How are characters arranged on the roster?

DFiPL

Like, I know the first order of precedence is character level. My Lv94s 2* appear to be arranged alphabetically, but my Lv104 3* are all over the place.

I thought it might be number of covers, with Captain America coming before Spider-Man (my two 12-cover 3*), and my 10-cover 3's following that pattern also. But then I see Colossus and his nine covers chilling between Magneto (nine covers) and Luke Cage (nine covers), and Punisher (Lv102, 8 covers) coming after Black Panther (Lv102, 7 covers).

I looked at Colossus, Luke Cage and Magneto, and Magneto's soft cap is Lv117, where both Colossus and Luke Cage have soft caps of 114, so I figure THAT'S a sorting mechanism of some kind, but the aforementioned Punisher and Panther both have soft caps of 102, and are both AT 102.

Every theory I can come up with for how the game is sorting people works fine up until I hit Punisher and Black Panther. They're breaking my model and I can't figure out why.

Jathro

Alphabetically

DFiPL

Jathro wrote:

Alphabetically

If you actually read my post and not just the title, you might realize that, no, it doesn't work that way uniformly, and I'm seeking input as to what might be causing that difference.

I mean, unless the alphabet was shuffled so that C comes after M now, in which case, hey.

firethorne

I think it is level, then number of stars (this includes a difference between "gold" three stars and "rare" three stars), then alphabetically.

DFiPL

firethorne wrote:

I think it is level, then number of stars (this includes a difference between "gold" three stars and "rare" three stars), then alphabetically.

The problem is that the alphabetical sorting rule works for Panther/Punisher but it doesn't work to explain Colossus being between Magneto and Luke Cage. They have the same levels and same number of covers, which I'd think would trigger A-Z sorting, but it isn't doing so.

jojeda654

DFiPL wrote:

firethorne wrote:

I think it is level, then number of stars (this includes a difference between "gold" three stars and "rare" three stars), then alphabetically.

The problem is that the alphabetical sorting rule works for Panther/Punisher but it doesn't work to explain Colossus being between Magneto and Luke Cage. They have the same levels and same number of covers, which I'd think would trigger A-Z sorting, but it isn't doing so.

What are their builds?

Unknown

If magneto is lv117 he will obviously come before the colossus and luke as they are 114. Because C comes before L colossus is between magneto and luke. If they were all same level then the number of covers would take place and if they all have same level AND same number of covers, then alphabetically.

As far as I can tell the filters are, in order:

- level
- rarity
- total covers
- alphabetical order

So even with 3 covers a lv94 carnage will be ahead of a 3* fully covered at same level, and both ahead a 2* also fully covered lv94. At first I used to leave my 3* I used most on lv95 so it was easier to pick them and leave the rest at 94.

Ebolamonkey84

ShionSinX wrote:

If magneto is lv117 he will obviously come before the colossus and luke as they are 114. Because C comes before L colossus is between magneto and luke. If they were all same level then the number of covers would take place and if they all have same level AND same number of covers, then alphabetically.

As far as I can tell the filters are, in order:

- level
- rarity
- total covers
- alphabetical order

So even with 3 covers a lv94 carnage will be ahead of a 3* fully covered at same level, and both ahead a 2* also fully covered lv94. At first I used to leave my 3* I used most on lv95 so it was easier to pick them and leave the rest at 94.

That last statement is not true. My 1/2/1 level 94 Kingpin is sorted after my 7 maxed 2*s. I always assumed it was level, number of covers, then alphabetical, but your BP Pun example messes that up. Your soft cap idea sounded possible, but my level 120s doesn't support it. Here is the order they appear for me in character - covers - soft cap:
Beast - 13 - 166
Captain Marvel - 13 - 166
Colossus - 13 - 166
Doc Ock - 13 - 166
Psylocke - 13 - 166
Quicksilver - 13 - 166
Rags - 13 - 166
Devil Dino - 12 - 250
IM40 - 12 - 153
Bullseye - 11 - 142
Vision - 11 - 140
Star-Lord - 10 - 209
Elektra - 7 - 152
Carnage - 6 - 131
Prof X - 6 - 131

Dino, SL, and Elektra ruin the soft cap theory.

Malcrof

Damage has to have something to do with it... my 154 Thor is sorted before my 154 Doom.

StevO-J

ShionSinX wrote:

As far as I can tell the filters are, in order:

- level
- rarity
- total covers
- alphabetical order

I thought that this was almost correct but in stead of total covers they are sorted on highest possible level (Level Max if you look in your Roster and tap on a character). I can't say for sure though, it seems to hold for my own roster in any case, but of course I could be wrong.

firethorne

Malcrof wrote:

Damage has to have something to do with it... my 154 Thor is sorted before my 154 Doom.

Doom is


Thor is


Level, then rarity, (edit: then possibly cover count, don't have that situation to confirm) then name.


Also good to note, it doesn't ignore "The.". "The Hood," "The Punisher" and "The Hulk" are in the T's.

Malcrof

firethorne wrote:

Malcrof wrote:

Damage has to have something to do with it... my 154 Thor is sorted before my 154 Doom.

Doom is


Thor is


Level, then rarity, (edit: then possibly cover count, don't have that situation to confirm) then name.

never once noticed that before. wonder why they are different?

Gowaderacer

Malcrof wrote:

firethorne wrote:

Malcrof wrote:

Damage has to have something to do with it... my 154 Thor is sorted before my 154 Doom.

Doom is


Thor is


Level, then rarity, (edit: then possibly cover count, don't have that situation to confirm) then name.

never once noticed that before. wonder why they are different?

Rare characters are just regular new 3* characters that are released and gold characters are "lazy" characters that are almost identical to their 1* or 2* versions just with a different skin and higher level.

The last gold we got was Mohawk Storm and it looks like they may be done with the "lazy" characters since 3* Bullseye was an almost completely different build except for his green.

jojeda654

Malcrof wrote:

Damage has to have something to do with it... my 154 Thor is sorted before my 154 Doom.

Not when I view it from my Android device. Are you on Steam?

firethorne

Malcrof wrote:

firethorne wrote:

Malcrof wrote:

Damage has to have something to do with it... my 154 Thor is sorted before my 154 Doom.

Doom is


Thor is


Level, then rarity, (edit: then possibly cover count, don't have that situation to confirm) then name.

never once noticed that before. wonder why they are different?

I think golds have the same skills as a 1 or 2 star counterparts (2* Thor, 2* Cap, 2* Daken, 1* Storm). Rares can be the same character, but have different skill (2* Black Widow has no sniper rifle, for example).

jojeda654

Gold shouldn't be distinct from Rare, otherwise they'd be segregated. Out of the 4 golds, I've only maxed out Cap, Daken, and Thor. Cap and Daken are between Blade and Deadpool, while Thor is between Punisher and Wolverine.

firethorne

jojeda654 wrote:

Gold shouldn't be distinct from Rare, otherwise they'd be segregated. Out of the 4 golds, I've only maxed out Cap, Daken, and Thor. Cap and Daken are between Blade and Deadpool, while Thor is between Punisher and Wolverine.

Hmm, maybe. It seemed that way at first, since I had a few all at 120. My order was

Black Panther 12 covers - Rare
Wolverine (patch) 12 covers - Rare
Cap (11 covers) 11 covers - Gold
Wolverine (xforce) 7 covers - Legendary

I thought cap was after wolverine due to his rarity, but cover count also makes sense.

Malcrof

jojeda654 wrote:

Malcrof wrote:

Damage has to have something to do with it... my 154 Thor is sorted before my 154 Doom.

Not when I view it from my Android device. Are you on Steam?

I just looked and it appears exactly as your screenshot says. They switched when i brought doom to 1 iso short of leveling him. Was trigger happy with some iso, so was going to bring him and thor to 166 (2 man rainbow team), but decided against it at the last minute and brought a mess of others to 140.

Wonder if the amount needed to level had anything to do with them switching spots

Unknown

Malcrof wrote:

I just looked and it appears exactly as your screenshot says. They switched when i brought doom to 1 iso short of leveling him. Was trigger happy with some iso, so was going to bring him and thor to 166 (2 man rainbow team), but decided against it at the last minute and brought a mess of others to 140.

Wonder if the amount needed to level had anything to do with them switching spots

Neat, so hopefully for those of us who purposefully keep heroes underlevelled, we can sort them by putting varying amount of iso into them before their next level. Thanks for the research! Am going to try this later tonight.

--edit. This did not pan out.

san

LEVEL
COVERS
RARITY (NUMBER OF STARS)
ALPHABETICALLY

So, a level 166 Luke Cage with 13 covers would go before a level 166 Kingpin with less covers than that...

If all things are equal, than alphabet...

GrumpySmurf1002

DFiPL wrote:

but the aforementioned Punisher and Panther both have soft caps of 102, and are both AT 102.

When they made the Iso shift, everyone was given next level-1 Iso. Is Punisher sitting at 102 + 458ISO and Panther not?