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  • madsalad
    madsalad Posts: 815 Critical Contributor
    I expect 30K iso at level 66.
  • amusingfoo1
    amusingfoo1 Posts: 597 Critical Contributor
    "David wrote:
    Moore"]Hi,

    Hopefully I can provide a little clarity (and we'll be posting more details on Monday).

    S.H.I.E.L.D. Rank provides Iso rewards. There isn't a daily rewards or Championing type of system tied to them where you receive different rewards for reaching a new rank. You will receive Iso upon ranking up - and you will receive a nice drop of Iso on Monday covering all your current ranks earned.

    The better rewards side of the feature arrives with S.H.I.E.L.D. Clearance Levels in R109.

    Hope that helps. Again, more info on S.H.I.E.L.D. Ranks coming on Monday. Additional info on Clearance Levels arriving closer to R109.

    Question: for the sake of argument, let's say that my roster is good enough for level 55, with 1k xp left over. Would I end up with exactly that, or just level 55 and no xp?
  • JeffCascadian
    JeffCascadian Posts: 665 Critical Contributor
    My presumption is that we'll be assigned the appropriate level of XP and that will grant the appropriate S.H.I.E.L.D. rank. Additional XP will still be there, going towards your next promotion.
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    768K iso. why? because that is exactly what I need to finish my current project of my 2s and 3s. all about me baby!!
  • amusingfoo1
    amusingfoo1 Posts: 597 Critical Contributor
    Question: for the sake of argument, let's say that my roster is good enough for level 55, with 1k xp left over. Would I end up with exactly that, or just level 55 and no xp?

    My guess is everyone will have a rank, and 0 XP.

    If not, then anyone exceeding rank 65 would have to be "shorted" the excess XP. That'd be rough. Or instantly gain ranks when they log in after it goes live, which would defeat the cap on the grandfathering.

    I love being wrong. Look forward to it.....

    Hmm. You're right about the maxed ones. Could give them 65+ "enough xp to get to 66 less one" and give everyone else what they deserve to work around that. Was hoping for a red answer.
  • AlphaNik
    AlphaNik Posts: 45 Just Dropped In
    I've got most 3* max covered, 18 championed. No 4* maxed yet
    Just entered the game after the patch, I'm 47. I got 422K Iso icon_e_smile.gif
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    So we have a thread for speculation over Shield Rank details ...

    And a thread for guessing initial Shield Ranks ...

    But everyone wants to get paid, so how about a thread for guessing the initial loot?

    BTW, it's awfully nice of the devs to grandfather players in WITH the loot. I could see them saying everyone would be assigned a rank for the purposes of allowing them to be competitive with their "peers" and that everyone would earn awesome loot going forward and leaving it at that, right?

    Based on the revealed details that
    1) the rank 65 reward is 30K iso, and
    2) a player has to be level 5 to have access to the full game (graduated from Prologue?) ...

    I am guessing that the total iso through level 65 is somewhere between 200K iso and 450K iso.
    Up to 900K iso if every level awards iso, but that would be nutty, right?
    Iso rewards every how many levels?
    . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5

    Lvl . . Iso . . . . . Run. Tot.
    1 ?
    2 ?
    3 ?
    4 ?
    5 . . . 0 . . . . . . .0 . . . . . . .0 . . . . . . .0 . . . . . . .0 . . . . . . .0 . . . . . . .0 . . . . . . . 0 . . . . . . .0 . . . . . . .0
    6 . . . 500 . . . . .500
    7 . . . 1000 . . . .1500 . . . . 1000 . . . . 1000
    8 . . . 1500 . . . .3000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1500 . . . . 1500
    9 . . . 2000 . . . .5000 . . . . 2000 . . . . 3000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2000 . . . . 2000
    10 . . 2500 . . . .7500 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2500 . . . . 2500
    11 . . 3000 . . . .10500. . . . 3000 . . . . 6000 . . . .3000 . . . .4500
    12 . . 3500 . . . .14000
    13 . . 4000 . . . .18000. . . . 4000 . . . . 10000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4000 . . . . 6000
    14 . . 4500 . . . .22500 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .4500 . . . .9000
    15 . . 5000 . . . .27500. . . . 5000 . . . . 15000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5000 . . . . 7500
    16 . . 5500 . . . .33000
    17 . . 6000 . . . .39000. . . . 6000 . . . . 21000 . . . 6000 . . . .15000 . . . .6000 . . . .12000
    18 . . 6500 . . . .45500
    19 . . 7000 . . . .52500. . . . 7000 . . . . 28000
    20 . . 7500 . . . .60000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .7500 . . . .22500 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7500 . . . .15000
    21 . . 8000 . . . .68000. . . . 8000 . . . . 36000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .8000 . . . .20000
    22 . . 8500 . . . .76500
    23 . . 9000 . . . .85500. . . . 9000 . . . . 45000 . . . 9000 . . . .31500
    24 . . 9500 . . . .95000
    25 . . 10000 . . .105000 . . .10000 . . . .55000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10000 . . .30000 . . . 10000 . . . 25000
    26 . . 10500 . . .115500 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10500 . . .42000
    27 . . 11000 . . .126500 . . .11000 . . . .66000
    28 . . 11500 . . .138000
    29 . . 12000 . . .150000 . . .12000 . . . .78000 . . . 12000 . . .54000 . . . .12000 . . . 42000
    30 . . 12500 . . .162500 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .12500 . . . 37500
    31 . . 13000 . . .175500 . . .13000 . . . .91000
    32 . . 13500 . . .189000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13500 . . .67500
    33 . . 14000 . . .203000 . . .14000 . . . .105000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14000 . . . 56000
    34 . . 14500 . . .217500
    35 . . 15000 . . .232500 . . .15000 . . . .120000 . . 15000 . . .82500 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .15000 . . .52500
    36 . . 15500 . . .248000
    37 . . 16000 . . .264000 . . .16000 . . . .136000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16000 . . .72000
    38 . . 16500 . . .280500 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16500 . . .99000
    39 . . 17000 . . .297500 . . .17000 . . . .153000
    40 . . 17500 . . .315000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 17500 . . .70000
    41 . . 18000 . . .333000 . . .18000 . . . .171000 . . .18000 . . .117000 . . .18000 . . .90000
    42 . . 18500 . . .351500
    43 . . 19000 . . .370500 . . .19000 . . . .190000
    44 . . 19500 . . .390000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .19500 . . .136500
    45 . . 20000 . . .410000 . . .20000 . . . .210000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20000 . . .110000 . . 20000 . . .90000
    46 . . 20500 . . .430500
    47 . . 21000 . . .451500 . . .21000 . . . .231000 . . .21000 . . .157500
    48 . . 21500 . . .473000
    49 . . 22000 . . .495000 . . .22000 . . . .253000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 22000 . . .132000
    50 . . 22500 . . .517500 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .22500 . . .180000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .22500 . . .112500
    51 . . 23000 . . .540500 . . .23000 . . . .276000
    52 . . 23500 . . .564000
    53 . . 24000 . . .588000 . . .24000 . . . .300000 . . .24000 . . .204000 . . . 24000 . . .156000
    54 . . 24500 . . .612500
    55 . . 25000 . . .637500 . . .25000 . . . .325000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .25000 . . .137500
    56 . . 25500 . . .663000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .25500 . . .229500
    57 . . 26000 . . .689000 . . .26000 . . . .351000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 26000 . . .182000
    58 . . 26500 . . .715500
    59 . . 27000 . . .742500 . . .27000 . . . .378000 . . .27000 . . .256500
    60 . . 27500 . . .770000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .27500 . . .165000
    61 . . 28000 . . .798000 . . .28000 . . . .406000 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28000 . . .210000
    62 . . 28500 . . .826500 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28500 . . .285000
    63 . . 29000 . . .855500 . . .29000 . . . .435000
    64 . . 29500 . . .885000
    65 . . 30000 . . .915000 . . .30000 . . . .465000 . . .30000 . . .315000 . . . .30000 . . .240000 . . 30000 . . .195000

    This is assuming that the rewards have a regular pattern like the champ rewards do, and that they scale up linearly. Which are both guesses, but rooted in precedent and reason.

    If the iso amounts aren't linear, but increase geometrically, that would imply some truly massive iso bombs in the future.

    And sure, it could be zero iso through level 64, then BOOM, 30K iso at level 65, bu that would be silly, no?

    ____________________

    So all I care about is iso and that's my wild guess.

    What else might be in there? HP/ CP? Tokens? Token packs? Fixed covers? All the usual suspects? What say ye?

    This seems to be close, but not 100% accurate.

    I got level 41 and my grandfathered loot was 309,500. Based on the chart you listed it would have been 333,000.

    I'm close to reaching 42 and the reward for level 42 is 17,500, which is 1000 below the estimates.
  • DEWDuck
    DEWDuck Posts: 84 Match Maker
    I really do hope that I get the same amount of iso as my iOS teammates when it goes live for Android!!!
  • Druss
    Druss Posts: 368 Mover and Shaker
    my rank came up as Lv 65 & I received 887,000 iso !
  • DEWDuck
    DEWDuck Posts: 84 Match Maker
    Druss wrote:
    my rank came up as Lv 65 & I received 887,000 iso !

    And I am sure D3 will do a good job of making those numbers disappear once the Android patch comes out!
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    broll wrote:

    This seems to be close, but not 100% accurate.

    I got level 41 and my grandfathered loot was 309,500. Based on the chart you listed it would have been 333,000.

    I'm close to reaching 42 and the reward for level 42 is 17,500, which is 1000 below the estimates.

    It was a guess (no datamining here, honest), and assumed that the progression would be strictly linear, thinking that any sort of curve would result in ridiculously huge iso bombs at some point.

    According to the shield rank help file, the iso bombs are capped at 50K. There is a *slight* curve to the progression, but since it will flatline at 50K, the unthinkable implication of 6 figure iso rewards has been averted icon_lol.gif

    Yeah I didn't think you datamined, just giving you kudos for so close.

    FYI I got 42 and 43 also shows 17,500. So it looks like it's teired, probably increases slightly ever 5-10 levels.
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2016
    So I have a new guess on how this all works. My guess is you get 2500 ISO per level 1-15. From then on every 5 levels you get an additional 2500 ISO for the next 5 level, rinse and repeat. This estimate is off by 2000 so there may be some extra 2000 bonus, or more likely the early 1-15 is different than this/ We're not likely to those reported on the forums unless someone makes an alt to do it.

    Based on that if 50000 is the most per level and they keep the same pattern the current cap would be 105-109.

    *fixed a copy paste bug with the actual column and put commas in.
    | Estimate | Cumulative | Actual Reported
    1 | 2,500 | 2,500 |
    2 | 2,500 | 5,000 |
    3 | 2,500 | 7,500 |
    4 | 2,500 | 10,000 |
    5 | 2,500 | 12,500 |
    6 | 2,500 | 15,000 |
    7 | 2,500 | 17,500 |
    8 | 2,500 | 20,000 |
    9 | 2,500 | 22,500 |
    10 | 2,500 | 25,000 |
    11 | 2,500 | 27,500 |
    12 | 2,500 | 30,000 |
    13 | 2,500 | 32,500 |
    14 | 2,500 | 35,000 |
    15 | 2,500 | 37,500 |
    16 | 5,000 | 42,500 |
    17 | 5,000 | 47,500 |
    18 | 5,000 | 52,500 |
    19 | 5,000 | 57,500 |
    20 | 5,000 | 62,500 |
    21 | 7,500 | 70,000 |
    22 | 7,500 | 77,500 |
    23 | 7,500 | 85,000 |
    24 | 7,500 | 92,500 |
    25 | 7,500 | 100,000 |
    26 | 10,000 | 110,000 |
    27 | 10,000 | 120,000 |
    28 | 10,000 | 130,000 |
    29 | 10,000 | 140,000 |
    30 | 10,000 | 150,000 |
    31 | 12,500 | 162,500 |
    32 | 12,500 | 175,000 |
    33 | 12,500 | 187,500 |
    34 | 12,500 | 200,000 |
    35 | 12,500 | 212,500 |
    36 | 15,000 | 227,500 |
    37 | 15,000 | 242,500 |
    38 | 15,000 | 257,500 |
    39 | 15,000 | 272,500 |
    40 | 17,500 | 290,000 |
    41 | 17,500 | 307,500 | 309,500
    42 | 17,500 | 325,000 |
    43 | 17,500 | 342,500 |
    44 | 17,500 | 360,000 |
    45 | 20,000 | 380,000 |
    46 | 20,000 | 400,000 |
    47 | 20,000 | 420,000 |
    48 | 20,000 | 440,000 |
    49 | 20,000 | 460,000 |
    50 | 22,500 | 482,500 |
    51 | 22,500 | 505,000 |
    52 | 22,500 | 527,500 |
    53 | 22,500 | 550,000 |
    54 | 22,500 | 572,500 | 574,000
    55 | 25,000 | 597,500 |
    56 | 25,000 | 622,500 |
    57 | 25,000 | 647,500 |
    58 | 25,000 | 672,500 |
    59 | 25,000 | 697,500 |
    60 | 27,500 | 725,000 |
    61 | 27,500 | 752,500 |
    62 | 27,500 | 780,000 |
    63 | 27,500 | 807,500 |
    64 | 27,500 | 835,000 |
    65 | 30,000 | 865,000 | 867,000

    To cap estimate:
    66 | 30,000 | 895,000 |
    67 | 30,000 | 925,000 |
    68 | 30,000 | 955,000 |
    69 | 30,000 | 985,000 |
    70 | 32,500 | 1,017,500 |
    71 | 32,500 | 1,050,000 |
    72 | 32,500 | 1,082,500 |
    73 | 32,500 | 1,115,000 |
    74 | 32,500 | 1,147,500 |
    75 | 35,000 | 1,182,500 |
    76 | 35,000 | 1,217,500 |
    77 | 35,000 | 1,252,500 |
    78 | 35,000 | 1,287,500 |
    79 | 35,000 | 1,322,500 |
    80 | 37,500 | 1,360,000 |
    81 | 37,500 | 1,397,500 |
    82 | 37,500 | 1,435,000 |
    83 | 37,500 | 1,472,500 |
    84 | 37,500 | 1,510,000 |
    85 | 40,000 | 1,550,000 |
    86 | 40,000 | 1,590,000 |
    87 | 40,000 | 1,630,000 |
    88 | 40,000 | 1,670,000 |
    89 | 40,000 | 1,710,000 |
    90 | 42,500 | 1,752,500 |
    91 | 42,500 | 1,795,000 |
    92 | 42,500 | 1,837,500 |
    93 | 42,500 | 1,880,000 |
    94 | 42,500 | 1,922,500 |
    95 | 45,000 | 1,967,500 |
    96 | 45,000 | 2,012,500 |
    97 | 45,000 | 2,057,500 |
    98 | 45,000 | 2,102,500 |
    99 | 45,000 | 2,147,500 |
    100 | 47,500 | 2,195,000 |
    101 | 47,500 | 2,242,500 |
    102 | 47,500 | 2,290,000 |
    103 | 47,500 | 2,337,500 |
    104 | 47,500 | 2,385,000 |
    105 | 50,000 | 2,435,000 |
  • broll
    broll Posts: 4,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    broll wrote:
    <stuff>

    The cumulative was 867K at lvl 65.

    When Android updates, my noob will be a low level. Will post that number at that time...

    Yeah I fixed that. At some point I anciently overwrote my actual column with sums. I thought it was off by 2000 somewhere icon_lol.gif Fixed my earlier post.
  • SnowcaTT
    SnowcaTT Posts: 3,486 Chairperson of the Boards
    ISO is needed, ISO is great! I'm still several million in the hole, however.

    Also - no covers in this list yet, huh? I still see no method to 5* transition. Hopefully that's phase 3.
  • JeffCascadian
    JeffCascadian Posts: 665 Critical Contributor
    My presumption is that we'll be assigned the appropriate level of XP and that will grant the appropriate S.H.I.E.L.D. rank. Additional XP will still be there, going towards your next promotion.

    It looks like I was right, at least for people who weren't max-level at 65. icon_e_smile.gif
  • TxMoose wrote:
    768K iso. why? because that is exactly what I need to finish my current project of my 2s and 3s. all about me baby!!
    The cumulative was 867K at lvl 65.

    Aww so close TxMoose, the correct numbers but the wrong order. Maybe it's indeed all about you icon_e_smile.gif
  • TxMoose
    TxMoose Posts: 4,319 Chairperson of the Boards
    TxMoose wrote:
    768K iso. why? because that is exactly what I need to finish my current project of my 2s and 3s. all about me baby!!
    The cumulative was 867K at lvl 65.

    Aww so close TxMoose, the correct numbers but the wrong order. Maybe it's indeed all about you icon_e_smile.gif
    did I mention I'm dyslexic? was a pleasant surprise, both the total and that I made the level 65 cap. and was just shear luck me being ready with all the hoarded tokens. I must be livin right icon_e_biggrin.gif