1000 Points in PVP without Shielding

grunth13

Well, I have almost every 3 star max covered except cyclops is at 9, Deadpool still needs 2 pinks, KK, Mags needs 2 red and 1 blue, bulleye, rags, doc oct, quicksilver. So who should be my 4 heavy hitters be? I also have nick fury with 5 blue and 3 purple.

Turbosmooth

udonomefoo wrote:

I'm not a "vet" in terms of hitting 1000 consistently, but I was doing the exact same thing as you until a few weeks ago. I had everyone I cared about at 125 (about 15 chars) and the rest at 120. I got impatient with taking everyone up by one level at a time and maxed LThor, Cyc, CMags and Fist. It is soooo much easier now. Can't wait until next week when cyc is boosted. I'd highly recommend maxing a few that work well together, but if you aren't sitting on 250k iso like I was, then at least pick a handful and focus on them instead of taking up all 27 together.

Didn't your PvE scale out of wack? Or do you only play PvP?
I scale my top evenly and it's a long process, but I don't want PvE to get any harder than it is. It was worse with Community scaling (level 395 Juggs/Ares), but I can barely handle level 260 Juggs/Ares with 151 team.

Unknown

I have hit 1000 in PvP without shielding many many times. So often in fact I stopped shielding at the end too to save on HPs. Disclaimer: I have a maxed Thor/XF/HB and a ton of maxed 3*s so.. yeah.

It takes about 3 hours in my experience, or maybe 2 hours if you get up to 700 first and get knocked down to about 500.

When you are ready for your epic climb just put your team in, and start grinding away. Try to avoid anything worth less than 30 points, and liberal use of the skip button is required. Especially in the last 8 hours, getting from 0 to 500 is easy with 50+ point matches. So lets call that 10 matches, and 20 30+ matches to reach 1000 (for safety incase you lose some points along the way, I know that's 1100). The goal of your matches should be to not take ability damage. I generally have a 290/270/240 combo going, sometimes 290/240/240 if there is a really good combo.

Don't get upset at losing points, just hit any retaliations that are worth more than 40 and let the others go, it just adds time to your climb it doesn't cost you anything in the end. The main reason people shield and shield hop is the red numbers of negative points make them Hulk Smash Angry.

This method evolved for me by attempting to hit 1000 on 5 health packs plus the 5 that regenerate in 3 hours, which is also totally doable. Now that you have 10+5 taking 0 ability damage is less important but still helpful.

zeeke

You need to max some heavy hitters, there are two benefits to this

1: You can deal damage and actually finish a fight quickly

2: You will get attacked (slightly) less

Good advice in here already I would just add that there are some great teams that can do 1k. Personally I prefer Thora/Loki, I know I'm strange but that team I really enjoy playing. Cyclops boosted is a beast, with IF feeding him black it can go really fast. Same with cage and to some extent BP. KK is also great boosted but you don't really see her when not.

So to sum up, IF and Loki are essential as you can pair them with lots of other heavy damage dealers.

Also remember to don't over think your jump, sustainable play and damage reduction doesn't really matter if you are shield hopping post 1k.

Edit: one more thing, never ever play a match worth less than 38p if you have a weak team, since the retaliation for the other player will be worth 40p+. The safest way to do it is to only play 60-70p matches as most players will skip that retal node for 10

udonomefoo

Turbosmooth wrote:

udonomefoo wrote:

I'm not a "vet" in terms of hitting 1000 consistently, but I was doing the exact same thing as you until a few weeks ago. I had everyone I cared about at 125 (about 15 chars) and the rest at 120. I got impatient with taking everyone up by one level at a time and maxed LThor, Cyc, CMags and Fist. It is soooo much easier now. Can't wait until next week when cyc is boosted. I'd highly recommend maxing a few that work well together, but if you aren't sitting on 250k iso like I was, then at least pick a handful and focus on them instead of taking up all 27 together.

Didn't your PvE scale out of wack? Or do you only play PvP?
I scale my top evenly and it's a long process, but I don't want PvE to get any harder than it is. It was worse with Community scaling (level 395 Juggs/Ares), but I can barely handle level 260 Juggs/Ares with 151 team.

I play both, usually top 50 pve.

I haven't really noticed any difference. Marginal at most. I still used stormneto in some essentials in the event that's ending today with no problems. Over time I anticipate that it will scale up a bit, but there was no big jump in enemy levels. I've been using cyc/fist a lot in pve too, which people say not to do when you only max a couple. :shrug:

jredd

made it over 800 last pvp. my roster is still improving so i imagine with a solid roster it's definitely possible.

Unknown

In the last 2 seasons, I haven't needed to use a shield to hit 1000 in pvp. I get there with my maxed out HB and whichever characters are boosted for that time. I think I have a pretty decent 3* roster so that definitely helps the cause. I will hover around 700+ points and then I'll make my final push with around 3hr 30mins left in the event, so I put my shield with 3 hrs left and call it a day.
Last event though, I was able to go from 100 to 1050 in one push. Took me about 2 hours and it felt like a horrible grind. Won't be doing that again for a while.

Unknown

Yes as long as I can field a 290 240 240 team, boosted characters make a world of difference. The devs have made hitting 1k possible with the changes.

I did it as recent as yesterday in JG PVP with a 133 JG, 240 Torch and 240 Loki. Climbed from 450 to 1000 in an hour.

Phumade

Vhailorx wrote:

I have done it before; it's definitely possible.

If you are just trying to figure out how to get to 1k, I wouldn't worry if you have to use 1 3-hour shield as soon as you get above 900. That makes things much much easier and is still HP-profitable (ie sustainable over the long-run).

People who can do 1000-1100 in one sustained push are really shooting for 1300.

a 3 hr shield after 900 is such a mellow way to enjoy pvp. Its super easy to crack 1K after that (and you get the benefit of selecting your ques and letting your self drop out of everyone else que), its a very sustainable way to play the game.

jackstar0

Did it today with maxed Loki/Torch+Loaner Jean.

Had lost ~200pts overnight (so down to mid-500s), but made a sustained push this morning (when I find things are usually dead) and crossed the 1k and tossed up a shield to ride it out to the end.

I'm trying to average around 1k per PvP and then hopefully get around 2k in the sim to see where that gets me in terms of placement. So far, so good.

Deilinvega

My most "trusted" team in PvP I have is Hulk, for tanking and anger and 3*BW with maxed purple and green + of course featured.

My main stratedy is simple. Put Hulk on the front to genrate green with Anger and mach purple with BW until I get enough for sniper rifle.

With correct timing I can sometimes get to the 800 without shields. Above 800... I can't even made it to 900 without being attacked when I'm fighting so I'm oscilating between 800-900 until I run out of health packs. But I get striked down to 500 or 400 before my health packs regen.

Malcrof

Deilinvega wrote:

My most "trusted" team in PvP I have is Hulk, for tanking and anger and 3*BW with maxed purple and green + of course featured.

My main stratedy is simple. Put Hulk on the front to genrate green with Anger and mach purple with BW until I get enough for sniper rifle.

With correct timing I can sometimes get to the 800 without shields. Above 800... I can't even made it to 900 without being attacked when I'm fighting so I'm oscilating between 800-900 until I run out of health packs. But I get striked down to 500 or 400 before my health packs regen.

Featured is always center. What level is your hulk? mine stopped tanking for GSBW at lvl 141?

Vhailorx

Deilinvega wrote:

My most "trusted" team in PvP I have is Hulk, for tanking and anger and 3*BW with maxed purple and green + of course featured.

My main stratedy is simple. Put Hulk on the front to genrate green with Anger and mach purple with BW until I get enough for sniper rifle.

With correct timing I can sometimes get to the 800 without shields. Above 800... I can't even made it to 900 without being attacked when I'm fighting so I'm oscilating between 800-900 until I run out of health packs. But I get striked down to 500 or 400 before my health packs regen.

I am not surprised that you get slaughtered above 800: hulk/gsbw is a very weak defensive team. They have one good offensive skill between them and it costs 19 ap the ai Will never save up for it.

Is your patch functional? Hulkbombing still invites attacks, but should be fast enough to get you 900 or 1k

Deilinvega

Both Hulk and BW are 166. Hulk has his and maxed while BW has and maxed. All designed to generate for BW

But I can't reach 1000 points since whenever I'm close I'm constantly attacked, faster than I can gather points.

I do have 166 patch with maxed and but he have relaitively little life and and with enemy spamming abilities, he dies in two hits. Also If I try to combine his Berserk with Anger it backfires, since anger will just consume my strike tiles while leave enemy ST functioning (and then inevitable cascade will kill both Patch and Hulk in one turn)

Vhailorx

Deilinvega wrote:

Both Hulk and BW are 166. Hulk has his and maxed while BW has and maxed. All designed to generate for BW

But I can't reach 1000 points since whenever I'm close I'm constantly attacked, faster than I can gather points.

I do have 166 patch with maxed and but he have relaitively little life and and with enemy spamming abilities, he dies in two hits. Also If I try to combine his Berserk with Anger it backfires, since anger will just consume my strike tiles while leave enemy ST functioning (and then inevitable cascade will kill both Patch and Hulk in one turn)

Hulkbombing will definitely work against enemies up until you start seeing 15k+ health. Fire berserker rage and put hulk in front. The aoe damage from anger will drop the enemy in just a few rounds (note: this strategy is health-pack ontemsive)

Without knowing your whole roster, it's hard to give specific advice, but I would be very surprised if you could reliably hit 1k with hulk/gsbw withou spending hundred of hp on shields. That team is so weak defensively. Vets and whales with the I fistbuster teams will just feast on it endlessly.

Deilinvega

I also have a LThor with 3/5/5 that I occasionally put in BW's place. Other semi reliable team I have with Patch and and 4/5/4 Punisher, with Berserk followed by Molotov.

http://i.imgur.com/mdjDpk1.png

These are pretty much strongest chars I have. Next pages are all lvl 94 or below. Hardly viable for PvP

whoami

Apologies if I'm repeating a well-known strategy here, but my technique for achieving the 4* progression (with a full roster of 3*s, but only 10 maxed, and no fully covered 4*s) is to make liberal use of health packs received from DDQ. What I do is reach a 400-500 point equilibrium on the first day of a PVP, have a cache of taco tokens on hand, and then redeem a bunch when I'm ready to make a push. If I can get a 5x health pack or two from DDQ, and have enough iso to use damage or AP boosts, AND if I then push at an off time, then I can usually make it to the low to mid 900s at least without running out of health packs. Sometimes I can make it over the 1000 barrier; if not, I throw up a 3 or 8 hour shield, wait for health packs to recharge, queue up, and one or two fights later I'm done.

I don't bother with the 1300 point progression, but this almost always nets me the 1000 point prize with little to no HP expenditure. Of course it depends who the featured character is (I find that the newly featuered 4*s are particularly easy because no one has them covered or powered up).

So yeah, I know everyone hates the addition of health packs to DDQ, but I'd prefer having those to extra 2*s as they slowly get me to 4* land with relative ease.

Unknown

Haven't hit 1000 because my characters aren't good enough yet but I'm starting to place decently.

From what I've noticed:
Take down the seed teams with characters you won't use the second the event starts then switch to the team you'll be using when the going gets harder.
Try not to hit targets under 40 unless they're freakishly easy.
Skip teams that'll murder your health, even if they have decent points.
If you're in a state where your health isn't high enough to take down 50 point teams, hit an easy team or two then use some health packs.
Pause when you think you can't go higher without getting attacked like crazy.
Climb at the weirdest hours. I went up 200-300 points at 4 am.

Deilinvega

I managed to get 1000 points in last Doctor's Orders.

After I was bombarded from 900 to below 500 I pretty much gave up. Half a day before ending of the event I started to play a single matches out of boredom. By the time there was about three hours till the end, I noticed I climbed back to around 800, using first my Hulk + BW + 5/5/3 Doom and later switching BW for 3/5/5 Thor for additional tankyness. From there I kept using Thor in this team until I got to 900 again. By that time I had no medipacks left, my Doom was wounded and so where Hulk and Thor. I wasn't exactly hoping for victory but I switched to Patch and CStorm. With this team I took on maxed Fist/Doom/Cyclops combo for 50 points. Using Berserk and Storm's I managed to deal some crippling damage to whole team as well as buy time with stun till I dismantled them one after another.

Storm came out unharmed, I healed Patch in Prologue, but Doom was just below half health and no packs. With this team I attacked Fist/Doom/HB for the last 50 points. By combination of the same tactic I blasted Fist and stun HB. But then Doom summoned demons and wiped out my Patch and doom in a few turns. And most likely thanks to sheer dumb luck, Storm's pumped by Berserk managed to take down Doom and seriously damage HB before he came out of stun. After he woke up it was a mad rush to down him before Doom's remaining demons take down my Storm. With barely any life to spare, I managed to win and get to 1000 mark, without any shields or 4* characters.

The fact that most players slept by the time I played and I managed to avoid constant attacks, probably helped.

Before long I was zerg rushed for over 100 points but I wasn't there for placement anyway

Bowgentle

Deilinvega wrote:

The fact that most players slept by the time I played and I managed to avoid constant attacks, probably helped.

With time slices, I think most people will pick an end time where they don't sleep during the final 3 hours.

But congrats to your 1K