@Brigby @Oktagon Rarely do you have people like myself, Bken, Shteev, and Ohboy in complete agreement that an impending change is a huge mistake. Please take heed and don't make HoR a legacy event.
If you want to make some quality of life improvements before the Ixalan release:
1. Use a different event as the weekly coalition event (Your choice.. literally anything other than HoR) but keep it as standard.
2. Rotate the color wheel in HoR (and other PvP events) to at least give us variety
3. Rerun HoD or literally any other PvE or monthly PvP event on the weekend. Hell, even rerun Rishkar's Expertise event so that some more people can get that card before it rotates out of standard. Or even run the old Saheeli Rai challenge. We are hanging on by a thread here... give us something fun to do or fun to chase!
You don't have to run the same event all of the time! I know a few people complained about lack of clarity for upcoming events, but they are the same ones screaming for a change!
This also gets to a larger issue. It seems that the game designers spend 99% of the time focusing on the cards and mechanics while all events, scheduling, etc are an afterthought. This is completely incorrect. 90% of the players will never play any specific card. All of them that stick around will play the actual events. There needs to be a huge focus on the events and other content! Please!
Dave808 said: . I'm still not so thrilled to have to pander to noobs just so they can compete, but I get what you're saying. Maybe I'm being too selfish here but I figure if I can grind it out and spend money on the game to get killer cards and build killer decks, so can anyone else. It just rubs me the wrong way knowing that we dedicated og's who have spent tons of time and money on this game have to be handicapped just so noobs can compete. It feels like pandering and hand holding.
Dave808 said: I guess I don't really understand. Why all the hate for HoR legacy? Clearly I'm in the minority here but I think it's a great idea. I spent a lot of time and money collecting amazing legacy cards back in the day and not being able to use them in so many events is probably my biggest complaint about this game. If I had it my way anybody could use any cards and any decks in any event. Otherwise what's the point of spending any money in this game if you know ahead of time whatever great cards you buy or collect will just become obsolete and unusable in just a few months? That's why I have not spent a dime on this game in the last 6 months and I never will again. Can anybody explain to me why you all seem so against it? Asking honestly.
bken1234 said: My other question -- why is RotGP being extended by a day -- isn't the point to shorten events?
tfg76 said: It´s also important to remember that the prizes were better "back in the day", meaning people had a lot more access to mythics than they do today.Also, I resent the talk about "noobs" here. The rampant access to SOI/OGW/ORI mythics were during a very short time span (not sure exactly, but less than 1 year). Basing a whole format on the people that were active during that short time seems unfair and boring.That being said, the cycling decks of today are better than anything legacy can offer, so it´s not that hard to win, it´s just that the objectives are very unsuited to legacy play. In say, Terrors in the Shadows, this is not a problem.Just a thought: How do people feel about legacy with banned lists (i.e. Pig, Olivia, New Perspectives, Drake Haven, BTB, SA++)?
Krishna said: tfg76 said: It´s also important to remember that the prizes were better "back in the day", meaning people had a lot more access to mythics than they do today.Also, I resent the talk about "noobs" here. The rampant access to SOI/OGW/ORI mythics were during a very short time span (not sure exactly, but less than 1 year). Basing a whole format on the people that were active during that short time seems unfair and boring.That being said, the cycling decks of today are better than anything legacy can offer, so it´s not that hard to win, it´s just that the objectives are very unsuited to legacy play. In say, Terrors in the Shadows, this is not a problem.Just a thought: How do people feel about legacy with banned lists (i.e. Pig, Olivia, New Perspectives, Drake Haven, BTB, SA++)? +1 for ban list. Until the AI figures out how to use DH and NP (i.e. never), it's actually an easy win. It's not a card that ruins your freaking day like Deploy the Gatewatch pulling Olivia followed by Emrakul. (there's 3 for the list right there)
Kinesia said: Or instead of a hard ban list a slightly restricted one where you can only use those cards with 1 Node in an event. No putting Pig on all five nodes, forcing choice.
Ohboy said: Kinesia said: Or instead of a hard ban list a slightly restricted one where you can only use those cards with 1 Node in an event. No putting Pig on all five nodes, forcing choice. Once a week! Should end up with some really innovative decks.
Kinesia said: Ohboy said: Kinesia said: Or instead of a hard ban list a slightly restricted one where you can only use those cards with 1 Node in an event. No putting Pig on all five nodes, forcing choice. Once a week! Should end up with some really innovative decks. There _are_ implementation problems though, as much as I like the idea, how do you change a card between decks nicely? (Oh, actually, the metaphor even works, doesn't it?)
Ohboy said: Kinesia said: Ohboy said: Kinesia said: Or instead of a hard ban list a slightly restricted one where you can only use those cards with 1 Node in an event. No putting Pig on all five nodes, forcing choice. Once a week! Should end up with some really innovative decks. There _are_ implementation problems though, as much as I like the idea, how do you change a card between decks nicely? (Oh, actually, the metaphor even works, doesn't it?) Greyed over cards?I don't think it's actually that hard to do. They already filter by standard and legacy. It's a matter of implementing it on an individual level and adding a timer.Just throwing out ideas. We both know it's unlikely these things get taken seriously before the sun engulfs earth.
Legacy events are a PASS. Legacy was supposed to be for PVE only.
It's almost like they don't want us to play the game anymore!
(Seriously, I'm pretty close to quitting at this point.)
julianus said: Did they change their minds on the next HOR event? I noticed that the sign up screen still shows it as limited to standard cards.
PhoenixRisen said: Systematically, what's going on? Why are event start/end times changing on us without any notice whatever?? We need to prepare for these things. My team believed we had that extra hour, per usual, to get our returning from vacation player back in ... but alas, to no avail with these obscure, random event time changes (it's been happening routinely now ... even TG has seen a change). Unannounced changes are never acceptable. This game is already in the sewer -- it cannot sink much further! -- from where it goes henceforth is solely based on communication. I don't understand how getting that last-minute change to make HoR standard again (thank you! Though, it was more likely never correctly implemented correctly in the first place.) altered the start/end time of every active event ... these continuing errors are incredulous and incomprehensible. #noconfidence , #nofaithSigned,Deeply concerned lover of all things MTG