Whelp, I have officially not renewed VIP

Quebbster

I was a VIP at the start of the year, then I left the game for several months. When I got back I still had a few weeks of rewards left, but when the VIP expired I realized there wasn't much Point in renewing - my main motivation was to get rid of the ingame ads, and those are gone now anyway.

bluewolf

mexus said:

I am renewing my VIP next week,
however I really think the VIP rewards could use some love - maybe scale with SHIELD Rank or Scale 5% for each continuous streak?

Of course more rewards would be awesome. First a few thousand people have to drop VIP so the devs feel a need to make it more appealing.

morgh

10_EFX_01 said:

Just spend 2 dollars and you'll still receive all of the intercept goodies.

Don't you get MORE then 5 times the rewards for VIP in comparison to buying the $2 offer?

Don't get me wrong - I don't think this is a great value overall, but in relation to their pricing of other stuff it seems at least fine.

GrimSkald

Mine expired two days ago and I did not renew.  I paid the $2 for the intercepts.

10_EFX_01

morgh said:

10_EFX_01 said:

Just spend 2 dollars and you'll still receive all of the intercept goodies.

Don't you get MORE then 5 times the rewards for VIP in comparison to buying the $2 offer?

Don't get me wrong - I don't think this is a great value overall, but in relation to their pricing of other stuff it seems at least fine.

I am not sure about that, I just know you get decent intercepts with just $2. I never heard anything about receiving 5 times more for VIP.

morgh

10_EFX_01 said:

I am not sure about that, I just know you get decent intercepts with just $2. I never heard anything about receiving 5 times more for VIP.

Ummm, noooo - I mean - for $2 you get 200 HP + intercepts, but for $10 you get a LT, like 500 HP (?) + some tokens/iso + intercepts - thus the total amount of rewards equals to more then simply five times what you would get by getting the $2 "deal" five times....

**** I explained it in such a way that I am not sure if I would understand it

Milk Jugz

morgh said:

10_EFX_01 said:

I am not sure about that, I just know you get decent intercepts with just $2. I never heard anything about receiving 5 times more for VIP.

Ummm, noooo - I mean - for $2 you get 200 HP + intercepts, but for $10 you get a LT, like 500 HP (?) + some tokens/iso + intercepts - thus the total amount of rewards equals to more then simply five times what you would get by getting the $2 "deal" five times....

tinykitty I explained it in such a way that I am not sure if I would understand it

You actually get 2 lts, and tokens, iso, hp, cp. Plus the intercepts, it really isn't that bad a deal. That being said I have about 10 before my decision time.... Leaning towards not continuing it after having it continuously since it started

Kahmon

And yet the game goes on.

10_EFX_01

morgh said:

10_EFX_01 said:

I am not sure about that, I just know you get decent intercepts with just $2. I never heard anything about receiving 5 times more for VIP.

Ummm, noooo - I mean - for $2 you get 200 HP + intercepts, but for $10 you get a LT, like 500 HP (?) + some tokens/iso + intercepts - thus the total amount of rewards equals to more then simply five times what you would get by getting the $2 "deal" five times....

tinykitty I explained it in such a way that I am not sure if I would understand it

Dude I'm talking about Shield Intercepts that you receive while playing PVE, I'm not referring to the 28 day to day VIP Access rewards. 
After a PVE match iron man gives a thank you and a reward for the D3 money support.

10_EFX_01

10_EFX_01 said:

morgh said:

10_EFX_01 said:

I am not sure about that, I just know you get decent intercepts with just $2. I never heard anything about receiving 5 times more for VIP.

Ummm, noooo - I mean - for $2 you get 200 HP + intercepts, but for $10 you get a LT, like 500 HP (?) + some tokens/iso + intercepts - thus the total amount of rewards equals to more then simply five times what you would get by getting the $2 "deal" five times....

tinykitty I explained it in such a way that I am not sure if I would understand it

Dude I'm talking about Shield Intercepts that you receive while playing PVE, I'm not referring to the 28 day to day VIP Access rewards. 
After a PVE match iron man gives a thank you and a reward for the D3 money support.

$2 = Shield Intercepts
$10 = 5x more Shield Intercepts?

larzilla

I too won't renew Vip.  Also several others in my alliance are on a spending hold until this is fixed.  I'm fine with the win system but 25=4* and 40=15cp make that happen and we will buy Starks and VIP again. I highly encourage everyone else to do the same.  Opinions and polls don't matter but money speaks volumes! 

Milk Jugz

10_EFX_01 said:

10_EFX_01 said:

morgh said:

10_EFX_01 said:

I am not sure about that, I just know you get decent intercepts with just $2. I never heard anything about receiving 5 times more for VIP.

Ummm, noooo - I mean - for $2 you get 200 HP + intercepts, but for $10 you get a LT, like 500 HP (?) + some tokens/iso + intercepts - thus the total amount of rewards equals to more then simply five times what you would get by getting the $2 "deal" five times....

tinykitty I explained it in such a way that I am not sure if I would understand it

Dude I'm talking about Shield Intercepts that you receive while playing PVE, I'm not referring to the 28 day to day VIP Access rewards. 
After a PVE match iron man gives a thank you and a reward for the D3 money support.

$2 = Shield Intercepts
$10 = 5x more Shield Intercepts?

You get the same from intercepts regardless of spending $2, $10, or $100. What @morgh is saying if you spend the extra $8 for vip instead of just $2, vip comes with 2 lts, a bunch of iso and hp, some cp, and it activates intercepts. Plus it increases character heal rates. It really isn't that bad of a deal.

10_EFX_01

Milk Jugz said:

10_EFX_01 said:

10_EFX_01 said:

morgh said:

10_EFX_01 said:

I am not sure about that, I just know you get decent intercepts with just $2. I never heard anything about receiving 5 times more for VIP.

Ummm, noooo - I mean - for $2 you get 200 HP + intercepts, but for $10 you get a LT, like 500 HP (?) + some tokens/iso + intercepts - thus the total amount of rewards equals to more then simply five times what you would get by getting the $2 "deal" five times....

tinykitty I explained it in such a way that I am not sure if I would understand it

Dude I'm talking about Shield Intercepts that you receive while playing PVE, I'm not referring to the 28 day to day VIP Access rewards. 
After a PVE match iron man gives a thank you and a reward for the D3 money support.

$2 = Shield Intercepts
$10 = 5x more Shield Intercepts?

You get the same from intercepts regardless of spending $2, $10, or $100. What @morgh is saying if you spend the extra $8 for vip instead of just $2, vip comes with 2 lts, a bunch of iso and hp, some cp, and it activates intercepts. Plus it increases character heal rates. It really isn't that bad of a deal.

I see, only paying $10 a month on a mobile game is a bit weird in my books.

D4Ni13

10_EFX_01 

I see, only paying $10 a month on a mobile game is a bit weird in my books.

It's not if you really enjoy the game. Some people pay way more on cigares or beer every month. Other pay on sporting bets, and so on. If you don't smoke and feel comfortable with spending this amount on a game, I don't see a problem in it. 

When I played Hattrick, a long long time ago, I used to pay something very similar to VIP here, for just some visual & searching enhancements. Yet I find this to be a better deal than that one. 

You lose money either way in life. You may consider that you 'invest' in your pleasure. At least that's what I do when I buy thing in games. Though I try to not cross the line and over spend. 

Not trying to convince you on anything, just an explanation of what I think about spending money on a game.

10_EFX_01

D4Ni13 said:

10_EFX_01 

I see, only paying $10 a month on a mobile game is a bit weird in my books.

It's not if you really enjoy the game. Some people pay way more on cigares or beer every month. Other pay on sporting bets, and so on. If you don't smoke and feel comfortable with spending this amount on a game, I don't see a problem in it. 

When I played Hattrick, a long long time ago, I used to pay something very similar to VIP here, for just some visual & searching enhancements. Yet I find this to be a better deal than that one. 

You lose money either way in life. You may consider that you 'invest' in your pleasure. At least that's what I do when I buy thing in games. Though I try to not cross the line and over spend. 

Not trying to convince you on anything, just an explanation of what I think about spending money on a game.

That's cool man, I really enjoy this game. 2 bucks is cool enough for me and anyone who recently picked up the game. I am entering 4* land so there really is no need to pay that much for this game. Plus the game has so many bugs, I really don't believe this is a 10 dollar a month game. Lol
Your justification has great facts, but there is a big butt for this game at the moment. Hence this thread.

D4Ni13

10_EFX_01 said:

That's cool man, I really enjoy this game. 2 bucks is cool enough for me and anyone who recently picked up the game. I am entering 4* land so there really is no need to pay that much for this game. Plus the game has so many bugs, I really don't believe this is a 10 dollar a month game. Lol
Your justification has great facts, but there is a big butt for this game at the moment. Hence this thread.

I understand. Was just saying that even if you would have given more to it, there was no reason to be ashamed or feel wierd about it. That's all. 

And trust me, this game is very light on bugs. I played games that had patches every month, and every patch was full of bugs. Eventually it was a reason to quit. MPQ is nowhere near that level. I, personally, don't encounter any bugs during my play (and I play daily), except maybe Daken's blue, which I come to think it is intended and not a bug, and really don't mind anymore. 

Do you encounter bugs that prevent you from playing ? Or prevent you from taking your rewards ? That's the level I'm talking about, and that is when you call out a game with bugs. 

Alsmir

larzilla said:

I too won't renew Vip.  Also several others in my alliance are on a spending hold until this is fixed.  I'm fine with the win system but 25=4* and 40=15cp make that happen and we will buy Starks and VIP again. I highly encourage everyone else to do the same.  Opinions and polls don't matter but money speaks volumes! 

Nothing is broken in the first place. You just don't like the change, but the game doesn't resolve around you.

Cactus_Jack_87

I'll keep VIPing, only because I'm more interested in what I get for $10 then sticking it to the devs for the awful PVP changes. I basically look at it as buying a couple LTs for 5 bucks each, plus a lot of extra bonus stuff. Good for everyone that votes with the wallets, though.

On a completely unrelated note, I see this game lasting for almost exactly one more year. Of course, I base this off of nothing, it's just a gut feeling I have.

madsalad

Cactus_Jack_87 said:

I'll keep VIPing, only because I'm more interested in what I get for $10 then sticking it to the devs for the awful PVP changes. I basically look at it as buying a couple LTs for 5 bucks each, plus a lot of extra bonus stuff. Good for everyone that votes with the wallets, though.

On a completely unrelated note, I see this game lasting for almost exactly one more year. Of course, I base this off of nothing, it's just a gut feeling I have.

I'm starting to have FOMO from this game, but in the opposite direction. Rather than worrying about what I'm missing out on in the game because I've let my VIP lapse, all the changes - exponentially more time being spent for less rewards gotten - I'm having FOMO about real life. The changes are essentially driving me away from the game. If that's what D3 was shooting for, they're on the right track.

Also, no single 5* should be boosted for 4 weeks straight. That's just straight up stupid to the health of PVP environment.

larzilla

Alsmir said:

larzilla said:

I too won't renew Vip.  Also several others in my alliance are on a spending hold until this is fixed.  I'm fine with the win system but 25=4* and 40=15cp make that happen and we will buy Starks and VIP again. I highly encourage everyone else to do the same.  Opinions and polls don't matter but money speaks volumes! 

Nothing is broken in the first place. You just don't like the change, but the game doesn't resolve around you.

Nothings broken lol ok.  40 wins first off equals twice the play for less rewards.  Now let's get to why the game is broken.  Cl levels don't promote comparative play.  By removing the Cp from progression you get top rosters joining lower Cl brackets for better placement preventing better placement from lower level players (I personally do Cl8 but removing this reward from progression is still counter productive.) Now they added boosted 5*s. Once you reach  certain points (or rank rather) that's all you face.  I can only hope I lose enough points to grind a few more wins. This goes back and forth which drags out the grind even longer.  This new system makes getting both progression and placement a chore.  When a game feels like work and no fun it starts to ruin it.  I don't care what you say this change is heavily unbalanced. Just because noobs want a 4* doesn't mean this is a good change. I could go on but there's no point.  Those that haven't reached a certain point in this game won't get it.  I may also add that those that don't play pvp to be competitive won't get it either, but hey if you enjoy twice the grind for less rewards have fun. It doesn't change what I said the realistic reward level is 25 wins=4* 40=15cp, and putting that cp back in progressing will go a long way with balancing out the cl brackets.