Episode 4: Iso-8 Brotherhood Discussion

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nihilium wrote:

Is anyone else having problems with the event token? my last 6 token gave me 6 magnetos.
I get tinykitty luck, but they didnt even mix up the colors o.o

I got 3 mn mags blue in a row out of 4 pulls. Bug?

kensterr

I feel better now after finally finishing the Moonstone/Venom/Bullseye mission with lots of boosts. Got a Standard token and it gave me my first Doom blue. yay!

Unknown

My scaling has been tough but do able. I've been replaying missions all day, all I've got in return is tinykitty 20iso! Everytime. Please remod. And the covers I've been pulling are pure tinykitty.

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Having Psylocke in the 50s with 4 in red or black makes a huge difference. I don't know if the point is to get people to buy Psylocke covers, since you'd need some pretty insane luck to do that. I'm sitting at 3r and I can see that 4th cover will make my Strike Tile hit about 200 and that's an amount that can put a visible dent to the HP of even the level 230 DAs.

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nadarath wrote:

So I was wondering if that 150k Punisher reward is achievable. I'm going pretty strong at the moment with 53k points. Since 3 days passed and we have 6 more to go i think we should be able to reach it with full clears. But i was also wondering if anyone noticed any change in points you can get for bracket? Or is it possible that the missions will be on rotation and we will get repeat with unlocked crystal mission ?

You doing better than me. Some back of the envelope maths say I just going to be a little short on getting the red cover at 110K at the current rate I am getting points - (need both the green and red to finish Frank off). So its time to pray to the rubber banding gods to start kicking in.

Polares

The Ares, Juggernaut, Moonstone mision at 230 in sudan is IMPOSSIBLE.

Jug and Ares can do more than 5000 HPs in one attack!!! For just 6 Aps Jugs slams you and kills one of your characters. Ares can do the same for 10 yellow, with his green, for just 5 he can do 2500+ HPs... IMPOSSIBLE.

I have tried with two of the most succesfull combinatios 99 Spidey+MagnetoNN and 115 Patch + 99 Spidey + 95 Punisher, and nothing. I don't have time to stunlock.

And what it is even worse is that with the new R48 I can't buy boosts :S (for now). They should have released this update after the event.


How do you win this fight? I need help :S:S:S (for the first time in a looooooong time)

kensterr

Polares wrote:

The Ares, Juggernaut, Moonstone mision at 230 in sudan is IMPOSSIBLE.

Jug and Ares can do more than 5000 HPs in one attack!!! For just 6 Aps Jugs slams you and kills one of your characters. Ares can do the same for 10 yellow, with his green, for just 5 he can do 2500+ HPs... IMPOSSIBLE.

I have tried with two of the most succesfull combinatios 99 Spidey+MagnetoNN and 115 Patch + 99 Spidey + 95 Punisher, and nothing. I don't have time to stunlock.

And what it is even worse is that with the new R48 I can't buy boosts :S (for now). They should have released this update after the event.


How do you win this fight? I need help :S:S:S (for the first time in a looooooong time)

I got very lucky with +3AP for Blue and Purple boost, with 40% rainbow damage boost and 10 or 20% blue and purple damage boost. The board was very kind to me after 4-5 failed attempts. >.<

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kensterr wrote:

Polares wrote:

The Ares, Juggernaut, Moonstone mision at 230 in sudan is IMPOSSIBLE.

Jug and Ares can do more than 5000 HPs in one attack!!! For just 6 Aps Jugs slams you and kills one of your characters. Ares can do the same for 10 yellow, with his green, for just 5 he can do 2500+ HPs... IMPOSSIBLE.

I have tried with two of the most succesfull combinatios 99 Spidey+MagnetoNN and 115 Patch + 99 Spidey + 95 Punisher, and nothing. I don't have time to stunlock.

And what it is even worse is that with the new R48 I can't buy boosts :S (for now). They should have released this update after the event.


How do you win this fight? I need help :S:S:S (for the first time in a looooooong time)

I got very lucky with +3AP for Blue and Purple boost, with 40% rainbow damage boost and 10 or 20% blue and purple damage boost. The board was very kind to me after 4-5 failed attempts. >.<

1st > depend your luck... get a nice board...
2nd > spidey or OBW help a lots XD
3rd > spidey and Modern Magneto
4th > punisher retribution op (40% hp below straight ko)
5th > always match 4 tile as it will certainly grant you a nice board... and for some cases i find it that the AI will match environment tile instead color if you manage match 4 tile and followed up with other tile matches.. not sure if this is proven or not...
6th > others method

But overall i dun think is impossible to clear the mission... just need to keep trying...

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And also (stating the obvious, I presume), monitor the AP levels of your opponents. If Juggernaut or Ares get into clobbering range and you don't have enough blue to stun - retreat the hell out of there. There is no shame in that, if it means saving a health pack (or three).

over_clocked

Meh, whenever they let me use the Spidey/Venom combo, I abuse it. It's not like I have anyone in my roster capable of downing lvl 230 Ares and Juggs and Daken otherwise.
If Venom is ruled out, go the safe and slow way (either Spidey/oBW when the enemy team relies heavily on blue, purple and black or Spidey/mStorm when in Desert and in most other cases, frankly, and whatever the third required character is. For goon-only fights Daken, mStorm and oBW work best for me, but they are my only maxed characters).
Magneto MN is nice in generating blue for Spidey, Punisher and Psylocke add some punch, DD sits useless unless you trick the enemy into many, many Ambushes (for that to work, don't kill the dudes that are strong in red first, leave them for last). Haven't leveled Cap and haven't been using cStorm much, her 12 green sometimes takes too long to get for me.
If you have stun from Spidey, but it's too expensive, stun the most dangerous dudes only when they are about to use a killing ability, so that their minions use the AP instead or something (e.g. green for Ares and Empiricists).

Polares

The Ladder wrote:

And also (stating the obvious, I presume), monitor the AP levels of your opponents. If Juggernaut or Ares get into clobbering range and you don't have enough blue to stun - retreat the hell out of there. There is no shame in that, if it means saving a health pack (or three).

Yes, maybe this is my mistake. If they have 6 red or 10 yellow I should retreat, and try again after healing. But you should not need to do that to win a fight :S

I have tried 2, 3, 4 of DX_das options and lost. And maybe it is not impossible but If I keep loosing and having to use health packs, then I can't do the other missions and loose a lot of points :S (I don't have much time this week)

With the +3 AP to all color, and +3 AP to blue and pink maybe I should have and option but as I said I didn't have one and now I can't buy one.

over_clocked

Polares wrote:

The Ladder wrote:

And also (stating the obvious, I presume), monitor the AP levels of your opponents. If Juggernaut or Ares get into clobbering range and you don't have enough blue to stun - retreat the hell out of there. There is no shame in that, if it means saving a health pack (or three).

Yes, maybe this is my mistake. If they have 6 red or 10 yellow I should retreat, and try again after healing. But you should not need to do that to win a fight :S

I have tried 2, 3, 4 of DX_das options and lost.

With the +3 AP to all color, and +3 AP to blue and pink maybe I should have and option but as I said I didn't have one and now I can't buy one.

Could you show us a screencap with your most used and leveled heroes? Also always grab the color that your enemy needs yourself, or at least don't let them do it. If minions generate AP for them, too bad, stun the main villain.
I don't have to use color boosts but then I lose some fights, too.

Polares

locked wrote:

Polares wrote:

The Ladder wrote:

And also (stating the obvious, I presume), monitor the AP levels of your opponents. If Juggernaut or Ares get into clobbering range and you don't have enough blue to stun - retreat the hell out of there. There is no shame in that, if it means saving a health pack (or three).

Yes, maybe this is my mistake. If they have 6 red or 10 yellow I should retreat, and try again after healing. But you should not need to do that to win a fight :S

I have tried 2, 3, 4 of DX_das options and lost.

With the +3 AP to all color, and +3 AP to blue and pink maybe I should have and option but as I said I didn't have one and now I can't buy one.

Could you show us a screencap with your most used and leveled heroes? Also always grab the color that your enemy needs yourself, or at least don't let them do it. If minions generate AP for them, too bad, stun the main villain.
I don't have to use color boosts but then I lose some fights, too.

My main team now is Spidey 99 4/5/4, Patch 115 4/4/5, Punisher 95 5/5/3. Between spidey stun lock, Patch green and Punisher black I usually finish all the fights without problems, but with this fight I don't have time to build my strategy.

Other characters I have and can be useful are Iron Man 105 5/4/2, OBW is 65 5/5/3, Magneto NN 20 4/5/4, Magneto classic 70 4/5/4 (I will respec soon to 5/4/4), Hulk 75 5/4/3, Thor 85 5/3/5, AstWolverine 85 5/5/3 and Hood 35 4/5/2

As I said I think this is the only fight I have tried more than 6 times and lost all the fights :S (and I have done a lot of 230 fights, but boosts help a lot and now I can't use them).

SolidQ

Polares wrote:

The Ares, Juggernaut, Moonstone mision at 230 in sudan is IMPOSSIBLE.

Possible - http://i.imgur.com/IXOBytO.jpg

Polares

SolidQ wrote:

Polares wrote:

The Ares, Juggernaut, Moonstone mision at 230 in sudan is IMPOSSIBLE.

Possible - http://i.imgur.com/IXOBytO.jpg

I have to respec OBW to 3/5/5

over_clocked

Polares wrote:

My main team now is Spidey 99 4/5/4, Patch 115 4/4/5, Punisher 95 5/5/3. Between spidey stun lock, Patch green and Punisher black I usually finish all fight without problems, but with this fight I don't have time to build my strategy.

Your Spidey has a lvl 5 stunlock, I'm not even sure what could cause problems for you, if not some bad bad luck. Anyway it's a good thing to take out Ares/Jugg first, while stunning the other, whoever gets close to a Headbutt/Onslaught/Sunder first. And don't let Moonstone get 11 red. (17 black is laughable, you should be able to deny this, purple is no problem as long as there are some special tiles of yours, should be easy to always have special tiles with Patch/Punisher/Spidey). Since you need green, yellow, red and black yourself which they also need, grab these colors and if you can, disrupt other possible matches so that the enemy has to take a dead/least useful color, e.g. purple, environment. And blue you need yourself, too. But be careful with them having enough env. AP, better stun if you got any blue.
Also I'm not sure why you would need Punisher here, Retribution? You may want to try ditching either Punisher or Patch and taking any AP generator for Spidey's stunlock such as Magneto MN, mStorm.

eidehua

If you guys didn't grind out all of prologue, there might be some ap boosts left that convert to the new ones.

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eidehua wrote:

If you guys didn't grind out all of prologue, there might be some ap boosts left that convert to the new ones.

I just did that myself (I keep a list of all the rewards I have left to get), so I was able to get all the AP boosts I need so they're now available. Certainly makes the level 200+ DA fights more manageable.

Polares

locked wrote:

Polares wrote:

My main team now is Spidey 99 4/5/4, Patch 115 4/4/5, Punisher 95 5/5/3. Between spidey stun lock, Patch green and Punisher black I usually finish all fight without problems, but with this fight I don't have time to build my strategy.

Your Spidey has a lvl 5 stunlock, I'm not even sure what could cause problems for you, if not some bad bad luck. Anyway it's a good thing to take out Ares/Jugg first, while stunning the other, whoever gets close to a Headbutt/Onslaught/Sunder first. And don't let Moonstone get 11 red. (17 black is laughable, you should be able to deny this, purple is no problem as long as there are some special tiles of yours, should be easy to always have special tiles with Patch/Punisher/Spidey). Since you need green, yellow, red and black yourself which they also need, grab these colors and if you can, disrupt other possible matches so that the enemy has to take a dead/least useful color, e.g. purple, environment. And blue you need yourself, too. But be careful with them having enough env. AP, better stun if you got any blue.
Also I'm not sure why you would need Punisher here, Retribution? You may want to try ditching either Punisher or Patch and taking any AP generator for Spidey's stunlock such as Magneto MN, mStorm.

The problem is that I don't have enough time to stunlock at least Ares and Jug. I have tried with Magneto MN but I coudln't generate engough blues before they killed my spidey (you need at least 8-10 APs to stun lock two team members, more If you want to stun lock all the team). Maybe I am waiting two much before I start using Spidey blue. One of my problems is that Spidey is always the first to die beacuse blue and pink are his colors (my Magneto MN is just level 20). I will try with mStorm but she is 20 so I hope she survives long enough

Maybe I will try also with IM40 instead of Punisher, so I can use him as a battery. Or even with Spidey, Magneto and IM40 (two batteries and Spidey).

Maybe it is just that I have very bad luck...

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Polares wrote:

locked wrote:

Polares wrote:

My main team now is Spidey 99 4/5/4, Patch 115 4/4/5, Punisher 95 5/5/3. Between spidey stun lock, Patch green and Punisher black I usually finish all fight without problems, but with this fight I don't have time to build my strategy.

Your Spidey has a lvl 5 stunlock, I'm not even sure what could cause problems for you, if not some bad bad luck. Anyway it's a good thing to take out Ares/Jugg first, while stunning the other, whoever gets close to a Headbutt/Onslaught/Sunder first. And don't let Moonstone get 11 red. (17 black is laughable, you should be able to deny this, purple is no problem as long as there are some special tiles of yours, should be easy to always have special tiles with Patch/Punisher/Spidey). Since you need green, yellow, red and black yourself which they also need, grab these colors and if you can, disrupt other possible matches so that the enemy has to take a dead/least useful color, e.g. purple, environment. And blue you need yourself, too. But be careful with them having enough env. AP, better stun if you got any blue.
Also I'm not sure why you would need Punisher here, Retribution? You may want to try ditching either Punisher or Patch and taking any AP generator for Spidey's stunlock such as Magneto MN, mStorm.

The problem is that I don't have enough time to stunlock at least Ares and Jug. I have tried with Magneto MN but I coudln't generate engough blues before they killed my spidey (you need at least 8-10 APs to stun lock two team members, more If you want to stun lock all the team). Maybe I am waiting two much before I start using Spidey blue. One of my problems is that Spidey is always the first to die beacuse blue and pink are his colors (my Magneto MN is just level 20). I will try with mStorm but she is 20 so I hope she survives long enough

Maybe I will try also with IM40 instead of Punisher, so I can use him as a battery. Or even with Spidey, Magneto and IM40 (two batteries and Spidey).

Maybe it is just that I have very bad luck...

You must be playing wrong. I use exactly the team - Punisher, SpiderMan and MN Magneto. I am able to beat every fight. Ye sure they are hard and i have to plan a lot of moves ahead but they are doable. I always go for Ares first and try to kill him. Collect Purple on high priority followed by Blue. Once you have 9 Purple and around 6 blue you cant really lose this fight. 9 Purple can give you up to 10-12 blue per use.