How are characters arranged on the roster?

jojeda654

ShionSinX wrote:

- level
- rarity
- total covers
- alphabetical order

In that case, KP should trump the other 2*s. (Same level, 4*>2*)

san-mpq wrote:

LEVEL
COVERS
RARITY (NUMBER OF STARS)
ALPHABETICALLY

In this case, Cyclops should go before Ragnarok. (Same level, 11 covers each, Same Rarity, C > R)

Malcrof

jojeda654 wrote:

ShionSinX wrote:

- level
- rarity
- total covers
- alphabetical order

In that case, KP should trump the other 2*s. (Same level, 4*>2*)

san-mpq wrote:

LEVEL
COVERS
RARITY (NUMBER OF STARS)
ALPHABETICALLY

In this case, Cyclops should go before Ragnarok. (Same level, 11 covers each, Same Rarity, C > R)

Rags has 5/5/X Cyc has less, maybe it goes by cover number order for number of covers instead of overall covers?

MarvelMan

Looks to me, based on jojedas examples, that there is a sub filter on covers that loosely looks at level cap.

So maybe:
LEVEL
COVERS
-> level cap
RARITY (NUMBER OF STARS)
ALPHABETICALLY

jojeda654

Malcrof wrote:

Rags has 5/5/X Cyc has less, maybe it goes by cover number order for number of covers instead of overall covers?

In that same screenshot, Spidey is 3/5/5 and SG is 4/5/4. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, wouldn't SG go first?

But yeah there's something about the order of the covers. It changes the Level Max. Rags is 142, Cyc is 140.

MarvelMan wrote:

Looks to me, based on jojedas examples, that there is a sub filter on covers that loosely looks at level cap.

So maybe:
LEVEL
COVERS
-> level cap
RARITY (NUMBER OF STARS)
ALPHABETICALLY

I haven't tested the XP theory, but this is probably the best match we've gotten so far. My only issue with it is that the Number of Powers and Level Max sorting sort of (heh.) make the rarity check redundant. There's no way a lower rarity character will have the same Level Max without having more covers.

ProfessorGumby

The sort that has always worked for me on my spreadsheet is:
Level
# Covers
Level Max
Name

StevO-J

Might be unnecessary, but the first two ability covers don't raise the cap by the same amount as the 3rd, 4th and 5th. Found on the wiki: http://marvelpuzzlequest.wikia.com/wiki/Critical_levels

StevO-J

StevO-J wrote:

Might be unnecessary, but the first two ability covers don't raise the cap by the same amount as the 3rd, 4th and 5th. Found on the wiki: http://marvelpuzzlequest.wikia.com/wiki/Critical_levels

So a different cap for same amount of covers is possible.

Edit: Ehm... yeah, sorry for the double post. Meant to edit, but 'something went awry'

DukeUpdate

For the spreadsheet that PriceCzech made available here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7725#p204650

It works if you sort by:

1. Column D (Level) High-->Low
2. Column N (Level Max) High-->Low
3. Column B (Name) A-> Z

It has always matched up perfectly with my characters, except that the game sorts with "The" as a part of the name, so "The Hulk" is alphabetically after Iron Fist.

Hayek

san-mpq wrote:

LEVEL
COVERS
RARITY (NUMBER OF STARS)
ALPHABETICALLY

So, a level 166 Luke Cage with 13 covers would go before a level 166 Kingpin with less covers than that...

If all things are equal, than alphabet...

This is exactly how it's sorted for me. By level first, then covers - not rarity. I moved all my non-maxed 3 and 4 to level 95 so I wouldn't have to scroll past my 2 characters to find them (also because at level 95, 3 characters become 166 when featured in PvP). This caused all the 4 to be placed after the 3 because they had less covers. Consequently, I moved the 4 to 96. Now everything is tidy.

DFiPL

Wow, some solid discussion since I went to bed. Lemme catch up.

jojeda654 wrote:

DFiPL wrote:

firethorne wrote:

I think it is level, then number of stars (this includes a difference between "gold" three stars and "rare" three stars), then alphabetically.

The problem is that the alphabetical sorting rule works for Panther/Punisher but it doesn't work to explain Colossus being between Magneto and Luke Cage. They have the same levels and same number of covers, which I'd think would trigger A-Z sorting, but it isn't doing so.

What are their builds?

Magneto is 4/4/1, Colossus is 2/5/5, Luke Cage is 5/2/2.

ShionSinX wrote:

If magneto is lv117 he will obviously come before the colossus and luke as they are 114. Because C comes before L colossus is between magneto and luke. If they were all same level then the number of covers would take place and if they all have same level AND same number of covers, then alphabetically.

As far as I can tell the filters are, in order:

- level
- rarity
- total covers
- alphabetical order

So even with 3 covers a lv94 carnage will be ahead of a 3* fully covered at same level, and both ahead a 2* also fully covered lv94. At first I used to leave my 3* I used most on lv95 so it was easier to pick them and leave the rest at 94.

Magneto is 104 in terms of actual trained levels. His soft cap is at 117 compared with the other two at 104. Are you thinking the game sorts both on trained levels *and* on the soft cap?

Malcrof wrote:

Damage has to have something to do with it... my 154 Thor is sorted before my 154 Doom.

My 104 Thor is listed last among the 10-covers I have, as he should be if alphabetical means anything.

GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

When they made the Iso shift, everyone was given next level-1 Iso. Is Punisher sitting at 102 + 458ISO and Panther not?

Nope. My 3* roster has covered (no pun intended) a lot of ground since then, gaining covers and, more recently, levels to bring them all up to 104. Nobody has partial levels at this point. They're either 104 or they're not.

Malcrof wrote:

Rags has 5/5/X Cyc has less, maybe it goes by cover number order for number of covers instead of overall covers?

I just took another look at my 104s, and Bullseye, Iron Fist and Magneto all have a soft cap of 117 and are listed alphabetically, so cover number order doesn't appear to be affecting them (Bullseye is 3/1/5, Fist is 1/4/4, Magneto is 4/4/1).

Anyway, I'm pleased to see this much discussion. I feel like I'm closer to nailing it down now with this additional input than I was this morning.

Cymmina

The correct answer:

• Level descending
• Level Cap Index descending
• Rarity descending (4 -> 3 -> 2 -> 1)
• Name ascending

Now what is "Level Cap Index"? If you look at all of the level caps, there are 25 distinct breakpoints (the exact level depends on the rarity, of course). If the "index" goes from 0 to 24, then 5/4/3, 4/4/4, 5/5/2 all have an index of 23 while 5/4/4 and 5/5/3 have an index of 24. This is why a max covered 3* sorts ahead of a max covered 2* of the same level, but a 3* with only 12 covers sorts behind a max covered 2* of the same level.

cyineedsn

Yikes I didn't realize there was so much to this. I always just assumed it was:

- level
- whichever hero has been in my roster longer sorts first





Edited for clarification

SnakesArrows

Interesting discussion. What would be nice is if the game let us sort the characters as we like or at least have some choice on sort options.

Kelbris

It's by level, and then:

Star rating

alphabetical if max level (270/166/94)

If not max level, it's by the last cover to reach that level: if Doom is 105, and you then level Hulk to 105, Hulk will be before Doom

Unknown

Remember that Punisher, Hood, and Hulk are actually named "The Punisher" and "The Hood" and "The Hulk" so they are in the Ts. Just checked my roster and all my 166s are alphabetical.

Black Panther
Blade
Captain America
Cyclops
Daken
Deadpool
Doctor Doom
Iron Fist
Kamala Khan
Loki
Luke Cage
Magneto
Psylocke
Rocket and Groot
Sentry
The Hood
The Hulk
The Punisher
Thor
Wolverine

Cymmina

Kelbris wrote:

It's by level, and then:

Star rating

alphabetical if max level (270/166/94)

If not max level, it's by the last cover to reach that level: if Doom is 105, and you then level Hulk to 105, Hulk will be before Doom

No, it's not. I already posted the correct answer.

Top of my roster now
Top of my roster from a month ago

Don't bother coming back and saying that it's cover count, either.

Scarlet Witch (8 covers) ahead of Cyclops (8 covers)

edit: whoops, messed up the links

Unknown

I remember perfectly when I had a 121 lv94 XF and he was ahead of all my 2*s lv94. So it is the max possible level instead of cover count (but this depends on how many of said covers you have as two of same give a higher cap than two different ones). That's why I though the cover was the criteria.

TLCstormz

For my roster, it seems that COVERS play the biggest part, after levels.

Unknown

Ha, had it wrong.

TLCstormz wrote:

For my roster, it seems that COVERS play the biggest part, after levels.

Cymina has it right. It's Level Cap Index descending, not specifically covers.

A 551 will always be before a 442 at the same level.

Unfortunately, iso invested doesn't seem to affect sorting.

Kolence

Iso invested (or "experience points") might come into play when dealing with duplicates or in other words when all else is identical. I'm not 100% sure, but I think I had both a 535 and a 553 Storm at level 92 before the change to leveling costs, and the 553 one was ahead. Then I leveled the 535 one some more to level 102 before the change, and after the change, brought the other one to the same level. But this time the 535 was ahead, possibly because she needed less iso to reach the next level (just one).
So, if I'm remembering well, there should be two more conditions:
5th - iso invested
6th - covers order

EDIT

I was wrong. Adding some iso without leveling up changes nothing. Looks like, with duplicates, it only matters which one is leveled first. Here are the pictures: