babinro wrote: Caltrops. There is absolutely NO in game counter for this kind of ability.
babinro wrote: Caltrops. There is absolutely NO in game counter for this kind of ability. My personal scaling is at a point where trying to bring in **mags as a support engine for LCAP will often lead to his death from this ability alone. Twice in this PvE my luck was so bad that Caltrops even downed LCap before he could get red or blue online without actually taking a hit from any match damage or CD tile ability. This ability has no puzzle element to it or skill associated with it. Until we get a character who can spot or disable traps I think it's best this skill mark the tiles.
j12601 wrote: Swarm. Pretty much all of the sentry abilities, but swarm is the most obnoxious. Since the poll did not include that, I'd maybe go with caltrops, but turn to smoke is a bother as well.
Chrono_Tata wrote: I'm not sure if Ultron sentries even technically count as goons, since they take turns and don't automatically generate AP. I think they are just non-playable characters like Ultron himself, Gorgon and old Devil Dinosaur.
raisinbman wrote: Chrono_Tata wrote: I'm not sure if Ultron sentries even technically count as goons, since they take turns and don't automatically generate AP. I think they are just non-playable characters like Ultron himself, Gorgon and old Devil Dinosaur. they're goons
Malcrof wrote: raisinbman wrote: Chrono_Tata wrote: I'm not sure if Ultron sentries even technically count as goons, since they take turns and don't automatically generate AP. I think they are just non-playable characters like Ultron himself, Gorgon and old Devil Dinosaur. they're goons The reason i didn't include them, is the same reason i didn't include Gorgon, who is technically just an uber goon. They don't feel like goons. They move the board and have passives instead of CD tiles or active abilities... This was more for run of the mill PVE goons, not special event peeps or uber goons.. or i would have to have included Ultron and Ultron Prime
raisinbman wrote: Malcrof wrote: raisinbman wrote: Chrono_Tata wrote: I'm not sure if Ultron sentries even technically count as goons, since they take turns and don't automatically generate AP. I think they are just non-playable characters like Ultron himself, Gorgon and old Devil Dinosaur. they're goons The reason i didn't include them, is the same reason i didn't include Gorgon, who is technically just an uber goon. They don't feel like goons. They move the board and have passives instead of CD tiles or active abilities... This was more for run of the mill PVE goons, not special event peeps or uber goons.. or i would have to have included Ultron and Ultron Prime gorgon is an NPC boss, easily could be made playable like devil dino....why dont u kids remember beat em ups....just because ultron goons are tough doesn't give them boss status
Malcrof wrote: gorgon is an NPC boss, easily could be made playable like devil dino....why dont u kids remember beat em ups....just because ultron goons are tough doesn't give them boss status
El Satanno wrote: Malcrof wrote: raisinbman wrote: Chrono_Tata wrote: I'm not sure if Ultron sentries even technically count as goons, since they take turns and don't automatically generate AP. I think they are just non-playable characters like Ultron himself, Gorgon and old Devil Dinosaur. they're goons The reason i didn't include them, is the same reason i didn't include Gorgon, who is technically just an uber goon. They don't feel like goons. They move the board and have passives instead of CD tiles or active abilities... This was more for run of the mill PVE goons, not special event peeps or uber goons.. or i would have to have included Ultron and Ultron Prime I'd say Chrono Tata is right. I say goons are such because they generate AP and do not move the board. Ultron sentries are not goons, nor are Ultron or Gorgon themselves goons. NPC =/= Goon.
raisinbman wrote: goons work under a boss and have no chance at becoming playable
Chrono_Tata wrote: raisinbman wrote: goons work under a boss and have no chance at becoming playable That's a pretty subjective definition. How do you know if so-and-so character have no chance at becoming playable? How do you define "working under a boss"? Goon nodes work perfectly well without needing a "boss" character present. A Maggia Don is a mob boss but he's clearly a goon.
raisinbman wrote: Chrono_Tata wrote: raisinbman wrote: goons work under a boss and have no chance at becoming playable That's a pretty subjective definition. How do you know if so-and-so character have no chance at becoming playable? How do you define "working under a boss"? Goon nodes work perfectly well without needing a "boss" character present. A Maggia Don is a mob boss but he's clearly a goon. maggia don doesn't have a name so he's a goon its not a subjective definition, it's video game logic, ah....... memories of beat 'em ups..... memories of mmos.... PS here's another hint: Gorgon has a cover, Ultron Prime has a cover, do goons have covers?