Thanos as Essential

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  • CNash
    CNash Posts: 952 Critical Contributor
    You could try Fastball Special; throw him airborne before downing anyone. He doesn't have any direct damage powers so he shouldn't kill anyone else on his return.
  • amusingfoo1
    amusingfoo1 Posts: 597 Critical Contributor
    I agree; he's ****. Not only is his black doing more damage to me than it is to the enemy, but it's doing more damage than the enemy. Thano5 looks awesome, but 3anos is awful.
  • Mechahamster
    Mechahamster Posts: 237 Tile Toppler
    Note to devs. The puzzle part of this game mainly comes from juggling health packs. Therefore, characters that save health packs = yay, characters that cost you even more health packs = boo.
  • Nightglider1
    Nightglider1 Posts: 707 Critical Contributor
    halirin wrote:
    Almost as annoying as the gifs

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  • TeamStewie
    TeamStewie Posts: 357 Mover and Shaker
    Nightglider1 wrote:
    halirin wrote:
    Almost as annoying as the gifs

    You can turn off images in posts from the User Control Panel. It's a bit of an overcorrection, though, since it turns off static images as well. Wish we had an option to just shut off animated .gif images.


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  • zodiac339
    zodiac339 Posts: 1,948 Chairperson of the Boards
    Punisher5784 wrote:
    thanos8587 wrote:
    4 clears on that node is no beuno. you want to save it for last or use characters you really dont like icon_e_biggrin.gif

    Exactly.. this is a great time to use those awesome 3*s such as Colosuss, Spidey and Sentry!

    I decided not to add his black cover to avoid the nonsense damage.
    Oh, Colossus! Thank you! Hurl Thanos is the air, then punch someone to death.
  • Phumade
    Phumade Posts: 2,524 Chairperson of the Boards
    You guys are all misreading Thanos! He is the ideal partner for shield hopping against grill teams. All you need to do is kill the loaner and the passive helps speed up attacks on the rest. Its not sentry bombing fast, but he will be an ideal third for grill eating expeditions.
  • halirin
    halirin Posts: 327 Mover and Shaker
    Do shield tiles reduce the damage? Does quake?
  • carrion_pigeons
    carrion_pigeons Posts: 942 Critical Contributor
    On the plus side Thanos will be interesting to fight against, since if you start to lose then you still have some chance to use character deaths to blow up opponents, like suicide bombers.

    But yeah, my best tries have been using multiple AoEs at once. I went in with Ghost Rider/Iceman and managed to kill everything at the same time once or twice.
  • GuntherBlobel
    GuntherBlobel Posts: 987 Critical Contributor
    halirin wrote:
    Do shield tiles reduce the damage? Does quake?
    Quake doesn't reduce self damage. Characters that reduce damage to themselves like Colossus might. I know he takes less damage from icon_carnage.pngredflag.png, while his yellowflag.png is active.
  • STOPTHIS
    STOPTHIS Posts: 781 Critical Contributor
    A single node is bad enough. His PvP event is going to be unbearable.
  • DrStrange-616
    DrStrange-616 Posts: 993 Critical Contributor
    TeamStewie wrote:
    Nightglider1 wrote:
    halirin wrote:
    Almost as annoying as the gifs

    You can turn off images in posts from the User Control Panel. It's a bit of an overcorrection, though, since it turns off static images as well. Wish we had an option to just shut off animated .gif images.


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  • Nightglider1
    Nightglider1 Posts: 707 Critical Contributor
    TeamStewie wrote:
    Nightglider1 wrote:
    halirin wrote:
    Almost as annoying as the gifs

    You can turn off images in posts from the User Control Panel. It's a bit of an overcorrection, though, since it turns off static images as well. Wish we had an option to just shut off animated .gif images.


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  • veny
    veny Posts: 834 Critical Contributor
    Come on, he is awesome.
    Teaming him with OML and 5* Phoenix (activating her passive was always a huge problem for me icon_e_biggrin.gif ) is great. Sure, you must get them at high level but then you will be cutting trough PvE like nothing icon_e_smile.gif
  • revskip
    revskip Posts: 1,037 Chairperson of the Boards
    I just paired him with 4* Punisher and stunned him before using Punisher to clean up the rabble. Galactus helped big time since it got me the last cover I needed to champ him.
  • zodiac339
    zodiac339 Posts: 1,948 Chairperson of the Boards
    veny wrote:
    Come on, he is awesome.
    Teaming him with OML and 5* Phoenix (activating her passive was always a huge problem for me icon_e_biggrin.gif ) is great. Sure, you must get them at high level but then you will be cutting trough PvE like nothing icon_e_smile.gif
    Sounds iffy. Make sure that purple is never out, cause Phoenix and OML will be straight worthless for both teams then No From the Ashes, no strike tiles from anything, no changing tiles red. It could let you use Phoenix's Psychic Flames without it putting out the enemy tiles though.
  • Dragon_Nexus
    Dragon_Nexus Posts: 3,701 Chairperson of the Boards
    I wonder if his passive was a mistake. I mean, 5* Thanos' team damage is something like 1/4 of the enemy team damage. For a 3* to do near equal damage to the entire playing field seems wonky.

    Someone said before, I think, imagine taking him into a survival node. You'd never make it in some of them. You couldn't finish 4* DDQ with him.
  • ClydeFrog76
    ClydeFrog76 Posts: 1,350 Chairperson of the Boards
    Vhailorx wrote:
    Sidenote: 3* steangecs blue is awesomre too. Maybe as good as his passive.

    Agree on 3* thanos. He looks like ****.

    Decent stun, good damage and AP drain. I frickin' LOVE his blue.

    The Thanos essential is balls.
  • nyck1118
    nyck1118 Posts: 106 Tile Toppler
    What hell whiners. It goes off what. Twice? Once per kill. And it's not that big of a deal. He'll bring in a strike tile guy and it's awesome. Helps speed things along
  • Smudge
    Smudge Posts: 562 Critical Contributor
    nyck1118 wrote:
    What hell whiners. It goes off what. Twice? Once per kill. And it's not that big of a deal. He'll bring in a strike tile guy and it's awesome. Helps speed things along
    Difference of opinion on what most regard as a bad character != whining. Do you like Sentry? Great! Use him! Most people don't.

    Do you like Vision? Great! Use him! Many people prefer to bypass him because he has to tank to make his blue worthwhile, and he just isn't a priority compared to so many other options at the 3* tier.

    3* Thanos takes those two characters and makes everything worse. My level 40 Thanos would, at 4 covers, do 975 team damage passively to everyone except Thanos when I down an opposing character, meaning I have limited control over whether I take the damage. And that's unboosted.

    By comparison, at 5 red covers, Sentry does 141 * 9 red tiles = 1269 team damage per character. Granted, he hits himself, but that's also a level 178 Sentry. He's also dishing out 1608 base + 268 * 9 red tiles = 4020 damage to the entire enemy team (per character). Thanos, at 4 black, is doing only 948 to the enemy team.

    Even if you bump Thanos to 5 covers, he's at 1307 enemy, 1170 team. The divide between friendly/foe damage is not great, and you again only have limited control over it.

    To my Vision comment, I offered a more detailed analysis in the Character forum thread Vhailorx started, but suffice it to say that Thanos does everything Vision's blue does with his purple, but Thanos does a much worse job of it than Vision. He doesn't get the board control 5* Thanos gets, and his damage is way lower than the boost Vision gets.

    Even Thanos's green nuke relies on a CD tile, something 3* Thor and KK way outstrip him of, AND they both self-accelerate! Not to mention that at his boosted level of 138, he's only doing 1968, which Thor and KK both scoff at as well (it could be higher, but I doubt it's keeping up at that pace; I'm happy to be proven wrong though). Thanos's green offers to move him to the front of the team so he can get KOed faster, I guess. So... yay?

    3* Thanos is a bad character in the current meta. The 5* is the best of its tier, but the 3* I believe is the new bottom of the barrel. I'd rather use Carnage or Sentry any day...

    Do you like 3* Thanos? Great! Use him! Most people don't agree (but we have to use him anyway because Unstable ISO-8 says so)!

    Edit: Just checked him boosted. He's boosted to 138 from 40. His black, at 5 covers, does 3722 damage to enemies and 3333 to allies. This sounds marginally better on the surface. However, it's not! Consider this:

    For the passive to trigger, you have to down an enemy. This means that, at best, 3* Thanos is doing 3722 * 2 still active enemies = 7444 total damage to the enemy team, and 6666 to your team (ironic at this level?). Passively.

    Again as a comparison, at level 178, Sentry is doing 4020 * potentially 3 enemies = 12,060 damage to the enemy team and 1269 * potentially 3 allies to your team = 3807.

    If that doesn't convince you that 3* Thanos is a generally bad play unless you're using self-healers (lol, who heals that fast besides OML) or characters you don't give a hoot about, I don't know what will.

    Edit again: After digging in the Character forum a little more, I found that Thanos does 4277 team damage with his green at level 166, 5 covers. He actually does outdo Kamala at this level; she's "only" dealing 3390, but she still does have the self-acceleration and non-reliance of a CD tile to deal hers. Likewise with Thor; he is 4518 single target, 2259 to remaining enemies at the same level for 2 more AP, but he also carries the self-acceleration/no CD reliance. I guess you could bring Flaptain to boost the CD and Thor or KK or IM40 to boost green AP... but... why?

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