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Hey guys!

I read through the thread about Thick as Thieves, and here's what I gathered.

All nodes have 5 stacks that seem to refresh after 2h24min per stack. The first time you beat a mission you get 100% of the points, then 80/60/40/20%. If you beat one mission 5 times in a row, you'll have to wait 12h (that's 5 times 2:24) for it to be back at 100%.

It seems like beating each mission one time gives about 1,000 points, so beating the 5 stacks of each missions should give 3,000 points (1,000+800+600+400+200=3,000). That's why, shortly after the first sub-event opened, the leaders had about 3,000. The top guy in my sub now has 4,800, so he probably played every node 5 times at noon, waited 9-10 hours, and did everything 4 times again (starting at 80%). Big life!

People say rubber banding seems to be minimal for this event, and only limited to the missions with the essential character (Hulk).

This is just a summary of what I read. People are often wrong!

Good luck! Let's get our alliance rank up!

So since there are 16 hours left, if one killed all nodes 5 times now and again in 12 hours, that would be at least 6,000 points. If you did one mission per node every 2.5 hour, that'd be about 5,000, plus more rubber banding bonus. So it seems better to beat a node 5 times in a row and come back to it in 12 hours.

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Felix88 wrote:

Justdangit wrote:

Felix88 wrote:

Do you only make one push for the whole tourney? Should I do a mid-range push today, leave it unshielded, then try to do a big push tomorrow and shield?

What's the last team I should use after a push?

Yes most people do a mid range push to like 500-600 points, leave it unshielded then do a big push in the end and shield.

So would it be a good idea for today to keep one weak team in one node while I do a push to 600 with Punisher and OBW, then fight the weak team with a weak tank team (e.g., 1* Storm/Widow/IM/Hawk and 1-cover BP). Would that make the big push tomorrow easier? Right now, because of yesterday's tank, I make 20-30 points for beating teams that don't have a single lvl-85 character.

Anyway, I'll try it and see how it works.

Felix: I used to join slightly later when the PVP started but nowadays, I realized if you are aiming for progression rewards at 1100, you might need to join early, let others push up the scores and then you chase them at the last 4 hours. After I join a bracket, within 24 hrs, I will push to 300 to get my token before putting the tank team. With 4-5 hrs left before PVP ends, I push as high as I could. If the top 10 are high score, you might hit 900 for the Hero Point. I will shield when I start to get attack frequently. After shield, let all the retaliation clear first before you shield and continue pushing pass 1000.

Sometimes with 24 hrs left I will start to push as high as I can then leave it till last 3 to 4 hrs and adopt the stratedgy above.

Usually to get to 1100 or above, I need to do shield hopping. Not sure if Dang has a better way, he seems to be able to hit more than 1100 very often

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Welcome to our new member: BONER JAMZ!

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Thanks ackerlight....Daily player that plays way too much at times, but will put the tablet down to decompress, usually when I can't heal anymore .... So thanks again and I hope to contribute to our Team!

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Event 100/ 80%/ 60%/ 40%/ 20%/ Total
ABT-I 50/ 40/ 30/ 20/ 10/ 150
ABT-II 65/ 52/ 39/ 26/ 13/ 195
ABT-III 80/ 64/ 48/ 32/ 16/ 240
ABT-IV 125/ 100/ 75/ 50/ 25/ 375
ABT-V 200/ 160/ 120/ 80/ 40/ 600
ABT-VI 185/ 148/ 111/ 74/ 37/ 555
ABT-VII 215/ 172/ 129/ 86/ 43/ 645
Total 920/ 736/ 552/ 368/ 184/ 2760

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My last post is the points for each mission. When you play a node once, you get the first score. If you play every node once at 100%, you'll get 920 total. If you play mission ABV-I 5 times in a row, you'll get 150 points total. If you clear all nodes 5 times in once sitting, you'll end up with 2760 points.

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Now, when you play, say, ABV-5, the first time, you get 200 points. Then it'll say you can play it again for 80% of that, or 160 points. If you don't play it, it'll gradually go back up to 100% or 200 points over the next 2 hours and 24 minutes (that's 2.4 hours). If you play the node 5 times in a row, it'll be down to 1 point, and it'll take 12 hours (that's 5 times 2.4 hours) to gradually go back to 100%.

The sub event lasts 26 hours, so there is a little more than 11 times 2.4 hours. If you cleared every node once (that's a total of 920 points) every 2.4 hours 10 times, and then in you last session cleared every node 5 times for 2760 points, that amounts for 11,960 points. If you played every node 5 times for 2760 points, and repeated in 12 hours, and then one last time after another 12 hours, you'll end up with 8280 points. Therefore, it's optimal to play every node once (that takes only 15 minutes; 7 matches) every 2.4 hours.

Now, you'll probably want to sleep or do other things. So, if you know you won't be able to come back in 2.4 hours, figure out in how many slots of 2.4 hours you'll come back, and clear the node that many times. If you can play 30 minutes now and know you can't come back until 5 hours later, play every node twice for 100%+80%; then in 4.8 hours, they'll be back to 100%. If you know you'll be able to play when the nodes will be back to 100%, it's always better to wait. Believe me, I did the quick math! Do not get intimidated by people who already have 5,000 points in the sub; they're shooting themselves in the foot! If you take your little 920 points every 2.4 hours, you'll finish at almost 12,000!

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Thanks for sharing the information Felix!

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Oh no! 9 missions on the new sub PvE event. This thing is work!

Mission 100.00%
SC-1 50
SC 2 65
SC 3 80
SC 4 125
SC 5 155
SC 6 185
SC 7 185
SC 8 215
SC 9 245
Total 1305

To show how to rack the most points, the first column below is the highest possible score (by playing every node once every 2:24 for a total of 1,305 points, then finishing by playing 5 times each node before the event ends.) The second row is how I might actually do it: play every 2:24 today because I think I can, then play 4x each node before going to bed (that makes a total of 2626), play them twice tomorrow morning before I go see friends, then maybe rack up as much as I can in the last hour (maybe). That would still give me about 12K, probably not a first place finish this time! (That's about how I played it for this last sub and I finished first, but I feel like more people are getting it - and I might not play as much as I plan now.)

Time (EST) Optimal Planned
04:00:00 PM 1305 1305
06:24:00 PM 1305 1305
08:48:00 PM 1305 1305
11:12:00 PM 1305 2826
01:36:00 AM 1305
04:00:00 AM 1305
06:24:00 AM 1305
08:48:00 AM 1305 1305
11:12:00 AM 1305 1981
01:36:00 PM 1305
04:00:00 PM 2995 1981
06:00:00 PM 16045 12008

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Not sure if this is still 1.4 hr refresh.

Just completed 1 round of abt.
Abt1 78
Abt2 98
Abt3 120
Abt4 188
Abt5 300
Abt6 278
Abt7 323  
Total 1382 points in 1 cycle.

Points might changed. Feel free to update

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Felix88 wrote:

Oh no! 9 missions on the new sub PvE event. This thing is work!

Mission 100.00%
SC-1 50
SC 2 65
SC 3 80
SC 4 125
SC 5 155
SC 6 185
SC 7 185
SC 8 215
SC 9 245
Total 1305

To show how to rack the most points, the first column below is the highest possible score (by playing every node once every 2:24 for a total of 1,305 points, then finishing by playing 5 times each node before the event ends.) The second row is how I might actually do it: play every 2:24 today because I think I can, then play 4x each node before going to bed (that makes a total of 2626), play them twice tomorrow morning before I go see friends, then maybe rack up as much as I can in the last hour (maybe). That would still give me about 12K, probably not a first place finish this time! (That's about how I played it for this last sub and I finished first, but I feel like more people are getting it - and I might not play as much as I plan now.)

Time (EST) Optimal Planned
04:00:00 PM 1305 1305
06:24:00 PM 1305 1305
08:48:00 PM 1305 1305
11:12:00 PM 1305 2826
01:36:00 AM 1305
04:00:00 AM 1305
06:24:00 AM 1305
08:48:00 AM 1305 1305
11:12:00 AM 1305 1981
01:36:00 PM 1305
04:00:00 PM 2995 1981
06:00:00 PM 16045 12008

Hi Felix

Thank you for all your help playing this pve! I have been keeping up in the main (I am currently 1400 behind you) and I expect to grind harder when the end is near!

Thanks again

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ackerlight wrote:

Hi Felix

Thank you for all your help playing this pve! I have been keeping up in the main (I am currently 1400 behind you) and I expect to grind harder when the end is near!

Thanks again

Note that things are completely different with the main event and new subs, since the rubberband bonus now applies.

The rubber band bonus gives you up to a 10x multiplier on the base value of missions. "You again" and "Coffee Break" give 200 base points, while the 7 other big missions have 100 base points. When you beat them once, they drop to 80% of that value (to 160/80), then to 60%, and so on as before. They will refresh 20% gradually in 2h 24 minutes.

However, you can get up to 10 times that value depending on your distance with the board leader. If you are the highest score in the main event, you can only score the base value of 200/100. If your score is 80% of the one of the leader or below, you'll get the 10x multiplier, and you'll be able to score 2000/1000 per mission. The multiplier will be somewhere in between 10 and 0 if you're in between 20 to 0% below the board leader.
For example, my leader now has 84000 and I have about 67000. I'm about 18% below the board leader, which (on a scale of 20 to 0, makes 9/10). So my multiplier is 9x. And indeed, "You Again" is now worth about 1800 points! If I beat it, I'll be closer to the board leader and the multiplier will drop to 7.6 or so, and "Coffee Break" will reap about 1574.

The point I wanted to make in the chat room yesterday is that if you are way below that 20% distance from the board leader, you don't benefit more from the RB bonus. The missions will always be 2000/1000. So if the leader has now 84K and you currently have 50K or below, you can farm all the big missions for a whole 2000/1000 (that's 11K total) and you'll still be below the 80% mark and have full rubber band bonus. This means that there is absolutely no need for you to wait any longer; you won't get more RB bonus. People who wait until the last minute to play will be able to get about 30K in the full run, but if you're way below the board leader, you won't be able to catch up.

It's hard to figure the optimal strategy, but I figure that not letting yourself get below 20K points from the board leader might be a good strategy. In the final hours, the leader won't possibly be able to farm more than 3000 points. If you're within 20K or 15K below, you might be able to reap 20K+ in your final run (but that's hard to calculate, because as you catch up, your bonus drops...)

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A Big thx to Felix, who worked out this hints

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Felix is our PVE master now

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Felix88 wrote:

If you're within 20K or 15K below, you might be able to reap 20K+ in your final run

Well, I said that before that brutal upgrade! I can barely beat anything now. I'm afraid I might not get my Storm
Maybe that was a way to reward those who racked up points early.

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Below are starting points for new Scotland Yard
before upgrade...
SY1 75 lvl 27
SY2 98 lvl 35
SY3 120 lvl 108
SY4 188 lvl 50
SY5 233 lvl 152
SY6 278 lvl 173
SY7 278 lvl 192
SY8 323 lvl 125
SY9 368 lvl 138

total points per cycle is 1961.

Anybody else see this level and points?

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ackerlight wrote:

Hi Jeff

Welcome to the team!

Actually we have another player from Toronto in the alliance. I leave it up to him to disclose himself!

Just saw this and I haven't seen anyone pipe up. For them, I'll clarify - I live outside the city on the west end (Mississauga), but I commute into Toronto daily as I work on Bay st.

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Ruval wrote:

ackerlight wrote:

Hi Jeff

Welcome to the team!

Actually we have another player from Toronto in the alliance. I leave it up to him to disclose himself!

Just saw this and I haven't seen anyone pipe up. For them, I'll clarify - I live outside the city on the west end (Mississauga), but I commute into Toronto daily as I work on Bay st.

I think Chad (board name: Cmerriam) missed the post

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Just logged on to do the She Hulk pvp, been another busy weekend working outside all day directly into plans at night. Still, with three hours left should have been able to do decently.

After daily reward, it told me to get an alliance. Looks like I've been removed. Bye all!

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Well, I'm a bit confused now. I sent a note to Ackerlight and got the following two reasons in response.

1) My complaint when True Healing launched. Confusing since I PM'd him on July 2 noting I still dont like the change but I've adapted to it.
2) The fact Isolated has missed the last two PvE's in being top 100. Two events back was the She Hulk event - an event I placed well enough in that I got all three covers, despite the alliance missed it's covers. I can hardly be blamed there. The last PvE was over a major Candaian holiday weekend. I played four refreshes the last day, but they killed all rubberbanding the last day. I ended up #13 in the alliance rankings, one behind Ackerlight who placed #12. One placement behind the leader is kick worthy? What about the guys all behind me?

A bizarre situation, considering how 'up front' Ackerlight said he'd be when we were speaking in PM's. Oh well, seems like the decision is made, it just doesn't make a lick of sense to me.