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mags1587

Deadpool55 wrote:

Scrubby on Hulk I prefer the 535. Really the most important is 5 in black, but I hardly ever use his red and really only put him in on defense.

I'd level him also. Maybe I'm spoiled by Patch and C Mags but it's not terribly hard to one shot low level hulks.

I agree, the 5/3/5 build is the best for Hulk. And I never use Hulk's green or red; he's there to absorb damage and generate cascades. Some people do advocate keeping Hulk at a lower level but when you're facing max 141 teams it doesn't really make a lot of difference what his HP is. With your roster and assumed mmr you can keep Hulk at a lower level. I'd probably say don't level Hulk above around 85 until you get max covers for him (or at least max black covers for him).

Now, a question for you guys -- I'm trying to decide where to put my ISO next. I do intend to level lazyDaken as I get covers for him, but aside from that, I'm not sure if I should max out 3* characters that I have fully covered or put some levels into my sub-85 level 3* characters.

IM40, Hulk, and Patch are all at level 125 and could be maxed out. Or do I put ISO into Psylocke (level 65, soft cap 115), HT (level 64, soft cap 77), and BP (level 55, soft cap 89)? Oh, and lazyThor is at level 41, soft capped at 102, but I'm not too enthusiastic about him.

Any thoughts?

Unknown

I'd max patch, but I'm biased probably. I use him in every match that he's allowed in.

I used to put ISO into whichever character was powered up, but recently started to just focus on my main 3* team. I think it's working out better that way.

After I finish leveling hood then I'll probably save up so ISO and just dump it into powered up characters because I'll at least have my main 3 141's.

Bacon Pants

I would also go with Patch over Hulk as you have them at the same level...and Patch seems to be more useful with how you use Hulk. I will be maxing out Hulk first, but that's because I have him at 125 and Patch at 115. They are both on my list to max out, along with Psylocke and Steve Rogers...Daken is also on the list, but I need two more covers to finish him up.

I have enjoyed using Hulk and Thor together, they have tons of health and Anger is fantastic paired with Thor.

I made this little list before the ISO was included in the leveling process. Looking at it this way is slightly depressing though...so much ISO needed.

Hulk: 125/141 39,506
Patch: 115/141 61,610
Psylocke: 115/141 61,610
Daken 105/141** 81,715
Steve: 95/141 99,818

mags1587

Well, with all the Daken covers I'll (hopefully) be getting, the question may be moot for awhile, but I probably will work on Patch next.

Then the question is do I want to want to respec Patch from 5/3/5 to 3/5/5. I really do love the strike tiles but they can be dangerous...

BP, if you really want to be depressed, add up all the ISO it would take to max all of your characters to their soft cap. I did that once and it came out to about 1.5 million.

Bacon Pants

Have a good day everyone! A few good days actually. Unless D3 has some emergency Sunday or Monday hours, we're probably not going to be seeing any events until Tuesday.

Enjoy the weather! Go see X-Men, catch up on Game of Thrones, play with Legos...I don't know...Whatever it is, have fun!

mags1587

You spoke too soon. Events are back for me.

But yeah, it's likely that they'll be spotty so enjoying the weekend is probably a much better idea.

Bacon Pants

mags1587 wrote:

You spoke too soon. Events are back for me.

But yeah, it's likely that they'll be spotty so enjoying the weekend is probably a much better idea.

Indeed I did. Everything is back up, but my downed characters haven't made any healing progress. It's always something right?

The weather is gorgeous here in PA today...I have plenty of yard work to do. I've been getting crushed in Heavy Metal anyway, so putting the game down for a few hours or more won't be a bad thing today.

Unknown

Hey guys, just want to let you know that I will probably not have much time to spend on MPQ anymore. Please kick me out at your convenience. I could just leave but don't want to just take the 19k point contribution in Prodigal Sun from you guys if you can't fill the spot before event ends.

Thanks for the great Alliance! I know I wasn't as high scoring as some of you but being in here did make me try a bit more than if I were solo.

mags1587

Neokarasu wrote:

Hey guys, just want to let you know that I will probably not have much time to spend on MPQ anymore. Please kick me out at your convenience. I could just leave but don't want to just take the 19k point contribution in Prodigal Sun from you guys if you can't fill the spot before event ends.

Thanks for the great Alliance! I know I wasn't as high scoring as some of you but being in here did make me try a bit more than if I were solo.

Sorry to hear that, Neokarasu. It was great having you. Best of luck.

Unknown

Neokarasu wrote:

Hey guys, just want to let you know that I will probably not have much time to spend on MPQ anymore. Please kick me out at your convenience. I could just leave but don't want to just take the 19k point contribution in Prodigal Sun from you guys if you can't fill the spot before event ends.

Thanks for the great Alliance! I know I wasn't as high scoring as some of you but being in here did make me try a bit more than if I were solo.

Thanks for letting us know and you have been a great member.

I think we still had a few interested people from out short recruiting stint so I imagine we can get that spot filled pretty fast.

Unknown

One of our long time members as decided to leave as per above, he is still in alliance for the meantime holding a score in the PvE but we would like to open the door for one spot.

Going to try something a little different, we would prefer only active forum members with a measurable amount of posts to apply at this time.

We are a top 50 alliance, finished outside of top 10 in the last pvp by under 10 points. Sitting at rank 12 in Sentry PvE at the moment. If you are an active forum member you know who we are.

Looking for an up and coming or better roster. Established two star or already into three star core. We require daily play, no minimum score in events but ask that you do join each one and try. Life, extraneous circumstances, bad cascades, they happen. We understand.

And most of all a good attitude, joziers need not apply.

Please either post here, or if you prefer pm all the commanders listed on the first page.

--Chimaera

Bacon Pants

First, nerf mags!!

Since we were talking HP and ISO costs...I think HP is an alright value, a little high, but still a decent value. HP has multiple use as well, you can but tokens, covers, shields, or boosts with it. Yes, ISO can be used for boosts or tokens as well...ISO boosts are an alright value to me as well. Spending 500 ISO on a token, just no, no no no.

ISO, no matter how you look at it is horribly overpriced. Buying it is a foolish move (I have with gift cards), selling cards off for the ISO is even worse. $50 for 50,000 ISO is obviously more fair and a better ROI. I can't imagine reducing the ISO costs hurting D3...yet they talk about limiting ISO, which makes no sense to me. (I have more to say on this but need to think about how to put it)

I could have gotten 86,000 ISO for Spider-man while it took a hell of a lot more than that to level him up. I feel that game has changed from wanting covers to wanting ISO.

Off topic of the above, what's the point of the standard token anymore? All of those covers are now available at the end of a match...the standard token is essentially the post match award now, it is useless. It's probably time for a 3 star only token as well, or a heroic with better three star odds.

Also, I'm not sure where I'm going with any of this, just discussing stuff.

Moral

I'd have to say limiting iso is the only restriction left keeping the game from being completely pay to win. For 100.00 you can get 16 covers using hp. As I said in game, it takes 300.00 in iso to get a 3* to 130.

400.00 is a large barrier to buying your way to a max pvp team.

As much as I want a max Daken and sentry, if the prices were reduced to where I could drop the money (and consider it a value) then the top MMR would flood with Max characters immediately after every new release.

It's the art of giving a taste and leaving your audience wanting more.

I'm more concerned with older characters becoming obsolete and a "waste of iso and roster space" from power creep. There should still be some joy in getting GSBW covers for new players beyond the completionist aspect of the game.

Bacon Pants

It is a fine art indeed. And all about how one values it...the ISO costs are very interesting to me.

I definitely agree with a needed power creep. I love using GSBW but she is so damn squishy...Hood with his AP steal helps his complete lack of health. Buffed IM40 is a beast, but at 141 with high attack costs and an AP drain he sucks. Daredevil is intriguing but way too random to be effective or reliable. I'm definitely missing people, but those ones are fresh in my mind.

Then there's the dark avengers with 2 powers still. I'd like to see them get a third power before any other characters are added. I don't expect that to happen though as new things are shiny and new and we must have them. Also, no more red-yellow-green characters!!

mags1587

Bacon Pants wrote:

First, nerf mags!!

Sometimes I really feel like I picked the wrong nickname to use in this forum...

They do need to do something about the tokens. Standard tokens are essentially ISO at this point, and heroics? There are so many 3* now the chances of you getting a cover you need is close to nil. Lately I've gotten more 4* covers than 3* covers from heroic tokens.

Moral

Don't see the added 3rd power happening unless they adjust health and damage output to match scaling at 141. (I would love this as 230 Rags would be significantly weaker).

I also think the powers are designed to be balanced with just the two. IMO, it is likely D3 would rebalanced the original two when adding in a third.

Bacon Pants

mags1587 wrote:

Bacon Pants wrote:

First, nerf mags!!

Sometimes I really feel like I picked the wrong nickname to use in this forum...

Haha, maybe you need a nerf too? I still wish I would have made my name Bacon Magic. The outbursts would have been hilarious.

"How the **** does the seed team have a maxed Lazy Thor!?!? What the hell!!!"

Alucard_I_Am

This sucks. 8 hour shield only defends against 1 loss and shield servers go down right before my shield expires. By the time servers come up I bet I would have lost 3 or 4 fights we me not being able to defend. Good times.

Moral

I hope it's universal. Otherwise shields drop anyway and those that can log in go wild.

mags1587

I lucked out with timing. I got up to 900 points and threw up a shield apparently right before the server started having issues. We were out of the top 100 as an alliance, too -- I think a lot of people were planning on playing this morning.

Morak, it's never universal. And how much do you want to bet that D3 will never even acknowledge the issues?