**** Iceman (All New X-Men) ****

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  • I've been afraid of clowns since I was a baby. This ranks a close second.
  • CrookedKnight
    CrookedKnight Posts: 2,579 Chairperson of the Boards
    His purple can convert red special tiles, including countdowns. Use with caution when fielding LCap!
  • I am shocked that we have had one post on this guy since the PVE's finished and people could play him. This guy seems incredible; would expect much discussion!
  • Gowaderacer
    Gowaderacer Posts: 310 Mover and Shaker
    barrok wrote:
    I am shocked that we have had one post on this guy since the PVE's finished and people could play him. This guy seems incredible; would expect much discussion!

    People are afraid to talk about him. Legend says if you say his name out loud 3 times quickly then play a match against him he will reach through the screen and steal your soul. icon_twisted.gif
  • His purple can convert red special tiles, including countdowns. Use with caution when fielding LCap!
    Isn't it fun that you can stun with blue, then use purple and auto match your blue (between two red tiles) and stun again?
  • Whaled ice man. First green cast was aoe 6.8k. He's awesome!
  • VazzVegas wrote:
    20three wrote:
    iceman-puzzle-quest.jpg

    BLAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    icon_lol.gif Hahaha, that "A" pose is epic!


    That A pose is right up there with Cyclops' mutant revolutionary pose ( which I refer to as buns of steel ). Who is the bunsmaster on staff making this happen.. let alone who served as the model for these poses?
  • Jarvind
    Jarvind Posts: 1,684 Chairperson of the Boards
    VazzVegas wrote:
    20three wrote:
    iceman-puzzle-quest.jpg

    BLAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    icon_lol.gif Hahaha, that "A" pose is epic!


    That A pose is right up there with Cyclops' mutant revolutionary pose ( which I refer to as buns of steel ). Who is the bunsmaster on staff making this happen.. let alone who served as the model for these poses?

    I assume they have same personal trainer that Moonstone uses - chick has abs for DAYS.
  • Man,

    I am surprised people aren't talking about this guy more lol. My iceman is only level 160 (boosted into 230's in Mystique's event) and he is so strong.

    I took on 3 jeanbuster/fistbuster teams and Hulkbuster is not a problem. Icemans purple really does a lot of work against hulk buster. Coupled with the stun, which you use on hulkbuster and then Mystique will end up casting her blue and black... so Hulkbuster never gets to fire any of his abilities. 3 matches in a row against those teams and he did not throw a single punch.

    Also, right now I have 2 purple and it seems to work just fine. I could see you going to 3 just cause, but more often than not you aren't using purple to make blue matches, rather you are trying to add more blue to the board for your green to go off. So, the more blue you make the higher the chance of making a match. So for right now I am going to stick with 2 purple unless I open one.

    Oh, and his stun is crazy good.
  • Lopan15
    Lopan15 Posts: 225 Tile Toppler
    I almost got infinite turned to death in pvp. I had loaner ice cyc and IF vs 120ish ice max cyc and KK. Downed everyone but ice and he got a decent cascade and then it was stun, pink, punch, stun, pink, punch, green, stun, pink, punch..... By the time he stopped I had cyc with 11 health left. Luckily I had enough red to down him but it felt like the old mystique infinite turn.
  • I wish my Iceman vault had blue. Would have went for it if so. Reset vault should be like 50HP.
  • Polares
    Polares Posts: 2,643 Chairperson of the Boards
    After playing with him for a while I agree that he is Massively good, IMHB or Jean level good.

    And his best power is blue, 6AP for a 4 turn stun is super good. If blue was just the stun I think he would be OP. As I see it, doing damage makes the ability less OP because you can't stun lock the other team so it makes him 'worse'

    And yeah the other two powers are very good too. Green has probably the best ratio AP/damage


    In fact I am starting to think that maybe 5/5/3 is not the best build, maybe 5/3/5 could be better If you use blue just for the stun and purple to get some blue and fill the board for the green power.
  • simonsez
    simonsez Posts: 4,663 Chairperson of the Boards
    Polares wrote:
    In fact I am starting to think that maybe 5/5/3 is not the best build, maybe 5/3/5 could be better If you use blue just for the stun and purple to get some blue and fill the board for the green power.
    Given that there's currently no damaging blue at all among 4*s, other than Fury Demo, I can't see giving up the damage potential here.
  • spghttihead
    spghttihead Posts: 74 Match Maker
    If there's a good enough sale during anniversary I think I'll be whaling this guy. That stun is just too good!
  • Polares
    Polares Posts: 2,643 Chairperson of the Boards
    simonsez wrote:
    Polares wrote:
    In fact I am starting to think that maybe 5/5/3 is not the best build, maybe 5/3/5 could be better If you use blue just for the stun and purple to get some blue and fill the board for the green power.
    Given that there's currently no damaging blue at all among 4*s, other than Fury Demo, I can't see giving up the damage potential here.

    Yeah that is true. But even more than that, I suppose the big problem is that purple at 5 is not that good (going from 3 to 5 I mean). You steal 1 AP more and get two blue more. Not bad, but not great, so the big difference in damage is not something you should abandon. If at 5 it would create 9+ tiles then things would be different.

    It is curious that there are better AP creators in the 3 land than in the 4. All the 4 that create AP they do somethig else with that ability. When are we going to have a 4 that can place tiles?
  • Don't like his design, but I like his skills! icon_e_geek.gif
  • Polares wrote:
    It is curious that there are better AP creators in the 3 land than in the 4. All the 4 that create AP they do somethig else with that ability. When are we going to have a 4 that can place tiles?
    Like star-lord purpleflag.png?
  • Polares
    Polares Posts: 2,643 Chairperson of the Boards
    ShionSinX wrote:
    Polares wrote:
    It is curious that there are better AP creators in the 3 land than in the 4. All the 4 that create AP they do somethig else with that ability. When are we going to have a 4 that can place tiles?
    Like star-lord purpleflag.png?

    Jejeje well not exactly, he can place a counter but I was thinking someone more in line with 3 bw, KK or the old magneto. Somebody that could place tiles to get match-4 and match-5 to generate a lot of AP.
  • That is a dangerous place to step, we all know it generates infinite combos and it always ends bad for a side (pvp or pve).
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    Re: tile placing powers, I think the devs are avoiding them. They are extremely powerful on offense (and can be abused with prof. X and other infinite combos). Their weakness in defense keeps them from dominating pvp, but they probablynmake things hard to balance overall.

    Re: iceman

    I fought a 5/5/2 lvl 210 in the simulator (strangely didn't see any that high on my way to 1k in icebreaker). He is very intimidating. Blue is like cage's black. Devastating,damage if the ai gets 12 ap. But the 4 turn stun is so much worse than cage's minimal damage. Most dangerous power imo. Purple is a mild irritant unless you need red ap, or the ai gets a lucky cascade from the color swap. Green is a sword of damacles, but is manageable just like kk's or jg's green.