mover and Shaker
    How do you know he hasn't?

    I happen to know he has. As have i. So your 10$ opinion should be disregarded concerning beta, according to your own statement. Or better yet, just try not to make assumptions. 
  • Nick441234
    Nick441234 Posts: 1,496 Chairperson of the Boards
    corytutor said:
    How do you know he hasn't?

    I happen to know he has. As have i. So your 10$ opinion should be disregarded concerning beta, according to your own statement. Or better yet, just try not to make assumptions. 
    If he puts thousands of dollars into this game, then yes, they should listen to his opinion. And yes, my $10 opinion will be disregarded because my $10 doesn't keep the game running. Its a nice bonus for them and all those $10 add up, but they aren't what keeps this game running. 

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