Celerity wrote: As someone who played on the Magic pro tour for years, I don't really agree. I thought the same as you when I just watched other people playing the game, dismissed it as casual, etc. but once I started playing, I realized there are tons of little decisions you need to be making, and the fact that you see a good portion of your deck each game leads to consistent winrates. Right now I'm still adjusting to Heartstone, and with most of my losses, I can look back and realize I would've given myself a better chance by sequencing differently. Magic is a little more complicated than Hearthstone, but in the grand spectrum, it's still one of the most luck-determined CCGs, and most games are over quickly with no difficult decisions.
justaplayer wrote: I played when it first came out I would imagine they were considered beta cards.
Chimaera wrote: Celerity wrote: As someone who played on the Magic pro tour for years, I don't really agree. I thought the same as you when I just watched other people playing the game, dismissed it as casual, etc. but once I started playing, I realized there are tons of little decisions you need to be making, and the fact that you see a good portion of your deck each game leads to consistent winrates. Right now I'm still adjusting to Heartstone, and with most of my losses, I can look back and realize I would've given myself a better chance by sequencing differently. Magic is a little more complicated than Hearthstone, but in the grand spectrum, it's still one of the most luck-determined CCGs, and most games are over quickly with no difficult decisions. Are you a larger name player from the PT I may recognize or just someone who has played in the past? I have qualified for several Nationals in the past but nothing special. I am watching a MTG pro streaming right now and most of the opinions I have stated are his own and the other pro's I see posted on twitter echo those. It was something along the lines of "why do I feel bored even when I am winning". But hey if you get enjoyment from it great, I just see nothing but positive comments in regards to Hearthstone and just wanted to highlight a couple downsides nobody seems to mention.
Chimaera wrote: It was something along the lines of "why do I feel bored even when I am winning".
Chimaera wrote: justaplayer wrote: I played when it first came out I would imagine they were considered beta cards. Beta is black border and you are probably sitting on quite a bit of surprise cash, if you have the right cards.
Chimaera wrote: Ah no sorry, I only started to watch streaming after I got my smartphone a few years ago, generally only watch Michael Jacob. I used to watch Reynad before his attitude slowly got worse and they he got banned for cheating in a PTQ, and now streams Hearthstone with 10k viewers apparently hah. I wonder if he has a personality yet.
Celerity wrote: I carried Mike Jacob to his first Pro Tour (it was a team PT). He's a great player. Reynad is tinykitty. Anyway, one thing I wanted to mention is that Magic definitely rewards adaptability much more than Hearthstone. With the limited card pool and only one draft format, most decks are kind of same-y, and you don't have to adjust your decisionmaking much. But it's still a very new game.
TheUnwiseOne wrote: Well I have come back from playing Hearthstone for a couple hours. So far so good. Might just have found a replacement for Marvel Nerfing Quest
eidehua wrote: Finished an arena run and got a epic+ legendary from the pack (Blood knight and illidan). Opened up another arena run as rouge and got an ysera lmfao Need more luck with MPQ though
Microtom wrote: Can't believe no one mentioned Might and Magic, duel of champions. It's a free card game which is really good, I like it more than magic because it doesn't have the frustration of lands screws and floods, and it has strategic elements magic doesn't have such as positioning. It's really a great game. There's so much greed behind magic, and this game is on pair with it in therms of quality, and it's all free. Also, just like magic, they release new sets and expansions occasional, and this weekend is going to be an announcement for the second base set: http://www.reddit.com/r/duelofchampions ... this_week/
Phantron wrote: Microtom wrote: Can't believe no one mentioned Might and Magic, duel of champions. It's a free card game which is really good, I like it more than magic because it doesn't have the frustration of lands screws and floods, and it has strategic elements magic doesn't have such as positioning. It's really a great game. There's so much greed behind magic, and this game is on pair with it in therms of quality, and it's all free. Also, just like magic, they release new sets and expansions occasional, and this weekend is going to be an announcement for the second base set: http://www.reddit.com/r/duelofchampions ... this_week/ Well it's on Steam, so it's probably going to be relatively cheap to play as long as you catch one of those mega sales.