Feeling the 4* transition/ISO pain

Dormammu

Yikes, just fully covered another 4-star (Winter Soldier) out of sheer luck with a vault token. He gives me five fully-covered 4-stars and not enough ISO to champ even one of them. With another five 4-stars at 12 covers, I'm starting to feel the pinch!

This is not a complaint or a cry for more ISO. Deciding who gets the priority is part of the fun.

Anyone else in a similar boat? I have eight 4-stars champed and a loooong way to go, but I'll have some decisions to make very, very soon regarding how I spend my precious ISO.

13 Covers
Devil Dino (not a priority)
Drax (I like Drax - medium priority)
Ghost Rider (low priority)
War Machine (medium priority)
Winter Soldier (medium-high priority)

12 covers
Ant-Man (medium-high priority)
Carnage (low priority)
Moon Knight (medium priority)
Nova (medium priority)
X-23 (high priority)

Orion

Don't sleep on Nova - he's a powerhouse, especially when boosted. He's much better than the other 9 on that list.

smkspy

Likewise Ant Man is a pve beast when boosted.

drag0n41

I have 5 as well with 3 having extra covers.

Spider-Woman (3 covers)
Blade (2 covers)
War Machine (1 cover)
Venom
Ghost Rider

I plan to champ Blade when I get the ISO, hope to get enough to champ Spider-Woman as well, but might need to sell a cover or 2 of hers.

Orion

drag0n41 wrote:

I have 5 as well with 3 having extra covers.

Spider-Woman (3 covers)
Blade (2 covers)
War Machine (1 cover)
Venom
Ghost Rider

I plan to champ Blade when I get the ISO, hope to get enough to champ Spider-Woman as well, but might need to sell a cover or 2 of hers.

How many 4* champs do you already have? After a certain point, playability takes a backseat to available covers. If you already have most of the top 4*s champed, then go ahead and champ Spider-Woman next.

SummerGlau

I have no 4 Star Champs
All of my Max Covered 4's are either Vaulted or Limited (Devil Dino, Eddie Brock,Hulkbuster,Cyclops,Nova and ChoHulk)

X-23 Needs 1 cover (have her as my only favorited 4, 18 LT's in no bonuses) (5/4/3)
Kingpin needs 1 Cover but has two powers maxxed (2/5/5)
Red Hulk needs 1 cover (3/5/4)

Peggy will get her 12th Cover (3/3/5), SW already has 12 (3/5/4)

I still have 4 max covered 3's to Champion (once I feed Thanos 9200 more ISO), plus Hawkguy (2/3/3)

Dormammu

Orion wrote:

Don't sleep on Nova - he's a powerhouse, especially when boosted. He's much better than the other 9 on that list.

Consider your advice well-heeded!

OneLastGambit

I have 22 and working on making c4ge 23.

Also got 2 war machine covers in my queue to make him 24 and a wasp cover waiting to make her 25.

I'm doing these all back to back and they all started from level 70. Its not fun chain champing.

JohnnyBlood

From my experience, I'd say Nova, Moon Knight and X-23 are all worthy ISO investments (too bad none of them are currently available with LTs). Ant-Man has his uses, and does some heavy damage when boosted (He pairs well with Star-Lord: Cheaper costs to do the purple/blue nukes and/or a nice amount of Countdown Tiles for Star-Lord's Red power)

Zappa

Sitting on 15 4* champs
18 4*s at 13 covers (including nova, c4rol, dusa, bl4de)
I'm pretty much going to be hoarding for the next decade as I try and accrue 6.3+ million iso

TimGunn

Seriously y'all, stop putting ISO into the vaulted chars. They are not going anywhere. Save the ISO for latest 12 and watch your champ levels 'splode!

Also, make sure to play PVE as much as you can. Those intercepts are a great source of ISO.

[full disclosure, I do plan on champing one--but no more than one--from vaulted 4 stars each month. But got to keep a limit on it!]

Dormammu

TimGunn wrote:

Seriously y'all, stop putting ISO into the vaulted chars. They are not going anywhere. Save the ISO for latest 12 and watch your champ levels 'splode!

Also, make sure to play PVE as much as you can. Those intercepts are a great source of ISO.

[full disclosure, I do plan on champing one--but no more than one--from vaulted 4 stars each month. But got to keep a limit on it!]

Vaults don't worry me. It's not like all sources of the old covers have suddenly dried up. I'm hoarding due to a lack of ISO, so I'm not going to be opening any of the newer characters either. My goal remains the same as it always has - champ every flippin one of 'em.

DJSquiggy

Right now, i have 15 Max covered 4*. I have essentially stopped pulling covers with CP. I still do tokens because i have no willpower, but at least CP can be used to fill in that last cover if needed (i should say, i have never used CP to buy a 4* cover, but having a 120CP buffer makes it a lot easier to pull tokens)

13 champed are mostly old school vaulted characters.

2 are waiting on ISO Moon knight (Will def champ) and Mr. F (maybe someday)

Anyone on Discord probably knows i am getting my 13th Peggy cover with this PVE, so she is my #1 focus right now. Probably Wasp and Star Lord after that.

a lot of my 2*'s are getting ripe for the picking. but i have to be careful now with the Behemoth Burrito.

but yeah, definitely have a firm step into 4* territory, but iso is holding me back.

https://mpq.gamependium.com/rosters/Djsquiggy/

Orion

If anyone is wondering who to champ, the Character forum has a really good ranking thread:

https://d3go.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=56249

It doesn't have the newest guys on there, but it ranks everyone else.

drag0n41

Orion wrote:

drag0n41 wrote:

I have 5 as well with 3 having extra covers.

Spider-Woman (3 covers)
Blade (2 covers)
War Machine (1 cover)
Venom
Ghost Rider

I plan to champ Blade when I get the ISO, hope to get enough to champ Spider-Woman as well, but might need to sell a cover or 2 of hers.

How many 4* champs do you already have? After a certain point, playability takes a backseat to available covers. If you already have most of the top 4*s champed, then go ahead and champ Spider-Woman next.

I have 30 4* champed. Thinking Blade as he is the essential for the next PVE after simulator. I will try for both, but Blade's first cover expires first.

jgomes32

I have 16 champs:

13 covers:
12 covers: Peggy, Howard, WS, Miles, Nova, Ghost Rider and X-23.
9-11 covers: Everyone but Wasp.

I'll champ Blade next and probably hoard untill i can finish the remaining 6 3* (Haykeye, Thanos, Spider-Man, Hood, Ragnarok and Iron Man). Depending on upcoming pve rewards my 3* plan will be put on hold.

While i agree to some extent that there is "fun" in the choosing process, it is turning into frustration fast. They need to do something about iso. Make double iso standard, There's just no way to catch up.

Dragon_Nexus

Orion wrote:

Don't sleep on Nova - he's a powerhouse, especially when boosted. He's much better than the other 9 on that list.

Also, level 183 Doctor Strange gets you a yellow Nova cover, if that's one you need adding Strange to your faves would be a good way to go.

Dragon_Nexus

Summer Glau wrote:

I have no 4 Star Champs
All of my Max Covered 4's are either Vaulted or Limited (Devil Dino, Eddie Brock,Hulkbuster,Cyclops,Nova and ChoHulk)

X-23 Needs 1 cover (have her as my only favorited 4, 18 LT's in no bonuses) (5/4/3)
Kingpin needs 1 Cover but has two powers maxxed (2/5/5)
Red Hulk needs 1 cover (3/5/4)

Peggy will get her 12th Cover (3/3/5), SW already has 12 (3/5/4)

I still have 4 max covered 3's to Champion (once I feed Thanos 9200 more ISO), plus Hawkguy (2/3/3)

Sorry for the double post.

2* Daken leads to 3* Daken which leads to X-23. Cycling your 2* Daken will lead to some covers for her eventually. Plus cycling 2*s is good to do anyway.
That said, I'd really focus on champing Cyclops, if you can. He's very, very powerful in both PvE and PvP. A self sustaining nuke. Red Hulk and ChoHulk are an awesome pairing, too.

Fightmastermpq

TimGunn wrote:

Seriously y'all, stop putting ISO into the vaulted chars. They are not going anywhere. Save the ISO for latest 12 and watch your champ levels 'splode!

Also, make sure to play PVE as much as you can. Those intercepts are a great source of ISO.

[full disclosure, I do plan on champing one--but no more than one--from vaulted 4 stars each month. But got to keep a limit on it!]

I feel like this entire forum is in denial. The correct answer is none of them, as none of them are of the 12 newest.

Nepenthe

I just champed Bl4de as my 40th 4* champ. Next I've got six and a half days to raise the iso for Luke Cage. After that, I need to put a few 100k iso back into my 2* farm because of the 2*s I sold for iso to champ recent 4*s instead of putting it back in the dupes.

Maybe if I don't have another 4* dying on the vine by that point I'll be able to level some 5*s a little.

Pants1000

I have 22 champed and 9 more with 13 covers. Of those 9, 7 are old and 2 are in the latest 12, so those 2 are my priority. I probably won't champ any of those older 7 for a very long time.

For older characters I might make an exception for Rulk or Nova, both of which have 12 covers, so I couldn't champ them yet even if I wanted to.