Should I advance to Gold tier?

Ekkias
Ekkias Posts: 42 Just Dropped In
edited September 2016 in MtGPQ General Discussion
Could anyone who was in the Gold tier during the weekend NoP event share their critique of how brutal their opponents' decks were?

Is everyone in gold running full mythic/rare decks with Tier 2 Planeswalkers?

Thanks.
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  • Plastic
    Plastic Posts: 762 Critical Contributor
    I'm staying in silver tier for 2 reasons.

    1) I still need/want BFZ cards (1st-5th place prize option). Also, the same prize in gold tier being OGW sucks, imo, because of how small the card set is.

    2) Don't want to deal with ultra competitive decks.
  • Abenjes
    Abenjes Posts: 253 Mover and Shaker
    I too am wondering this.
    It would be easy from where I am to grind the required mastery points to get into the gold tier, but do I really want to?
    I think yes!
    for 25 wins in silver you get 70 crystal vs 100 in gold.(I'm greedy)
    in silver you get a origins booster(this has no value to me except more Dupes) in gold you get a BFZ pack and an OTG pack(which I plan to save until all the cards are released).
    I am also hoping that there are less people in the bracket so the chances of finishing in the top 25 are higher.
    last the experience of playing the decks and getting ideas from those players really appeals to me. I may not have the best cards or decks but I want too learn.
    my understanding is the gold tier is pretty extreme and that getting those 25 wins may be difficult.
    I may yet live to regret my decision but at least the chances are once the new set hits I'll be dropped back to silver.
  • nerdstrap
    nerdstrap Posts: 180 Tile Toppler
    I faced some pretty insane planeswalkers/decks in silver, but I consider my decks to be mythic/rare heavy as well and I didn't have a problem winning 25 times in 2+ days. The AI just isn't as good as a human. I still lost a few times to amazing draws, but that happens at every level.
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,093 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ekkias wrote:
    Could anyone who was in the Gold tier during the weekend NoP event share their critique of how brutal their opponents' decks were?

    Is everyone in gold running full mythic/rare decks with Tier 2 Planeswalkers?

    Thanks.

    Yep, there were a lot of mythics

    It was alright. I was honestly more afraid of the bug that freezes the game when you are against a red pw

    I was afraid of a first striking UC too
  • Morphis
    Morphis Posts: 975 Critical Contributor
    khurram wrote:
    Ekkias wrote:
    Could anyone who was in the Gold tier during the weekend NoP event share their critique of how brutal their opponents' decks were?

    Is everyone in gold running full mythic/rare decks with Tier 2 Planeswalkers?

    Thanks.

    Yep, there were a lot of mythics

    It was alright. I was honestly more afraid of the bug that freezes the game when you are against a red pw
    This week will be my first as gold(bronze for first two).

    What is the amount of losses that by your experience so far grants access to first five positions...?
    I can just guess that should be higher than bronze(cause better opponent).
    Three losses maybe? Would like to know what to expect. icon_e_smile.gif
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,093 Chairperson of the Boards
    Morphis wrote:
    khurram wrote:
    Ekkias wrote:
    Could anyone who was in the Gold tier during the weekend NoP event share their critique of how brutal their opponents' decks were?

    Is everyone in gold running full mythic/rare decks with Tier 2 Planeswalkers?

    Thanks.

    Yep, there were a lot of mythics

    It was alright. I was honestly more afraid of the bug that freezes the game when you are against a red pw
    This week will be my first as gold(bronze for first two).

    What is the amount of losses that by your experience so far grants access to first five positions...?
    I can just guess that should be higher than bronze(cause better opponent).
    Three losses maybe? Would like to know what to expect. icon_e_smile.gif

    Zero losses. But i think you can get to top 5 with upto 3 losses too. It really depends on the wins of other top 10 players too.

    The first in my bracket had 69 points. The 5th had 63 points.

    There was another bracket where the top 2 had 69 each, followed by two 68s and then three 67s
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,093 Chairperson of the Boards
    We have a group for the game on facebook. Quite a few of my opponents were from there and in the same bracket as i am, we could converse after we faced each others decks. It was a nice experience.
    The event was even more enjoyable for me because of that
  • I finished with 61 points from 70 games with no crashes. There were some pretty hard decks. I managed to beat some, but I lost to others. To be honest, I think finishing top 25 is better than the rest of the rewards, so if you think you can finish top 25 in silver, but you're not sure about gold, stay silver.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    Well not *all* of the decks in Gold Tier are ridiculous.

    That said, try and picture your idea of the most broken possible Kiora deck you could play against, with the most overpowered, expensive mythics in it; You will play that deck, probably more than once, and probably not with your own Kiora deck, either.
  • Netatron
    Netatron Posts: 147
    Morphis wrote:
    khurram wrote:
    Ekkias wrote:
    Could anyone who was in the Gold tier during the weekend NoP event share their critique of how brutal their opponents' decks were?

    Is everyone in gold running full mythic/rare decks with Tier 2 Planeswalkers?

    Thanks.

    Yep, there were a lot of mythics

    It was alright. I was honestly more afraid of the bug that freezes the game when you are against a red pw
    This week will be my first as gold(bronze for first two).

    What is the amount of losses that by your experience so far grants access to first five positions...?
    I can just guess that should be higher than bronze(cause better opponent).
    Three losses maybe? Would like to know what to expect. icon_e_smile.gif

    I placed 4th with 3 losses last time, but since more people are getting to gold it will probably be a lot harder.
    shteev wrote:
    Well not *all* of the decks in Gold Tier are ridiculous.

    That said, try and picture your idea of the most broken possible Kiora deck you could play against, with the most overpowered, expensive mythics in it; You will play that deck, probably more than once, and probably not with your own Kiora deck, either.

    I've played against such a deck before, but didn't have this problem in NoP. Only one of my losses was to Kiora, one to Koth, and one to Gideon 2.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    Netatron wrote:
    shteev wrote:
    Well not *all* of the decks in Gold Tier are ridiculous.

    That said, try and picture your idea of the most broken possible Kiora deck you could play against, with the most overpowered, expensive mythics in it; You will play that deck, probably more than once, and probably not with your own Kiora deck, either.

    I've played against such a deck before, but didn't have this problem in NoP. Only one of my losses was to Kiora, one to Koth, and one to Gideon 2.

    Well, your mileage may vary, of course. I played a number of different Kiora decks in my Gold Tier bracket, but the only that really stuck out for me was EDHDads, which I played 3 times and was ungoldy powerful. I'd never seen anything like it in my 3000 games in QuickBattle (although I admit, I've not been playing so much QB recently).

    If you're the kind of player who occasionally experiences decks in QB which they know they have no way of beating with the card pool that they own, I'd say stay out of Gold Tier for the moment.
  • Morphis
    Morphis Posts: 975 Critical Contributor
    Playing gold tier right now...

    It is a contest for the most insanely op deck built to let ai own you.

    Some of the decks do not even make much sense, they just bet on the fact the ai will cascade and own you lol.

    Got a kiora with UC, Sphinx, great aurora, nissa renewal, and crus of tentacles...

    O

    M

    G


    I managed to win luckily and probably would have had no chance if the deck would have had exert influence.
    THANK GOD it looks like it had not it.
  • PapiLouis4
    PapiLouis4 Posts: 113
    Morphis wrote:
    Playing gold tier right now...

    It is a contest for the most insanely op deck built to let ai own you.

    Some of the decks do not even make much sense, they just bet on the fact the ai will cascade and own you lol.

    Got a kiora with UC, Sphinx, great aurora, nissa renewal, and crus of tentacles...

    O

    M

    G


    I managed to win luckily and probably would have had no chance if the deck would have had exert influence.
    THANK GOD it looks like it had not it.

    yeah i think exert influence is probably the most op card atm. unless theyre hexproofed, your gonna lose your strongest creature and the way msot decks are built in the top decks (with some exceptions) they beef up one creature
  • Morphis
    Morphis Posts: 975 Critical Contributor
    PapiLouis4 wrote:
    Morphis wrote:
    Playing gold tier right now...

    It is a contest for the most insanely op deck built to let ai own you.

    Some of the decks do not even make much sense, they just bet on the fact the ai will cascade and own you lol.

    Got a kiora with UC, Sphinx, great aurora, nissa renewal, and crus of tentacles...

    O

    M

    G


    I managed to win luckily and probably would have had no chance if the deck would have had exert influence.
    THANK GOD it looks like it had not it.

    yeah i think exert influence is probably the most op card atm. unless theyre hexproofed, your gonna lose your strongest creature and the way msot decks are built in the top decks (with some exceptions) they beef up one creature
    Nah.... Exert influence is fine....

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  • soultwist
    soultwist Posts: 325 Mover and Shaker
    I hope that's me, I at least made it close!

    Italian, eh? I was in Positano for a week last fall.

    Edited to add: And sitting about 1 kilometer from where AC Milan is playing in 5 hours.
  • Jazzpha
    Jazzpha Posts: 101 Tile Toppler
    Interesting that the Italian translation uses the noun 'bersaglio' instead of the past participle of the verb (bersagliata).

    I mean, I get why they did it that way (card space for font, and it's not technically incorrect), but I feel like the sense of 'target creature' is better conveyed in Italian by 'the creature being targeted', rather than 'creature which is also a target'.

    ANYWAY.

    I don't think Gold Tier is too OP. My only losses have come from putting my Jace deck, which is spell-heavy, up against Kioras or Jaces which run Sphinx of the Final Word. If I draw poorly and can't put creatures on the board, a hand full of bounce means nothing if you can't target enemy creatures.

    Other than that, I've been winning consistently with Ajani, Koth, Nissa and Sarkhan.
  • EDHdad
    EDHdad Posts: 609 Critical Contributor
    I've been Gold and I've been Bronze.

    In Gold, I was able to win 25 games, stayed in the top 10 all weekend, hit #1 a few times, stopped playing and eventually wound up #12 and got 100 crystals (as a prize, plus 100 more crystals in the event). I put these toward a Big Box, netting a Noyan Dar and a Crush of Tentacles. There were a few hairy moments in game play, but nothing as bad as the higher levels of the Oath of the Gatewatch event.

    In Bronze I was #9 at one point and got clobbered down to #152, which was enough to get me a random uncommon I already owned.

    I have no idea how many people are in the various brackets. It appears that gold brackets are physically much smaller, while bronze is packed to the gills with people who are ready to overtake you.

    It's likely this will change over time, but I would advise anyone who is avoiding being gold because of power level reasons to bite the bullet and become gold. If someone wants to stay bronze because they think they'll have an easier time staying in the top 5, I would suggest that this is probably not the case.
  • Theros
    Theros Posts: 490 Mover and Shaker
    I'm stayin in silver personally. I don't have good cards to move up to gold. I'm regretting moving to silver; much harder and losses. In bronze I could experiment with many cards and still progress with ease. Not so in silver
  • Morphis
    Morphis Posts: 975 Critical Contributor
    khurram wrote:
    We have a group for the game on facebook. Quite a few of my opponents were from there and in the same bracket as i am, we could converse after we faced each others decks. It was a nice experience.
    The event was even more enjoyable for me because of that
    Care to share the group details? icon_e_smile.gif
    I'd like to join.

    Edit: probably found it. I just do not use Facebook that much so I am not familiar with search and stuff in it.
  • khurram
    khurram Posts: 1,093 Chairperson of the Boards
    Morphis wrote:
    khurram wrote:
    We have a group for the game on facebook. Quite a few of my opponents were from there and in the same bracket as i am, we could converse after we faced each others decks. It was a nice experience.
    The event was even more enjoyable for me because of that
    Care to share the group details? icon_e_smile.gif
    I'd like to join.


    Ok. Just went through the forum rules and there does not appear to be any rules against posting links. But if i missed anything than sorry to the forum mods in advance

    Here it is

    https://m.facebook.com/groups/897507373677820

    I am not one of the admins but..,, someone should accept the request soon