No more first completetion reward for pve

I wonder if this is just for this event or is it permanent?
Also the reward for simulation 04 has been nerf again, first it was 5000, then 2000 now 1000.
Was player getting too much ISO-8 or these ISO-8 have been magically shifted somewhere else?
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  • Jonny1Punch
    Jonny1Punch Posts: 440 Mover and Shaker
    edited May 2014
    This is ridiculous. How "UNGENEROUS" can they get? I know it seems petty but I really looked forward to those completion rewards it was usually only 200 ISO but every little bit helps. This actually really bothers me...... Almost as much as the fun-draining level 400 enemies in PVE that makes this game a dreaded chore instead of a pleasurable gaming experience I looked forward too. I'm still trying to hold on for hope but they are not making it easy.
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    This is ridiculous. How greedy can they get? I know it seems petty but I really looked forward to those completion rewards it was usually only 200 ISO but every little bit helps. This actually really bothers me...... Almost as much as the fun-draining level 400 enemies in PVE that makes this game a dreaded chore instead of a pleasurable gaming experience I looked forward too. I'm still trying to hold on for hope but they are not making it easy.

    Not really fair to call them greedy, considering that you're complaining that you're getting less for free.
  • ZenBrillig wrote:
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    This is ridiculous. How greedy can they get? I know it seems petty but I really looked forward to those completion rewards it was usually only 200 ISO but every little bit helps. This actually really bothers me...... Almost as much as the fun-draining level 400 enemies in PVE that makes this game a dreaded chore instead of a pleasurable gaming experience I looked forward too. I'm still trying to hold on for hope but they are not making it easy.

    Not really fair to call them greedy, considering that you're complaining that you're getting less for free.

    Yeah, "ungenerous" is probably a more proper word..minus the whole "not a real word thing..." Lol..
  • If Simulator Basic still have first time completion bonus then the big iso 8 mission would probably award 1000 iso 8 instead of 2000 iso 8 to make up for it, and players would never be the wiser. Sure, you'd notice it's rewarded less, but it's gone down before too.

    In the end the amount of iso 8 you get is dependent on what D3 think is good. If they don't take it out of the first time completion bonus, they'll just take it out of something else.
  • Spoit
    Spoit Posts: 3,441 Chairperson of the Boards
    Phantron wrote:
    If Simulator Basic still have first time completion bonus then the big iso 8 mission would probably award 1000 iso 8 instead of 2000 iso 8 to make up for it, and players would never be the wiser. Sure, you'd notice it's rewarded less, but it's gone down before too.

    In the end the amount of iso 8 you get is dependent on what D3 think is good. If they don't take it out of the first time completion bonus, they'll just take it out of something else.
    See: how when trying to expand the alliance rewards to 2, they had to actually reduce the ammount of HP handed out,rather than letting those extra 20 people net like a couple thousand HP total. NET
  • Jonny1Punch
    Jonny1Punch Posts: 440 Mover and Shaker
    Pump the brakes people I'm not attacking anyone I love this game very much I just really loved those completion bonuses as I am an ISO-hound. I changed my phrasing to UNGENEROUS as I saw the error in my ways..... Now stop acting like I'm trying to hold you upside down and steal your lunch money. We're on the same team I just don't want a trend of less and less rewards to start. : )
  • I don't like them taking away the first time completion bonus but ultimately there's some number of iso they decided is appropriate for people to get and if they want to decrease it, they'll take it away from somewhere and there's no point to cry about spoiled milk. Notice all these 70 iso 8 award instead of the usual 100? I'm sure that's part of their effort to decrease the iso8 we get too.
  • Same problem. Another possible change without communication. Instead, a lot of forum bickering based on speculation. The more I look around, this and scaling seems to account for most of the negative feedback on here now.


    Not 1oo% sure this a change, all the events becoming one big marathon blur. Apparently, "I,m in a race." --Rowan Atkinson
  • I don't even realize it is gone before reading this thread icon_e_sad.gif
    Why would they do this, cutting ISO8 rewards just to get people to buy more is just sick and wrong.. Not to mention the crazy scaling and stuff.. Bad move devs, bad move..
  • Jonny1Punch
    Jonny1Punch Posts: 440 Mover and Shaker
    I agree wholeheartedly with you guys. It's not simply bickering or negative venting..... When something you love doesn't love you back then thats a problem. The Devs Make the bulk of their profits with cover packs and I understand this is a business. But why do people keep buying cover packs,boosts,health packs,tokens etc? Because we love the game and the marvel universe and enjoy building up these characters and competing. For me personally it's the little things that keep me hooked.... The progression rewards, the ISO bonuses,completion bonuses and tournament prizes etc. So when I continue to invest time and money and support the developers which I'm proud to do.... I have a right to speak up if I feel we start losing too many things. The enemy scaling to ridiculously unfun levels with a noticeable lack of rewards is alarming to me. That's just my opinion. I like a fair fight and a balanced playing field. A good amount of "give and take" is necessary to keep a game like this going strong.
  • This sucks icon_e_sad.gif I hope they bring back the first time completion bonus in next round.
  • I don't understand why they keep injecting more expensive goods into the economy while simultaneously contracting the money supply.

    They don't ever undo any of these types of changes so their data must be telling them it's a good idea. Banksters icon_e_biggrin.gif
  • Phantron wrote:
    I don't like them taking away the first time completion bonus but ultimately there's some number of iso they decided is appropriate for people to get and if they want to decrease it, they'll take it away from somewhere and there's no point to cry about spoiled milk. Notice all these 70 iso 8 award instead of the usual 100? I'm sure that's part of their effort to decrease the iso8 we get too.

    There's no point in using the forums to call out about a change you don't like? Paraphrasing: "The Devs can and will do what the Devs can and will do. You all should just roll over and accept it, and keep quiet."

    Do you actually read back anything you write? I swear, you can be the biggest troll on here sometimes.
  • I may be out to lunch here (which isn't a bad thing - I like lunch)

    but I believe the first round in Simulators, the one-off "gold" ISO reward was 1,000 ISO. Second go-round, it was 2000. Speculation only - third go will have it at the magic 5K

    or if I am out to lunch, I would like onion rings with my hamburger, please.
  • MaxCavalera
    MaxCavalera Posts: 425 Mover and Shaker
    Vinny J wrote:
    I may be out to lunch here (which isn't a bad thing - I like lunch)

    but I believe the first round in Simulators, the one-off "gold" ISO reward was 1,000 ISO. Second go-round, it was 2000. Speculation only - third go will have it at the magic 5K

    or if I am out to lunch, I would like onion rings with my hamburger, please.

    I think they were just 1k for easy and 2k for hard mode? I don't have them both open right now or i would confirm.

    Edit: Yes it was confirmed thx locked. So don't get your hopes up for a pay out in round 3 icon_e_wink.gif
  • It makes sense though. I haven't been around too long, but it seems like they're running events pretty much non-stop now, with maybe a day off in between. Where it used to be many days between events.
    They are likely giving away the same, or more ISO, it's just in smaller increments and you have to play a lot more regularly to get it.
    Which is exactly what they want, daily players.
  • slight off topic : The alliance daily rewards also reduced from 50 iso per member to 10 iso per member. ZZzzzzzz
  • over_clocked
    over_clocked Posts: 3,961
    Hannybal wrote:
    slight off topic : The alliance daily rewards also reduced from 50 iso per member to 10 iso per member. ZZzzzzzz
    It was 25 iso originally, not 50.
  • Hannybal wrote:
    slight off topic : The alliance daily rewards also reduced from 50 iso per member to 10 iso per member. ZZzzzzzz

    200 free ISO is better than nothing.
  • But worse than 1000 free ISO.

    The raking back of rewards is getting ridiculous. First it was 2* covers from tournaments, then pushing the third 3* cover from events to Alliance reward, removing the HP from PvP progression rewards at 600 points, then LR tokens, then changing the alliance daily reward down, now no first time completion ISO reward (causing many to play only the required nodes to curb scaling and still placing in the top 5), and a change to featured PvP tokens where they are basically Heroic tokens now, and not targeted feature character pull chance.

    I understand that a freemium game is in it to make money, but they are seriously trying to pound the free out of freemium.