Made Man - August 23 - 26 - Season XVIII

Buret0

I've got a 5/5/0 Vision that I've taken to about 127. That's high enough that he's tanking Blue/Red/Yellow/TU.

As far as my best team:

Vision/Switch/Jeanie.

For the climb I'm not boosting, but if I choose to hop, I'll use a blue/purple +2 AP to get his blue active on a single blue match. I would even consider using those useless +match damage boosts that I never use on Red/Yellow and Blue/Purple, because those are really all you are going to need to match.

Switch bomb loads up the Jean purple AoE for ~12,000 total damage. Vision's blue means that he's doing an extra 1,000+ damage on each match, so the objective is to go after the high Health enemy first and keep them all about even and at about multiples of 4,000.

You'll probably end the match on Jean's second purple, which will take about 8 turns.

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Buret0 wrote:

I've got a 5/5/0 Vision that I've taken to about 127. That's high enough that he's tanking Blue/Red/Yellow/TU.

As far as my best team:

Vision/Switch/Jeanie.

For the climb I'm not boosting, but if I choose to hop, I'll use a blue/purple +2 AP to get his blue active on a single blue match. I would even consider using those useless +match damage boosts that I never use on Red/Yellow and Blue/Purple, because those are really all you are going to need to match.

Switch bomb loads up the Jean purple AoE for ~12,000 total damage. Vision's blue means that he's doing an extra 1,000+ damage on each match, so the objective is to go after the high Health enemy first and keep them all about even and at about multiples of 4,000.

You'll probably end the match on Jean's second purple, which will take about 8 turns.

i wish someone made a 3* version of this post...upvoted

Buret0

raisinbman wrote:

i wish someone made a 3* version of this post...upvoted

Probably use KK since she's boosted instead of Jeanie.

Switch purple -> KK purple -> KK green.

It isn't as strong on D (because the AI isn't going to be smart about KK's purple), so you aren't likely to get many defensive victories or dissuade as many people from attacking you as a Jean would, plus you run the risk of the AI wasting your green on nerfed Hexbolt.

However, it is one more step in the machine and the cascades from KK's purple might allow you to do some extra Vision damage. I don't know if your Vision is going to be high enough level to tank Yellow over a boosted KK.

Edit:

Also, I'm using a 5/5/0 Vision on purpose because I don't want the AI to do the blue/yellow dance, I want my Vision to be tanking and doing the extra 1,000 damage and the AoE attack if he gets enough Red. Preventing the blue/yellow dance isn't as important if you have KK, but I use a 3/5/5 KK to get the most of her battery and nuke, so the healing is negligible and I still think 5/5/0 is the only way to cover Vision.

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Buret0 wrote:

raisinbman wrote:

i wish someone made a 3* version of this post...upvoted

Probably use KK since she's boosted instead of Jeanie.

Switch purple -> KK purple -> KK green.

It isn't as strong on D (because the AI isn't going to be smart about KK's purple), so you aren't likely to get many defensive victories or dissuade as many people from attacking you as a Jean would, plus you run the risk of the AI wasting your green on nerfed Hexbolt.

However, it is one more step in the machine and the cascades from KK's purple might allow you to do some extra Vision damage. I don't know if your Vision is going to be high enough level to tank Yellow over a boosted KK.

Edit:

Also, I'm using a 5/5/0 Vision on purpose because I don't want the AI to do the blue/yellow dance, I want my Vision to be tanking and doing the extra 1,000 damage and the AoE attack if he gets enough Red. Preventing the blue/yellow dance isn't as important if you have KK, but I use a 3/5/5 KK to get the most of her battery and nuke, so the healing is negligible and I still think 5/5/0 is the only way to cover Vision.

I'd use Switch if I could, but she can't even get to 166 and is only 5/4/4

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This event will be horrible for shield hopping, due to the constant animation.

Buret0

raisinbman wrote:

I'd use Switch if I could, but she can't even get to 166 and is only 5/4/4

Yeah, if she's not boosted she needs to at least be at cap and X/X/5. Otherwise she isn't a big enough battery and is going to be downed quickly on D, and will need to be healed too often while climbing.

Hopefully you can pull a switch Blue cover in this week's Deadpool Daily.

Without a usable SW, I can't really offer any great 3* team advice.

Magneto competes with Vision, making Vision a useless loaner for the most part and on D will waste Mags' yellow, red, and blue AP. KK seems like a good bet, no matter how she's built, but she's going to tank yellow. Falcon seems like a waste with that team... no special tiles to boost with his yellow and you are going to be chasing down Vision CD tiles with his blue bird passive. Black Panther is again likely to tank for Vision, so not a lot of help there. I've never had a well built or leveled Punisher, but he's not someone that I was ever scared of in PvP.

That leaves you with unboosted 3*s or boosted 2*s. Neither of the boosted 2*s make sense with Vision, so rule them out.

Wintersmith

I used Iron Fist (166), Luke Cage(166) and Vision (114, 5/4/3+1) to get to 800 point mark, where I got the 13th cover for Vision.
I have never witnessed a climb as easy as that was. After a couple of matches, I noticed that Heavy Density thing with Iron Fist. Couple of blue matches, you start doing +1200 dam per round. And whatever color you happen to get, it'll do damage.

Buret0

Wintersmith wrote:

I used Iron Fist (166), Luke Cage(166) and Vision (114, 5/4/3+1) to get to 800 point mark, where I got the 13th cover for Vision.
I have never witnessed a climb as easy as that was. After a couple of matches, I noticed that Heavy Density thing with Iron Fist. Couple of blue matches, you start doing +1200 dam per round. And whatever color you happen to get, it'll do damage.

I thought they patched that? I always wondered what they were talking about with that last Vision patch about strike tiles... I just assumed it was a mistake and they meant attack tiles.

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Buret0 wrote:

raisinbman wrote:

I'd use Switch if I could, but she can't even get to 166 and is only 5/4/4

Yeah, if she's not boosted she needs to at least be at cap and X/X/5. Otherwise she isn't a big enough battery and is going to be downed quickly on D, and will need to be healed too often while climbing.

Hopefully you can pull a switch Blue cover in this week's Deadpool Daily.

Without a usable SW, I can't really offer any great 3* team advice.

Magneto competes with Vision, making Vision a useless loaner for the most part and on D will waste Mags' yellow, red, and blue AP. KK seems like a good bet, no matter how she's built, but she's going to tank yellow. Falcon seems like a waste with that team... no special tiles to boost with his yellow and you are going to be chasing down Vision CD tiles with his blue bird passive. Black Panther is again likely to tank for Vision, so not a lot of help there. I've never had a well built or leveled Punisher, but he's not someone that I was ever scared of in PvP.

That leaves you with unboosted 3*s or boosted 2*s. Neither of the boosted 2*s make sense with Vision, so rule them out.

funny enough my vault didn't have any SW blue in it, did I open 31 taco tokens and got 10k iso, nice substitute

Wintersmith wrote:

I used Iron Fist (166), Luke Cage(166) and Vision (114, 5/4/3+1) to get to 800 point mark, where I got the 13th cover for Vision.
I have never witnessed a climb as easy as that was. After a couple of matches, I noticed that Heavy Density thing with Iron Fist. Couple of blue matches, you start doing +1200 dam per round. And whatever color you happen to get, it'll do damage.

will vision get fixed? Only THE PHASERHAWK knows!

On a more serious note, sounds like even more reason to do vision/panther/fist - according to forum person that's the fast team for this pvp anyway

Quebbster

I may be imagining things, but it feels like I get hit a lot more than usual this time around. Might be because my Vision isn't fully leveled yet I guess.

Buret0

Quebbster wrote:

I may be imagining things, but it feels like I get hit a lot more than usual this time around. Might be because my Vision isn't fully leveled yet I guess.

There weren't a lot of high value targets when I started my push. If you are floating around unshielded and you are in the top 15% of point values, there's a pretty good chance someone isn't going to skip you (if they are looking just for decent points per attack) and a very good chance that the weaker teams will see a low level Vision and take a shot.

I climbed to 1st place in the last time slot with 545 in one sitting. Shielded because no one else was over 415 and I was just making myself a target for all those retaliations (someone is now sitting shielded at 682 and I'm in fourth, so there should be some targets when I break shield).

Two people tried to retaliate against my JG/SW/Vis team and I won both for some negligible points.

Torga, 547, +12; Scotch0101, 445, +9.

Since I don't see either of those players in the top 10 and the top 10 goes from 682 to 444, they must have gotten hit pretty hard by those that climbed in the last few hours.

Buret0

OJSP wrote:

maybe they're in different brackets? unless, you've seen them before in your leaderboard during your climb, then.. I stand corrected..

Hmmm... I always assumed that the only people you could find in a PvP were the 1,000 people in your leaderboard.

I could be totally wrong about that, but I wouldn't think that there would be fighting between two different leaderboards/slices.

Unless I'm missing something about how the bracket system works?

TazFTW

You'll find people outside your bracket but inside your slice.

dr tinykittylove

Buret0 wrote:

Hmmm... I always assumed that the only people you could find in a PvP were the 1,000 people in your leaderboard.

I could be totally wrong about that, but I wouldn't think that there would be fighting between two different leaderboards/slices.

Unless I'm missing something about how the bracket system works?

There are 500 people in a pvp bracket. You can get matched with anyone in your time slice, any bracket.

And don't waste hp on shields so early in the event! Points lost are negligible when your score is low and you can easily climb back off the retals later. I was boggled to find someone in my bracket shielded at 321 with more than 2 days left.

Buret0

dr tinykittylove wrote:

There are 500 people in a pvp bracket. You can get matched with anyone in your time slice, any bracket.

And don't waste hp on shields so early in the event! Points lost are negligible when your score is low and you can easily climb back off the retals later. I was boggled to find someone in my bracket shielded at 321 with more than 2 days left.

Getting over 150 points higher than the second place person meant that I should have been a pretty high value target.

Now that I know that you can queue up people in other leaderboards, I'm less concerned about shielding just because I'm in first place for my board.

Then again, if a bunch of the retaliations would have won against me, then the economy of the slice would be improved (they gain points, no one loses points). Unfortunately, the only two people who have attacked me lost.

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dr tinykittylove wrote:

Buret0 wrote:

Hmmm... I always assumed that the only people you could find in a PvP were the 1,000 people in your leaderboard.

I could be totally wrong about that, but I wouldn't think that there would be fighting between two different leaderboards/slices.

Unless I'm missing something about how the bracket system works?

There are 500 people in a pvp bracket. You can get matched with anyone in your time slice, any bracket.

And don't waste hp on shields so early in the event! Points lost are negligible when your score is low and you can easily climb back off the retals later. I was boggled to find someone in my bracket shielded at 321 with more than 2 days left.

Retals are still bugged. You have to be online and immediately retaliating or they could be lost when a second defeat comes.

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Splarne wrote:

dr tinykittylove wrote:

Buret0 wrote:

Hmmm... I always assumed that the only people you could find in a PvP were the 1,000 people in your leaderboard.

I could be totally wrong about that, but I wouldn't think that there would be fighting between two different leaderboards/slices.

Unless I'm missing something about how the bracket system works?

There are 500 people in a pvp bracket. You can get matched with anyone in your time slice, any bracket.

And don't waste hp on shields so early in the event! Points lost are negligible when your score is low and you can easily climb back off the retals later. I was boggled to find someone in my bracket shielded at 321 with more than 2 days left.

Retals are still bugged. You have to be online and immediately retaliating or they could be lost when a second defeat comes.

as if retals weren't sucky enough already...

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raisinbman wrote:

HeWantsRevenge wrote:

raisinbman wrote:

So it has come to my attention that I must use the fastest team in order to properly shield hop....can anyone tell me what team that is? The non-4* version.

What teamup to use?

What boost to use?

Thanks

Hulkbomb.

Boost +2 g/b and +2 all colors. Sometimes I also like to boost crit boosts.

Make sure you put Hulk ahead of Patch.

I like hulkbombing but its too risky vs hulkbuster/buffed

No risk, no reward. I'll hulkbomb a Hulkbuster any day of the week. I've hulkbombed 3 Hulkbuster teams in the last 10 mins to jump to a 1st place finish.

I place emphasis on greens/red/blacks because Hulk tanks them most of the time. If there are no matches that would benefit me, I'll match something with Patch or buffed so that Hulk doesn't take unnecessary damage.

Every now and then you catch an unlucky break but sometimes that's the way it is.

I'd show you my hulkbuster success stories but I don't have a stream.

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HeWantsRevenge wrote:

raisinbman wrote:

HeWantsRevenge wrote:

raisinbman wrote:

So it has come to my attention that I must use the fastest team in order to properly shield hop....can anyone tell me what team that is? The non-4* version.

What teamup to use?

What boost to use?

Thanks

Hulkbomb.

Boost +2 g/b and +2 all colors. Sometimes I also like to boost crit boosts.

Make sure you put Hulk ahead of Patch.

I like hulkbombing but its too risky vs hulkbuster/buffed

No risk, no reward. I'll hulkbomb a Hulkbuster any day of the week. I've hulkbombed 3 Hulkbuster teams in the last 10 mins to jump to a 1st place finish.

I place emphasis on greens/red/blacks because Hulk tanks them most of the time. If there are no matches that would benefit me, I'll match something with Patch or buffed so that Hulk doesn't take unnecessary damage.

Every now and then you catch an unlucky break but sometimes that's the way it is.

I'd show you my hulkbuster success stories but I don't have a stream.

risky against boosted mostly

holy **** the iron fist trick works!!!!

Nylarx

It should work with all attack tiles...someone should try Density: Heavy with Storm or Carnage, for science of course.