Tezzeret the Schemer

Alve

wereotter wrote:

buscemi wrote:

The funny things about Tezzeret is that he was already going to be broken by BtB+SA even before Baral came along.

Kudos to the devs on inflating his mana gains, tho, otherwise he might not look too broken to newbies.

Based on what we're seeing, he's got a total of +9 in mana bonuses.

Look at other recent planeswalkers:
Nissa, Vital Force
+3
0
0
+2
+4
Total of +9

Liliana, the Last Hope (similar distributions are on new Chandra and Jace)
0
+4
+5
0
0
Total of +9

Nahiri, the Harbinger
+4
0
-1
+4
+1
Overall +8 when black considered.

Yes, he's stronger than most other dual-colored planeswalkers, I'll admit that, and yes all these planeswalkers are a far cry ahead of the total bonuses of +5 from the origins planeswalkers, but he seems about in line for current planeswalkers in general.

I don't think it's fair to compare him to mono-colored pws. I feel that they should have better mana gains to make up for the lack of a second color. Given his color combination and powerful skills, making him a +3/+3 like Kiora or (recent!) Dovin really wouldn't hurt him.

morgue427

i havent mastered him yet just got to 57 and honestly i am stuggling to get mana for cards at times, granted way i play tends to be more towards dening the ai big matches so i miss good ones for me, but still feeling it. and really first ability wasnt maxed out till level 56? still working at times he just feels kind of second class to me will have to try more stuff i guess

ridfrenzy

I don't know why people are **** about Tezz's mana gains when Saheeli is ridiculous in comparison.

buscemi

ridfrenzy wrote:

I don't know why people are tinykitty about Tezz's mana gains when Saheeli is ridiculous in comparison.

Start a thread, people will jump in.

It's difficult to be outraged by everything that's wrong with this game art the same time.

octal9

morgue427 wrote:

really first ability wasnt maxed out till level 56? still working at times he just feels kind of second class to me

All non-Origins planeswalkers follow the same skill-up pattern; all max out their 1/2/3 skills at 56/58/60 respectively.

wereotter

Alve wrote:

wereotter wrote:

buscemi wrote:

The funny things about Tezzeret is that he was already going to be broken by BtB+SA even before Baral came along.

Kudos to the devs on inflating his mana gains, tho, otherwise he might not look too broken to newbies.

Based on what we're seeing, he's got a total of +9 in mana bonuses.

Look at other recent planeswalkers:
Nissa, Vital Force
+3
0
0
+2
+4
Total of +9

Liliana, the Last Hope (similar distributions are on new Chandra and Jace)
0
+4
+5
0
0
Total of +9

Nahiri, the Harbinger
+4
0
-1
+4
+1
Overall +8 when black considered.

Yes, he's stronger than most other dual-colored planeswalkers, I'll admit that, and yes all these planeswalkers are a far cry ahead of the total bonuses of +5 from the origins planeswalkers, but he seems about in line for current planeswalkers in general.

I don't think it's fair to compare him to mono-colored pws. I feel that they should have better mana gains to make up for the lack of a second color. Given his color combination and powerful skills, making him a +3/+3 like Kiora or (recent!) Dovin really wouldn't hurt him.

I did compare him to Nahiri who's a dual color planeswalker, and he's only one ahead of her, but also there's Saheeli with her gains at:
+1
+4
+1
+4
+1

That gives Saheeli a total of +11 compared to his +9 and Nahiri's +8. Honestly I think some of these planeswalkers need to have what color they are and what skills they employ considered. Kiora doesn't need +9 overall mana bonuses because her first ability puts you 12 mana ahead of your opponent and she has access to the best ramping spells in the game. Dovin additionally doesn't need it AS much as his first ability creates 6 mana. Nahiri, Tezzeret, and Saheeli all have no mana producing planeswalker abilities. I do think that it's fair to compare two color planeswalkers to single colored ones largely because playing high cost cards shouldn't be restrained to single colored planeswalkers.

morgue427

i didnt know that about the abilites getting the last one so late just thought it would be sooner is all, mana gain isnt bad really not as good a rai but not off by much.