ZW2007- wrote: It was nice while it lasted. A Kiora deck jammed full of mythics is just so oppressive. I don't mind the crush of tentacles, the seasons past, the ulvenwald hydras but exert influence... that has got to be the most broken card in the game. I'll walk you through it. You watch the AI cascade into a match five, then another match five, then another match that gives eight or so random mana and the hand gets dumped: hydra, sage, SP, draw all the cards, gain all the mana, match a million gems. Then it's your turn, you manage to scrape back a defense and build a creature that is somehow better. AI says, oh hey, good job shutting me down and making a better creature, I'll take that for 10 mana. Wash, rinse, repeat till you are dead. To be clear, my issue is not with Kiora at all but all the green mana excel combined with the annoying blue control is just awful. End rant.
venomAA wrote: You should better start crying wolf for sorin then. Cause you are probably one of those guys that thinks that game should be on easy mode all the time. I won versus kioras with my basic Lillian's, Gideon and nissa on daily basis. How? Learning that they can't do jack if you attack their mana. Kiora suffers on anything that's not green and blue, a damn lot. Even with ramp.they would slow down, add to it the AI doesn't know how play. And yet this simple fact escaped all whiners minds. Well, now pros will go sorin and you noons will still be loosing
blacklotus wrote: venomAA wrote: You should better start crying wolf for sorin then. Cause you are probably one of those guys that thinks that game should be on easy mode all the time. I won versus kioras with my basic Lillian's, Gideon and nissa on daily basis. How? Learning that they can't do jack if you attack their mana. Kiora suffers on anything that's not green and blue, a damn lot. Even with ramp.they would slow down, add to it the AI doesn't know how play. And yet this simple fact escaped all whiners minds. Well, now pros will go sorin and you noons will still be loosing or the new Jace v2. he's even better than Kiora now. his 1st n 2nd abilities synergies very well to get him tons of mana for fatties by playing lots of supports n draw cards. n his 3rd will boost those fatties even more. at l60, he is +5/+4 for blue n black
blacklotus wrote: not sure how to attach the screen shot I got from my phone. but Jace v2 stats are as follows: +5/+4 for blue n black. the rest +0. 7/5/5 at lvl60 9: gain 4 mana per support you control on the board 12: discard 1 card, then investigate 4 21: create a support with "When you draw a card, each of your creatures get +4/4" support shield is 6 for his 3rd.
blacklotus wrote: my thoughts on Jace v2 is the bar for OPness has just been raised. If one thinks Kiora was OP, Jace v2 is way more OP than her. lol
jimilinho_ wrote: Everyone knows Kiora is completely OP, one monster cascade and your getting drained for 6 everyturn. It's depressingly oppressive at times I'm finding not having to play against her constantly a breath of fresh air. Don't know what everyone else's views are on this? Surely now tho everyone's had their fun with her and maybe we can tone her down a bit. Try and create somekind of balance with every other Planeswalker in the game.