PVE: Venom Bomb (2015-12-24 to 2015-12-28)

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  • Fuzzbap
    Fuzzbap Posts: 16 Just Dropped In
    With playtime at a premium over Xmas, what you're really looking for is a fun to moderately challenging PvE. Not the stellar frustration levels of Back in Black & Red.
  • frostCoH
    frostCoH Posts: 71 Match Maker
    The mission "terrible teamwork" is completely unacceptable. How there are people in my nice that already have a LT completion AND then some points already I don't know...but this whole series has been God-awful. Starts fun then just became totally unfun and unfair.
  • frostCoH
    frostCoH Posts: 71 Match Maker
    puppychow wrote:
    OJSP wrote:

    She-Hulk, Luke Cage and Iron Fist should be able to do it too, especially if we boost Purple for IF to quickly turn the board black. Power of Attorney is good to clear the board.

    I beat the node using this team. Ate 2 carnage red attacks. Wasn't pretty. But got the job done. The key is to rotate your tank up front when carnage triggers his red.
    Yes IF YOU'RE lucky. But this game has a sick idea of "chance", plus it always seems on the final mission you get tile drought unless you like stupid white team up tiles.
  • Der_Lex
    Der_Lex Posts: 1,035 Chairperson of the Boards
    "Hey, how can we top that Venom/Carnage/red+green feeder node in sub 3?"

    "I know, let's repeat that node at the end of sub 4, AND use that combination for the last Miles Morales essential as well! It'll be TWICE as much fun!"

    And this, dear boys and girls of Demiurge/D3, is why people have their doubts about the quality of your playtesting, because this has "you're supposed to lose" written all over it again. Beating this node in sub3 against overscaled opponents wasn't fun. Having to do it again against even more overscaled opponents in sub 4 isn't fun either. And having to do it yet again with a team that has to include a character that most players will only have 1-4 covers for (and of course the actually useful cover, invisibility, was the hardest one to get in his release pve)... I just don't see how something like this gets through your testing process without getting flagged as "too frustrating to be enjoyable."
  • PeeOne
    PeeOne Posts: 237 Tile Toppler
    I tried this with my go to team for this event... BWGS BP Gamora they have smashed most nodes

    Not the final node so after reading comments here and waiting to get one heal for BWGS I matched her with SW and her brother QS

    Powered up Pink/blue, Green/black and stockpile

    Smashed them to smithereens!!

    Lost QS but SW and BWGS were at half health at finish - perhaps a good board - but no really big cascades - maybe luck!!

    PS tried the SHulk/IF/LC and got close but they aren't strong in my teams

    I should add the enemies for me are at Level 189 in this node - my highest are 166 (2x3*s) after getting rid of my 5 stars.. Not as high as some I've read in the thread but more balanced than when I had higher!!

    Also I haven't had much trouble with any of the nodes - only 3 i had to re-attempt after losing and that's cause I went in without under healed characters
  • puppychow
    puppychow Posts: 1,453
    frostCoH wrote:
    puppychow wrote:
    OJSP wrote:

    She-Hulk, Luke Cage and Iron Fist should be able to do it too, especially if we boost Purple for IF to quickly turn the board black. Power of Attorney is good to clear the board.

    I beat the node using this team. Ate 2 carnage red attacks. Wasn't pretty. But got the job done. The key is to rotate your tank up front when carnage triggers his red.
    Yes IF YOU'RE lucky. But this game has a sick idea of "chance", plus it always seems on the final mission you get tile drought unless you like stupid white team up tiles.

    Tile drought? Not much you can do about TU tiles. But the shehulk, if, cage team offers rainbow coverage, PLUS damage powers in bk, yel, red, gr, PLUS passive damage and protection PLUS buffed characters. It's pretty much the best 3* team you can bring into the event, to be honest. icon_cool.gif
  • loslupus77
    loslupus77 Posts: 38 Just Dropped In
    Just pure and utter garbage execution for this PVE. First, there should explicitly stated means to get LT (ie.three full-score sweeps per day) that don't vary from one event to another. I've done three full ones and half an hour grind at the end and I just MIGHT make it to LT. Luckily I haven't stopped at my normal "three full sweeps and rest" or I would be mad at missing LT. With new events you have no idea how much you have to score per sub-event, so especially those shouldn't be the ones that you have to go the extra mile. And what a nice way to make us grind during Christmas. Guess the developers aren't Christians icon_razz.gif

    And more than that, this event really shows that goon-feeding needs to be fixed. It really shouldn't be that hard to fix the game so that NPCs can only use the ap that they generate only for their own powers, not to be used by playable characters. It really hasn't been funny to eat Carnage's and Venom's best powers every couple of rounds without even getting bad board. And it wouldn't hurt anyone if Carnage only could use his passive for non-goon-powers.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I have 24 Command points, and couldn't wait to beat the last node today and get 25...

    First, I had to figure out how to beat it.

    I ended up using:

    lv213 4,5,2 rulk,
    lv 263 1,0,0 Phoenix and
    lv118 2,5,3 Thor

    Used luck, built up green and waited for carnage to kill off phoenix, then protected her resurrect tile. Tanked with Rulk. When she resurrects, I use phoenix force twice: by that time carnage is about down to 5k life, and has damaged his own team down to around 8k. Two phoenix force at this point wins for me.

    This combo has worked 16 out of 22 times for me (I had a lot of health packs from trying to get that purple rulk cover out of the taco vault a week back)...

    16 times, no Command point though???

    Lol, ****!

    Ran out of Health packs, so I decided to use a random team. Used the new Miles and got off his invisibility, it placed the tile in a safe place, and guess what??? Carnage kills off his entire team. He cant hit you, but just keeps creating strike tiles and using his red attack.

    So that might be another technique some of you may want to try.
  • Akari
    Akari Posts: 492 Mover and Shaker
    Dumbest thing about Carnage is that you're basically guaranteed to eat his red. GUARANTEED. There's just no easy way to grind points in this. I got the CP from the Miles node in sub 3, but no way I can grind out the final node more than 2-3 more times before the end before completely running out of health packs. And sub 4 is worse? Happy New Years to you too! /sarcasm
  • Figure15
    Figure15 Posts: 284 Mover and Shaker
    Finally found a team to handle 242 carnage and venom. Lvl 140 Spidey 128 hood and 2mags. Rush blue and purple, build reserves to stun carnage and venom, dormanu's aid will hopefully keep the feeder tiles down. Mags red, hood black and yellow when available. Took minimal damage.
  • slowej25
    slowej25 Posts: 52
    This will be the first PVE I will not make it to LT since they introduced it. Three optimals and a small grind like usual, but I'm 20k points away in the final sub. Plus every clear consumes health packs so I really can't grind hard.

    Thay said, this is probably the worst PVE I've done and I'm on day 603 of playing this game.

    Devs, if you're reading this, this needs a retune.
  • eMouse
    eMouse Posts: 8 Just Dropped In
    Went through the trouble of setting up a forum account to say that this is indeed one of the worst scenarios I've played.

    My top two characters are 150-buffed 2 star.png Cap and Ms. Marvel. Everything else is level 94 or less.

    No matter who I field, Carnage can eat through the entire team with roughly 3 uses of scythe, so every game has lasted about 8 or 9 turns. Not enough time to boost up any powers that will stun or steal AP.

    And the fourth round is more of the same? I guess I'm sitting out until the next story comes around.
  • Lemminkäinen
    Lemminkäinen Posts: 378 Mover and Shaker
    Vesper Specter wrote:
    Ran out of Health packs, so I decided to use a random team. Used the new Miles and got off his invisibility, it placed the tile in a safe place, and guess what??? Carnage kills off his entire team. He cant hit you, but just keeps creating strike tiles and using his red attack.

    So that might be another technique some of you may want to try.
    Hahaha, bringing the "puzzle" to Puzzle Quest!

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  • areacode212
    areacode212 Posts: 150 Tile Toppler
    Worst PvE you've ever done. I can't even be bothered to get T100.
  • bOmbast
    bOmbast Posts: 45 Just Dropped In
    Beat the Carnage/Venom/goon node on 1st try, but with some luck.

    Used a team with boosted MnMag, CapAm plus Totally Awesome Hulk as a tank. Boosted blue/purple AP. Got lucky with the board and a couple of cascades early on, so I was able to use Cap's blueflag.png stun after just 3-4 turns.
    Kept Carnage more or less permastunned until he was downed, and through Cap's redflag.png i managed to hoard red for MnMag's redflag.png nuke to take out Venom fairly quickly. Cap's red/blue also neutralized the most threatening special tiles on the board.
    Hardly took a hit, but can imagine how frustrating it would've been had I not managed to get the stun cycle going early on...
  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,452 Chairperson of the Boards
    areacode212 wrote:
    Worst PvE you've ever done. I can't even be bothered to get T100.

    is it just me or everytime that display pops up in the game of red hulk it reminds me of him getting this thing caught in his zipper icon_e_smile.gif

    PRE GRIND final stage made the token YELLOW KINGPIN

    only 16 people have made it to 65k in my bracket so far
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I am really enjoying this event! Nice and hard, no easy skate, no matter who you use. This is much better than just ho-hum easy clears and mindless grinds.
  • Ouroboros9999
    Ouroboros9999 Posts: 139 Tile Toppler
    Been having pretty good luck on Carnage nodes (even final) with Spiderman, Iron Fist and Gamora. Stunning Carnage with Spidey's blue stun and then working on goon. Deny red and yellow as much as possible, firing IF's purple to blacken things up a bit. Hitting Carnage with supers when he's stunned.

    VERY few people in my bracket are even close to the 65000 for legendary. I think only 5.
  • Rojas66
    Rojas66 Posts: 86 Match Maker
    I'm sitting here at #55 with 58K and just under 2 hours left. So I need to make one last push to get the LT. It does look like they may have made the goal a bit too high.
  • Tatercat
    Tatercat Posts: 930 Critical Contributor
    At least 40 people hit the LT reward in my slice, probably 50 if I had to guess (I was 36 and could only see as far as 40, who had 65027 total).

    I hit the LT reward last night with 8 hours remaining and decided that was enough, I was ok with 1 Eddie Brock cover. I was okay with the Carnage + feeder nodes (though I wish they left Carnage out completely until the final sub. They couldn't top that final node from 3rd sub so they just re-ran it again.)

    Yes, it was brutal and burned health packs but new PVE's should be challenging. And they were doable with the characters they boosted, I was able to do each full clear (one node each time) without going over the 10 health packs, so I don't think that's unfair. (at least for the ones I had, Cage/IF/She-Hulk. If you only had 2*'s , you do have my sympathies).

    So hitting the LT, even if you quit right after like I did, and getting in the top 50 or 100 sounds about right for PVE. And I did get my first Phoenix, a purpleflag.png , so admittedly that might be coloring my opinion right now. That 5* reward felt right for all the holiday effort, coming out of a 7 day event right into this during travel, family, and all the stress that implies.

    (But if I gotten another IW yellowflag.png then MY GOD D3, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? WORST PVE EVER!!!!! SLAP IN OUR FACES!!! etc. etc.)

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