The F4 get no love?

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  • djdv81
    djdv81 Posts: 40 Just Dropped In
    The Fantastic 4 get no love because the movie was HORRIBLE. I saw it and the casting is ridiculous and the movie didn't even make sense. The devs must have gotten a full preview of the movie because I would want to distance myself from whoever made this piece of junk. Any person who backs up this movie is severely confused and needs to go get a reality check. I don't even want to read the reviews......
  • Buret0
    Buret0 Posts: 1,591
    djdv81 wrote:
    The Fantastic 4 get no love because the movie was HORRIBLE. I saw it and the casting is ridiculous and the movie didn't even make sense. The devs must have gotten a full preview of the movie because I would want to distance myself from whoever made this piece of junk. Any person who backs up this movie is severely confused and needs to go get a reality check. I don't even want to read the reviews......

    Here's some headlines if you don't want the reviews:

    'Fantastic Four' Has The Worst Rating For A Marvel Movie Since 'Elektra'
    - As of this writing, the 2015 Fantastic Four reboot is sitting at a measly 10 percent Freshness rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
    This is the summer's worst movie
    - A lousy script, unfocused direction, incoherent editing, shockingly terrible special effects — and, probably, panicked studio executives — have left its four talented stars muddling through a dull superhero origin story with zero payoff.
    Here’s the Thing About ‘Fantastic Four’: It’s Pretty Terrible
    - Fantastic Four feels like a 100-minute trailer for a movie that never happens.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Buret0 wrote:
    djdv81 wrote:
    The Fantastic 4 get no love because the movie was HORRIBLE. I saw it and the casting is ridiculous and the movie didn't even make sense. The devs must have gotten a full preview of the movie because I would want to distance myself from whoever made this piece of junk. Any person who backs up this movie is severely confused and needs to go get a reality check. I don't even want to read the reviews......

    Here's some headlines if you don't want the reviews:

    'Fantastic Four' Has The Worst Rating For A Marvel Movie Since 'Elektra'
    - As of this writing, the 2015 Fantastic Four reboot is sitting at a measly 10 percent Freshness rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
    This is the summer's worst movie
    - A lousy script, unfocused direction, incoherent editing, shockingly terrible special effects — and, probably, panicked studio executives — have left its four talented stars muddling through a dull superhero origin story with zero payoff.
    Here’s the Thing About ‘Fantastic Four’: It’s Pretty Terrible
    - Fantastic Four feels like a 100-minute trailer for a movie that never happens.
    no kidding, huh? Well, least they tried something different
  • djdv81
    djdv81 Posts: 40 Just Dropped In
    Buret0 wrote:
    djdv81 wrote:
    The Fantastic 4 get no love because the movie was HORRIBLE. I saw it and the casting is ridiculous and the movie didn't even make sense. The devs must have gotten a full preview of the movie because I would want to distance myself from whoever made this piece of junk. Any person who backs up this movie is severely confused and needs to go get a reality check. I don't even want to read the reviews......

    Here's some headlines if you don't want the reviews:

    'Fantastic Four' Has The Worst Rating For A Marvel Movie Since 'Elektra'
    - As of this writing, the 2015 Fantastic Four reboot is sitting at a measly 10 percent Freshness rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
    This is the summer's worst movie
    - A lousy script, unfocused direction, incoherent editing, shockingly terrible special effects — and, probably, panicked studio executives — have left its four talented stars muddling through a dull superhero origin story with zero payoff.
    Here’s the Thing About ‘Fantastic Four’: It’s Pretty Terrible
    - Fantastic Four feels like a 100-minute trailer for a movie that never happens.

    That pretty much sums it all up Buret0. Save your money for some roster slots or even an ability you all have been waiting on, at least you will get a sense of satisfaction in your purchase. Was this movie shown to Stan Lee? I know Fox still has the rights and I don't know if it matters but this can't happen again with another Marvel themed movie.
  • Marty17
    Marty17 Posts: 503 Critical Contributor
    There was a theory that FOX is just making a F4 movie preventing it revert back to Marvel. That I get, but taking a dump on it & not giving 2 hoots in an attempt to make a good F4 film is just atrocious & unforgiveable. If that's the best they can conceive, they might as well part ways with it rather than tarnishing one of my favourite Marvel teams.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    djdv81 wrote:
    Was this movie shown to Stan Lee? I know Fox still has the rights and I don't know if it matters but this can't happen again with another Marvel themed movie.

    I doubt it was shown to Stan. I read a recent interview where he mentioned that a character that was white is now black and correctly guessed that it was Human Torch, but it was quite clear he wasn't sure whether he had correctly remembered which character it was. I know he's busy and not as young as he was, but surely the film can't leave so little of an impact that Stan himself would forget which character was now black?

    I wonder if Marvel had the business sense to write something into the rights contract to stipulate the film has to have a certain level of success in order for Fox to retain the rights? In retrospect it seems like a necessity of the contract.
  • Square
    Square Posts: 380 Mover and Shaker
    Trank has made one great, self-run film, Chronicle, and has now disowned this film: http://www.avclub.com/article/josh-tran ... d-h-223515

    I have utter sympathy for him. He's under 30, without the clout to push for his vision, and Fox seems to have 'managed' the film into a bland pile of nothing. I've read he's suffering a nervous breakdown, and that seems to be a perfectly human reaction to being thrust into the spotlight as the guiding vision of a mediocre film. Once those contracts are signed, it's hard to get away.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Marty17 wrote:
    There was a theory that FOX is just making a F4 movie preventing it revert back to Marvel. That I get, but taking a dump on it & not giving 2 hoots in an attempt to make a good F4 film is just atrocious & unforgiveable. If that's the best they can conceive, they might as well part ways with it rather than tarnishing one of my favourite Marvel teams.
    why care about quality when you can spite your enemies?
    Grantosium wrote:
    djdv81 wrote:
    Was this movie shown to Stan Lee? I know Fox still has the rights and I don't know if it matters but this can't happen again with another Marvel themed movie.

    I doubt it was shown to Stan. I read a recent interview where he mentioned that a character that was white is now black and correctly guessed that it was Human Torch, but it was quite clear he wasn't sure whether he had correctly remembered which character it was. I know he's busy and not as young as he was, but surely the film can't leave so little of an impact that Stan himself would forget which character was now black?

    I wonder if Marvel had the business sense to write something into the rights contract to stipulate the film has to have a certain level of success in order for Fox to retain the rights? In retrospect it seems like a necessity of the contract.

    it depends what u consider success, look at micheal bay
  • evil panda
    evil panda Posts: 419 Mover and Shaker
    So...this is going to be the superhero movie equivalent of bag man?
  • Chrono_Tata
    Chrono_Tata Posts: 719 Critical Contributor
    Grantosium wrote:
    djdv81 wrote:
    Was this movie shown to Stan Lee? I know Fox still has the rights and I don't know if it matters but this can't happen again with another Marvel themed movie.

    I doubt it was shown to Stan. I read a recent interview where he mentioned that a character that was white is now black and correctly guessed that it was Human Torch, but it was quite clear he wasn't sure whether he had correctly remembered which character it was. I know he's busy and not as young as he was, but surely the film can't leave so little of an impact that Stan himself would forget which character was now black?

    I wonder if Marvel had the business sense to write something into the rights contract to stipulate the film has to have a certain level of success in order for Fox to retain the rights? In retrospect it seems like a necessity of the contract.
    I read in a review that Stan didn't even appear in a cameo in the movie. I don't remember the last time Stan Lee didn't appear in a cameo for a Marvel movie.
  • Chrono_Tata
    Chrono_Tata Posts: 719 Critical Contributor
    aesthetocyst wrote:
    Chrono_Tata wrote:
    Grantosium wrote:
    djdv81 wrote:
    Was this movie shown to Stan Lee? I know Fox still has the rights and I don't know if it matters but this can't happen again with another Marvel themed movie.

    I doubt it was shown to Stan. I read a recent interview where he mentioned that a character that was white is now black and correctly guessed that it was Human Torch, but it was quite clear he wasn't sure whether he had correctly remembered which character it was. I know he's busy and not as young as he was, but surely the film can't leave so little of an impact that Stan himself would forget which character was now black?

    I wonder if Marvel had the business sense to write something into the rights contract to stipulate the film has to have a certain level of success in order for Fox to retain the rights? In retrospect it seems like a necessity of the contract.
    I read in a review that Stan didn't even appear in a cameo in the movie. I don't remember the last time Stan Lee didn't appear in a cameo for a Marvel movie.

    He appears in Marvel Studios movies.

    This is not one of those.

    Woefully, painfully, obviously, not one of those:
    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fantastic_four_2015/

    Marvel Studios, the direct heir to the creative legacy behind the Marvel universe, can make a decent flick out of even the Ant-Man premise. If If 20th Century Fox had ANY regard for this property, they'd give it back to its rightful owners.
    Stan made cameos in all the Spider-Man movies including the Toby McGuire ones and the Andrew Garfield ones. He also appeared in the last 2 Fantastic Four movies.
  • wade66
    wade66 Posts: 212 Tile Toppler
    Just remember though, he only cameoed in them all pre MCU. Since then it was only the spider-man movies he appeared in.
  • Unknown
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    I blame the ff4 movie failing on the xdp event.

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  • Marty17
    Marty17 Posts: 503 Critical Contributor
    Stan Lee didn't appear in X-Men Days of Future Past.

    My favourite cameo was in Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. Just like the classic comic, he failed to get into the wedding ceremony of Reed & Sue.
  • optimus2861
    optimus2861 Posts: 1,233 Chairperson of the Boards
    wade66 wrote:
    Just remember though, he only cameoed in them all pre MCU. Since then it was only the spider-man movies he appeared in.
    Stan definitely cameo'd in Captain America & both Avengers films that I can remember off the top of my head. He was also at the very beginning of Incredible Hulk. I can't remember exactly when he appeared in the IM flicks but he must have.
  • Marty17
    Marty17 Posts: 503 Critical Contributor
    X-Men (2000) - Hotdog vendor at beach

    Spider-Man (2002) - Pulls girl from falling (balcony) debris

    Daredevil (2003) - Saved by young Matt from crossing to incoming traffic

    Hulk (2003) - Security guard leaving Bruce's lab

    Spider-Man 2 (2004) - Pulls a woman from falling debris after Doc Ock's bank robbery

    Fantastic Four (2005) - Mailman

    X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) - A neighbour hosing his garden until young Jean causes confusion

    Spider-Man 3 (2007) - Telling Peter that one man does make a difference

    Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007) - Got rejected from Reed & Sue's wedding ceremony

    Iron Man (2008) - Tony mistaken him as Hugh Hefner

    The Incredible Hulk (2008) - Drank a contaminated bottle

    Iron Man 2 (2010) - Tony mistaken him for Larry King

    Thor (2011) - The truck driver that's trying to pull Mjolnir out of the crater

    Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) - A general mistaken a messenger as Steve

    The Avengers (2012) - A chess player being interviewed about heroes in NY

    The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) - Librarian

    Iron Man 3 (2013) - Beauty pageant judge

    Thor: The Dark World (2013) - Patient at mental ward

    Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) - Smithsonian security guard

    The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) - Man at graduation spotting Peter as Spider-Man

    Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) - Rocket mocks him as an old ladies man

    The Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) - Drunk guest at party

    Ant-Man (2015) - Barman
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    optimus2861 wrote:
    wade66 wrote:
    Just remember though, he only cameoed in them all pre MCU. Since then it was only the spider-man movies he appeared in.
    Stan definitely cameo'd in Captain America & both Avengers films that I can remember off the top of my head. He was also at the very beginning of Incredible Hulk. I can't remember exactly when he appeared in the IM flicks but he must have.
    its in his contract with marvel to appear in movies...not sure about sony but I'm sure it's similar
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I am sure we will see some more ff related covers in the future but yea no need to promote the movie it's awful. I am just waiting for Spider-Man to get some real love as to date he ain't got that.
  • wymtime
    wymtime Posts: 3,762 Chairperson of the Boards
    raisinbman wrote:
    optimus2861 wrote:
    wade66 wrote:
    Just remember though, he only cameoed in them all pre MCU. Since then it was only the spider-man movies he appeared in.
    Stan definitely cameo'd in Captain America & both Avengers films that I can remember off the top of my head. He was also at the very beginning of Incredible Hulk. I can't remember exactly when he appeared in the IM flicks but he must have.
    its in his contract with marvel to appear in movies...not sure about sony but I'm sure it's similar
    In the Deadpool Movie Stan Lee will be the DJ at the strip club.
  • Dragon_Nexus
    Dragon_Nexus Posts: 3,701 Chairperson of the Boards
    Marty17 wrote:
    There was a theory that FOX is just making a F4 movie preventing it revert back to Marvel. That I get, but taking a dump on it & not giving 2 hoots in an attempt to make a good F4 film is just atrocious & unforgiveable. If that's the best they can conceive, they might as well part ways with it rather than tarnishing one of my favourite Marvel teams.

    Theory nothing, it's exactly why they made it.
    In the 90s Roger Corman made a fantastic four movie without being told it was never meant for release, it was made simply to keep the rights. It wasn't especially good but it was way more faithful to the source material than anything that followed.

    In 2005 they made that Fantastic Four two-movie set. First one did okay so they made the sequel...which did not do okay. Again, they made the first one simply to hold onto the rights.

    And now in 2015 they do it again to hold onto the movie rights. So on the plus side this movie did SO badly we won't have to suffer another one until 2025!

    Amazing Spider Man was also a cheaply made movie simply to keep the Spider Man rights. So was X-men First Class.

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