R131 Release Notes (7/17/17)

granne

Anon said:

So Mockingbird I guess. What will her powers be?

I like to think that she'll be a hard counter to Clint. Just because.

zodiac339

granne said:

Anon said:

So Mockingbird I guess. What will her powers be?

I like to think that she'll be a hard counter to Clint. Just because.

In other words, an anti-countdown character?

DrDevilDinosaur

zodiac339 said:

granne said:

Anon said:

So Mockingbird I guess. What will her powers be?

I like to think that she'll be a hard counter to Clint. Just because.

In other words, an anti-countdown character?

This would also go a way towards shifting away from the Carol+Countdowns meta without necessarily relying on powercreep. That is, by starting to introduce characters which hard counter the older members of current 12 (or those just recently moved out), there's some incentive to chase the newer characters.

Consider; it's certainly possible for people to have Carol & Medusa (or Coluson) covered up to level 300 or higher. That's a pairing which is still considered strong even when neither are boosted. If the newer characters provide some hard counter against that combo it means that those players will still have something to chase after and that newer players making their way into that tier will be earning characters which will actually help them against the players which have been their longer.

If the latest 12 keeps introducing characters which hard counter those which came beforehand then Demiurge are able to (essentially) define the meta themselves without  as much powercreep as we've seen before. This lets them extend the lifespan of the 4* tier for quite a bit longer (at least until they come full circle and find that countdowns are the hard counter for whatever they just released) and that buys them a bit more time to work out how to tackle the 5* tier and that transition.

Beer40

Diamond = M'Kraan crystal
Cs = Christopher Summers

4* Corsair confirmed.

purplemur

Anon said:

The clue is so obvious to Emma Frost that I don't think it's her. 

The capital C is interesting. Crystal maybe?

I think with the Inhumans dropping (in IMAX even!!) it could very well be Crystal, the Exquisite Elemental. She manipulates matter, excuse me, the four elements. diamond is a crystal etc. BUT...
-Seems to be spoiled as Mockingbird. thats cool. anti-countdown: yes we need an OBW powerset for the 4*tier 

Colossus nerf is boggling.
This is what your focusing your efforts on? Why is this a feature prioritization? you could have taken almost any power and improved it for the same amount of work. Make the game BETTER. Why this reversion of quality? what metric reveals that an underused 3* needs to be toned down? More player disdain from Mr. Austin and Co.= store buttons get even more work while bugs flourish and spider characters STILL languish from lack of synergy, players still burning 7/8/9 covers even when they overwhelmingly support a change to cover swapping (even willing to pay to swap), MMR is still total kitty. but now Quake can't pick which color she destroys because....? 

jamesh

So presumably the Colossus change isn't because they think he's too powerful: rather, it either breaks some other character or makes some other more powerful than desired.  We'd be looking for an ability that:

1. requires user interaction to fire off.
2. that you'd prefer to spend 13 black AP and be sent airborne to use rather than firing directly.
3. that the benefits would outweigh the opportunity cost of putting Colossus on your team.
   

I don't remember people complaining about Colossus in the past, so it is most likely a new character.  I don't see anything that would match that in 5* Spidey, Vulture, or Sandman, so perhaps it gives a clue about a power of an upcoming character?

Moon Roach

STOPTHIS said:

Dragon_Nexus said:

Hmm...okay but...where is everyone getting a lullaby from?

I assume it just means that they already know who it's going to be from data mining and this is how they're letting the rest of us in on it.

Ooh, parallel construction.  I like it.

Wait a minute.  Don't diamonds sparkle?  In the right light aren't they Dazzling?

Enderikari

Updated -
Is it just me, or does the damage numbers now process faster than before. It seems like the damage is shown on my opponent while the gems are still in motion.

darkwatcherDEZ

Hmmm... We initially read the Colossus statement as nerf, but based on the example it sounds more like they are reducing the need for secondary user input. Using the example given and substituting KKhan, she gets tossed airborne and the game randomly selects from her active abilities. If the game randomly selects "Inhuman Stretchiness" then a secondary input to select a tile for effect is required. The change merely randomizes the selection.
Granted, this could be considered a nerf against strategy, but there was really no initial way of knowing that ability would be picked, and chances are you REALLY wanted "Embiggened Bash" to go off anyway.

As others have said...perhaps there was a bug caused by Vulture

Brigby

*Updated to Final Release Notes. No Changes.

Yepyep

My question is more basic:

IS THIS UPDATE WORKING ON iOS?

mega ghost

I think if it were Mockingbird, all of the related posts would have been deleted by now. That's how they've always handled things when there has even been a whiff of datamining. When Agent Venom was released I guessed it pretty quickly from the clue (I believe all I posted was "Agent Venom?"), and my post was quickly removed and I got a warning.

Blindman13

DapperChewie said:

And scuttlebutt around the internet suggests that Fox is loosening up on their iron grip of the X-Men, so here's hoping that this is Emma Frost. 

Fox only has film and TV rights for X-Men, not sure how that would have an effect on them adding characters to the game. 

Jsh2014

I'm gonna say its Rachael Leighton Version of DiamondBack. Brigby did say we're getting several Spider-Man foes 

Starfury

Blindman13 said:

DapperChewie said:

And scuttlebutt around the internet suggests that Fox is loosening up on their iron grip of the X-Men, so here's hoping that this is Emma Frost. 

Fox only has film and TV rights for X-Men, not sure how that would have an effect on them adding characters to the game. 

As far as I understand it, the issue isn't Fox not allowing X-Men in these games, it's Marvel not wanting to promote X-Men when they've got the MCU going.

MushroomGenius808

Diamond... "Shine bright like a diamond"... Rhianna... "Riri"... 5* Riri Williams confirmed. /eyeroll

Don't want Mockingbird either, but at least she'd be new.

Can we please just get Emma?

Yepyep

Yepyep said:

My question is more basic:

IS THIS UPDATE WORKING ON iOS?

Sorry, I was rushing and my little smiley and big thank you got clipped off. I didn't mean to be rude!

zodiac339

Sure, get Emma Frost. Game rating goes up to AO.

Straycat

darkwatcherDEZ said:

Hmmm... We initially read the Colossus statement as nerf, but based on the example it sounds more like they are reducing the need for secondary user input. Using the example given and substituting KKhan, she gets tossed airborne and the game randomly selects from her active abilities. If the game randomly selects "Inhuman Stretchiness" then a secondary input to select a tile for effect is required. The change merely randomizes the selection.
Granted, this could be considered a nerf against strategy, but there was really no initial way of knowing that ability would be picked, and chances are you REALLY wanted "Embiggened Bash" to go off anyway.

As others have said...perhaps there was a bug caused by Vulture

I once fastball special with Kamala Khan I think. I wanted to get a better look at the board so I hit cancel, and basically lost the free ability. So in that case, this change is a save against making that dumb mistake

Vhailorx

Boo on the nerf for colossus (presumably this is about a conflict with some new power, but it still sucks).

And BOOOOO for the 5* doc oc nerf.  His green is already way too complicated to pull off.  It should be an insta-win even in wave nodes.