The Hulk Event Discussion Thread

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Yoxgix wrote:

I can go no farther my highest lvl hero is 56 and every fight is versus lvl 110 at the minimum with many at 230. How am I supposed to compete against opponents who can one shot my heroes. This is not fun at all.

Do you have any of the boosted characters for the event? Any of the characters with red crystals next to them will be considerably stronger than usual.

Bacon Pants

Ghast wrote:

Yoxgix wrote:

I can go no farther my highest lvl hero is 56 and every fight is versus lvl 110 at the minimum with many at 230. How am I supposed to compete against opponents who can one shot my heroes. This is not fun at all.

Do you have any of the boosted characters for the event? Any of the characters with red crystals next to them will be considerably stronger than usual.

I lucked out with Black Panther, I have a level 15 with a black cover. Boosted he has over 5000hp, his blue takes point over Spidey so he gets sent out as the sacrificial lamb quite often...and that attack is nice when I'm not using Punisher.

KaioShinDE

I have lots of boosted chars and it's still ****.

Boosted 85 OBW still gets one-shot all the time by Juggs combos.
Level 100 Punisher, he isn't nearly boosted as much as the other chars though. Tiny bit of extra HP, his black does like 150 damage more... hard to notice he is boosted at all. Other than that he steals all tiles from my Patch so his red is useless in the event...
BP got an insane boost, but I only have 1 cover for him so he is useless apart from being the access ticket to the highest grossing and easiest missions (I guess since the community scaling is lowest on his missions).
My hulk is low level and only has green covers, didn't check how much he is boosted.
I have a Thor with maxed covers but only level 20 or so. haven't checked how much he is boosted.

Anyway, there could be 10 more boosted chars, it doesn't matter much. The cornerstone is OBW. Without her heal I can't grind missions in fast succession. And she keeps getting one-shot.

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KaioShinDE wrote:

I have lots of boosted chars and it's still ****.

Boosted 85 OBW still gets one-shot all the time by Juggs combos.
Level 100 Punisher, he isn't nearly boosted as much as the other chars though. Tiny bit of extra HP, his black does like 150 damage more... hard to notice he is boosted at all. Other than that he steals all tiles from my Patch so his red is useless in the event...
BP got an insane boost, but I only have 1 cover for him so he is useless apart from being the access ticket to the highest grossing and easiest missions (I guess since the community scaling is lowest on his missions).
My hulk is low level and only has green covers, didn't check how much he is boosted.
I have a Thor with maxed covers but only level 20 or so. haven't checked how much he is boosted.

Anyway, there could be 10 more boosted chars, it doesn't matter much. The cornerstone is OBW. Without her heal I can't grind missions in fast succession. And she keeps getting one-shot.

I have the exact same team as you and yeah some matches are hard but i find it alot easier than other pve events. i use my Punisher-100, OBW-85 and Thor 60.... I match blue tiles first so i can heal anyone if juggernaut gets them, but i also collect green and red to block him off. Thors green is a godsend and then i use Punishers red and its getting me through this entire tournament

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With the way the scaling works in this event, if you have nobody who can take one Headbutt at full health there's something wrong with your team composition. Juggernaut is usually not level 230 in this event. OBW is probably never meant to be able to take a Headbutt in the face since she's got less HP than the normal 2*, not to mention Espionage generally makes her far more vulnerable than anyone else because you have to have OBW making matches in 3 colors to maximize her power.

KaioShinDE

She has like 3.7k HP boosted. Two times match damage from someone can bring her more closely to 3k, then a green from juggs does like 1k + probably triggers two or three more matches from a cascade and then there is no chance to survive the headbutt. I guess I can sent someone else in front if I see it coming to die for her, but even that is **** because the AI is so strange with low AP powers and sometimes uses them and sometimes not. I'd often end up having to use other chars for 3 or 4 turns before he finally uses his combo. And OBW is so far boosted that she takes at least 2 colors, 3 if I don't bring Punisher (he couldn't surive that aforementioned chain of events either)... The situation just sucks. How exactly do you propose I change my team? I don't have anyone with +5k health besides Black Panther, but he is completely useless on the offense.

Of course this doesn't happen every fight, I can also win 4 or 5 fights in a row with no problems at all. But to compete for Top100 I'd need to do 20 matches in 4 different events within 2 hours. At that point it just becomes a lottery, OBW dies sometimes and there is still nothing I can do about it.

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When facing Juggernaut, watch his mana closely.

Prioritize:

Deny Red
Grab Purple
Grab Blue
Deny Green

Don't use Aggressive recon unless you can get your max (2 or 3) from red.

If you see a headbutt coming (6 red or 8 red, depends on level) make sure oBW is not the hero you make a match with.

Kind of the same when facing hulk, deny red and green, keep an eye on his mana levels. Don't let oBW be in front when he starts playing "Happy and you Know It"

HailMary

TheUnwiseOne wrote:

I have the exact same team as you and yeah some matches are hard but i find it alot easier than other pve events. i use my Punisher-100, OBW-85 and Thor 60.... I match blue tiles first so i can heal anyone if juggernaut gets them, but i also collect green and red to block him off. Thors green is a godsend and then i use Punishers red and its getting me through this entire tournament

Yeah, using OBW against Juggs, you gotta hoard blue and purple at the outset to be able to Aggro Recon right when Juggs gets 3 red + 3 green (for max AP-accrual benefit), or six in either color (for ability denial), and heal if he manages to smack one of your hitters. I've definitely gotten OBW one-shotted a couple of times mistiming a blue/purple grab, though. Unless you've already got Juggs within 2-3 big hits of death, the match is over at that point.

KaioShinDE

Do you all have 3 purple OBWs? I have 4 purple, so it costs me 10 AP to Recon. It's usually too late.

Kavel

Anyone else noticed some odd environmental damage going on with Daken? I've seen his healing factor animation activate quite a few times when I've never targeted him for damage.

poomermon

Kavel wrote:

Anyone else noticed some odd environmental damage going on with Daken? I've seen his healing factor animation activate quite a few times when I've never targeted him for damage.

Probably just his regeneration backfiring. If there are not enough yellow tiles on the board he will lose life instead triggering the animation.

Kavel

poomermon wrote:

Kavel wrote:

Anyone else noticed some odd environmental damage going on with Daken? I've seen his healing factor animation activate quite a few times when I've never targeted him for damage.

Probably just his regeneration backfiring. If there are not enough yellow tiles on the board he will lose life instead triggering the animation.

Oh wow. I never knew that.

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The only case you can't predict when a Headbutt will happen is if they have Moonstone and Juggernaut, which is not a common combination, not to mention it's still better to take a Photon Blast over a Headbutt.

Even running the cheapest combos in the game you can hardly ensure you have the game wrapped up before they make two red matches, so someone has to be able to take a Headbutt (and preferably not die). Sometimes they will get red matches very early and you're probably screwed if you don't have a tanky character like BP or Thor taking the Headbutt (or not able to get in front).

HailMary

KaioShinDE wrote:

Do you all have 3 purple OBWs? I have 4 purple, so it costs me 10 AP to Recon. It's usually too late.

Yep, 3's across the board for me.

This event finally got me a usable OBW, and yeah, I'm keeping her purple at 3, precisely for the reason you mention.

mouser

KaioShinDE wrote:

Do you all have 3 purple OBWs? I have 4 purple, so it costs me 10 AP to Recon. It's usually too late.

I use a 2 purple OBW. Gets recon off even quicker, downside is no Black though, which is something of a pain against Venom.

Unknown

My oBW is 1/4/3. Not sure what I would do if I did get another purple, it works so well as it is. Definitely not taking it past 3, even temporarily.

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KaioShinDE wrote:

Do you all have 3 purple OBWs? I have 4 purple, so it costs me 10 AP to Recon. It's usually too late.

Yes, because at lvl 3 then you can theoretically get 8 purple in 2 matches (3+1 stolen from Espionage), or at worse 3 matches. At level 4+ you will need an additional match which can make all the difference.

Although you don't get to steal purple with Aggressive Recon at lvl 3, you do steal purple through Espionage, which is slower but still a good way to deny your opponent.

Also if you are having difficulties, make sure you use the +3 blue/purple boost. I use it almost routinely for all lvl 230 fights, because a single loss means wasting 3 heals, not to mention the time it takes for some of these lvl 230 fights. The 200 ISO is cheaper than having to wait for heals to regen, or worse still, spending HP on heals.

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eternalrevolt wrote:

My oBW is 1/4/3. Not sure what I would do if I did get another purple, it works so well as it is. Definitely not taking it past 3, even temporarily.

Imo, you need to go 3/5/5 regardless, because OBW at lvl 85 is still paper-doll fragile, I just can't imagine trying to get her to survive as a lvl 77 or anything less for that matter. Especially if you are playing with heroes that don't match blue/purple (Patch, Punisher, Hulk, etc.) she will be out front for all those matches taking damage.

HailMary

Funny thing about the scaling right now: Canada's enemy levels are similar to Greenland's levels for me.

Canada: Punisher - L94s
Canada: BP - L89s
Canada: Misc. - L90-L130

Greenland: Punisher - L129s
Greenland: BP - L73s
Greenland: I - L133

I guess Greenland is generally more intimidating, which discourages people from even looking at its BP levels? This is gonna make Canada a PITA, which is very un-Canada-like.

Jathro

stateheel wrote:

Chimaera wrote:

I'd just be happy you got a black hulk, some of us are selling their 3rd green cover of their 5/0/0 hulk -.-

Funny thing is I only have black Hulks. 0/0/2 so far.

Racist comment is racist.

But seriously, that's pretty incredible seeing how so many of us are throwing out greens like it's stale bread