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  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards
    Sounds like Wizards is signaling a core set return.. perhaps when they do that PQ will replace origins with the new core set...
  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards
    Gormhaus said:
    We should get another free deck slot if they are going to require us to use special decks for pvp
    You can build a deck for the event that is saved the entire time.  That's exactly how it was in the past.  Not sure I buy the argument that they owe us a deck slot.  If you are using the same PW in 2 concurrent events just build 2 different event decks and you are done!

  • Sarahschmara
    Sarahschmara Posts: 554 Critical Contributor
    Another thing to consider about paper MtG; there are typically some older cards that are re-released in newer sets, right?
  • Gotcha617
    Gotcha617 Posts: 88 Match Maker
    EDHdad said:
    Origins is Puzzle Quest's Alpha.

    There are no more base sets, BTW.  Standard is now just "the last 4 blocks."

    Base Set + Last 2 blocks was the way they did things when they had 3-set blocks.  Now, blocks are 2 sets.  Origins was combined with Dragons of Tarkir to form one "Block" which rotated out last September.
    Origins is overall the weakest set on a whole...alpha is obserdly op. Not even close to a comparison.
  • THEMAGICkMAN
    THEMAGICkMAN Posts: 697 Critical Contributor
    Sarahschmara said:
    Another thing to consider about paper MtG; there are typically some older cards that are re-released in newer sets, right?
    Yes reprints are pretty common (as well as functional reprints - cards with a different name but exactly the same text as another card) however no reprints have occurred in PQ yet, to my knowledge. 
  • tfg76
    tfg76 Posts: 258 Mover and Shaker
    I think that they, as soon as possible, should create an Origins2, removing some over-powered cards (TSN, Pig) and adding some staples used by existing planeswalkers (a few werewolves, some of the lifelink guys, etc). Then we´d have a more balanced environment. Truthfully, this should likely have been done before standard even started.
  • AngelForge
    AngelForge Posts: 325 Mover and Shaker
    edited May 2017
    Decimator of the Provinces is SOI (Eldritch moon). No need to nerf anymore. ;-)
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    tfg76 said:
    I think that they, as soon as possible, should create an Origins2, removing some over-powered cards (TSN, Pig) and adding some staples used by existing planeswalkers (a few werewolves, some of the lifelink guys, etc). Then we´d have a more balanced environment. Truthfully, this should likely have been done before standard even started.
    The problem with werewolves is, that they're all too rubbish, or too good. Vehicles are the same, except none of them are too good. Card balance is apparently hard.

    In principle, tho, I think an 'Origins 2' set is a good idea. I imagine that WOTC will make them adhere to paper MTG releases, so the ACTUAL base set available in MTGPQ will have to be whatever the base set in paper is at the time, but I don't see a reason that MTGPQ can't introduce a supplementary list of MTGPQ:Standard legal cards, and maybe even sell boosters of them.
  • Dropspot
    Dropspot Posts: 200 Tile Toppler
    That's really a good idea. At least for staple cards, but not op cards. Black cheap removal, Mana changers, black discards. There's a list of cards that could still in play and don't have a huge impact being there. 

    I think this is not needed in paper cause the size of sets are much bigger. But in mtgpq this could be a great solution.
  • Phase
    Phase Posts: 157 Tile Toppler
    I'd be down with an "Origins 2", hopefully with less reprints though. I'm not sure the original Origins set in PQ is strong enough to hold up forever- they will have to update it sometime.

    Tinfoil hat on: Rumors going around that WotC wants to bring back core sets in the paper game. If that happens, consider an "Origins 2"-type set a lock.
  • EDHdad
    EDHdad Posts: 609 Critical Contributor
    I think it would be fine if they let people play with commons and uncommons from any set, and only Mythics and Rares from the recent sets.  Or even, if there was a format where you only played with commons and uncommons.

    I don't think they have the infrastructure to do this right now, so limiting the sets is a good experiment.
  • wickedwitch74
    wickedwitch74 Posts: 267 Mover and Shaker
    I mentioned this before... they should have "pauper" events that only allow commons. This would really level the playing field and let n00bs compete, while allowing more seasoned players to stretch their deckbuilding muscles.


  • EDHdad
    EDHdad Posts: 609 Critical Contributor
    At the very least, I'd like to see some sort of event where we play with those "beginner level" decks which are clogging up all of my deck slots.
  • madwren
    madwren Posts: 2,259 Chairperson of the Boards
    EDHdad said:
    At the very least, I'd like to see some sort of event where we play with those "beginner level" decks which are clogging up all of my deck slots.

    Yeah, it could be interesting if they forced us all to play with the beginner decks. Pick whatever planeswalker you want in each color and go to town.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    madwren said:
    EDHdad said:
    At the very least, I'd like to see some sort of event where we play with those "beginner level" decks which are clogging up all of my deck slots.

    Yeah, it could be interesting if they forced us all to play with the beginner decks. Pick whatever planeswalker you want in each color and go to town.
    I'm sure we'd all love that as much as we did playing with the preconstructed Saheeli deck.
  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,959 Chairperson of the Boards
    I dunno, I think our expectations wouldn't be as high for its viability as a deck that was touted as this super kick butt deck that the Saheeli precon was supposed to be. 
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    No one complained about Saheeli vs Saheeli. 

    The bulk of the complaints was about saheeli's deck not having answers for the the super broken runaway carriage deck everyone and their grandmother was running. 
  • madwren
    madwren Posts: 2,259 Chairperson of the Boards
    shteev said:
    madwren said:
    EDHdad said:
    At the very least, I'd like to see some sort of event where we play with those "beginner level" decks which are clogging up all of my deck slots.

    Yeah, it could be interesting if they forced us all to play with the beginner decks. Pick whatever planeswalker you want in each color and go to town.
    I'm sure we'd all love that as much as we did playing with the preconstructed Saheeli deck.

    But with Saheeli we were playing against full-power decks. If we all just played the same set of gimpy decks, it might be a hoot every now and then.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    madwren said:
    But with Saheeli we were playing against full-power decks. If we all just played the same set of gimpy decks, it might be a hoot every now and then.
    Well, I don't begrudge that experience to anyone who relishes it, but there's a reason I don't play my alt account any more.
  • EDHdad
    EDHdad Posts: 609 Critical Contributor
    @shteev - because you don't need to see when the last Quick Battle bracket is about to begin?

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